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Bert Robbins November 7th 05 12:29 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
DSK you are a pompus ass.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
At this point, you've made it quite obvious that you are a clueless feeb
who is never going to get a clue, no matter how patiently it is explained
to you. But for the benefit of others, I'm going to go just a bit further
here.


A boat is NOT a car.


Bill McKee wrote:
But passing is passing.


No, it is not. If you would drive a boat at 60 mph just a few feet from
another boat... or any object in the water... then you should be
physically restrained from operating a boat since you are a deadly hazard
to yourself and others.

Are cars affected by wakes? Currents? Leeway? Do boats have brakes?

Suppose you "pass" another boat, just as you wuould in a car, at the same
moment a wake strikes that other boat and causes it to slew 20 degrees
momentarily? Or just when your own boat meets a wake?

If you overtake another vessel in such a way that you cannot avoid that
vessel if his boat turns, or rolls, or side-slips, or has some minor
equipment failure, the *you* have acted dangerously and incompetently.

DSK





Scotty November 7th 05 01:53 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
"Bill McKee" wrote
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and

same
direction traffic.


Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


But passing is passing.



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV




Bill McKee November 7th 05 09:55 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
"Bill McKee" wrote
I guess you never pass on a 2 lane road. Both oncoming and

same
direction traffic.

Hey Bill.
Here it is for you ins very simple terms

A boat is NOT a car.

DSK


But passing is passing.



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



Bill McKee November 7th 05 09:58 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
At this point, you've made it quite obvious that you are a clueless feeb
who is never going to get a clue, no matter how patiently it is explained
to you. But for the benefit of others, I'm going to go just a bit further
here.


A boat is NOT a car.


Bill McKee wrote:
But passing is passing.


No, it is not. If you would drive a boat at 60 mph just a few feet from
another boat... or any object in the water... then you should be
physically restrained from operating a boat since you are a deadly hazard
to yourself and others.

Are cars affected by wakes? Currents? Leeway? Do boats have brakes?

Suppose you "pass" another boat, just as you wuould in a car, at the same
moment a wake strikes that other boat and causes it to slew 20 degrees
momentarily? Or just when your own boat meets a wake?

If you overtake another vessel in such a way that you cannot avoid that
vessel if his boat turns, or rolls, or side-slips, or has some minor
equipment failure, the *you* have acted dangerously and incompetently.

DSK



You have minor or major equipment failure, you are responsible for the
damage. You should maintain your boat better. If you are lucky, you only
run into rocks or the bank, not into a swimming area. And you are supposed
to look before you turn. Being an sailboater, does not relieve you for
responsibility.



Scotty November 8th 05 01:46 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Bill McKee" wrote
A boat is a car..



Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the

lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the

same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever

direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



So it was a Hobie Cat you were bearing down on at 25MPH.

Were you trying to get revenge because of this;
http://www.thebeachcats.com/OnTheWir...Repellent.html

SBV



Bill McKee November 8th 05 07:45 AM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote
A boat is a car..


Where Bill boats they have yellow lines painted on the water.
And traffic lights at the intersections.

I really believe he has turn signals on his boat.

SBV


Actually some of the lakes in the USA have buoys defining the

lanes of
travel, and all boats have to go in the same direction on the

same side of
the buoys. And I guess a Hoby Cat can turn which ever

direction he wants at
any time he wants, without penalty of he hits another boat?



So it was a Hobie Cat you were bearing down on at 25MPH.

Were you trying to get revenge because of this;
http://www.thebeachcats.com/OnTheWir...Repellent.html

SBV



No, it was a 25' sailboat under power. A powerboat. They then raised
sails, while motor is still running and made a 90 degree turn in front of
me. Still a powerboat. And I guess DSK would argue that it is a sailboat
at all times.



Don White November 8th 05 02:57 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
Bill McKee wrote:



No, it was a 25' sailboat under power. A powerboat. They then raised
sails, while motor is still running and made a 90 degree turn in front of
me. Still a powerboat. And I guess DSK would argue that it is a sailboat
at all times.


How long are you gonna beat this dead horse? You should have raised
the sailboat on VHF...bet you could have talked him to death.

Bill McKee November 8th 05 07:49 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:



No, it was a 25' sailboat under power. A powerboat. They then raised
sails, while motor is still running and made a 90 degree turn in front of
me. Still a powerboat. And I guess DSK would argue that it is a
sailboat at all times.


How long are you gonna beat this dead horse? You should have raised the
sailboat on VHF...bet you could have talked him to death.


Seems as if you and yours are beating it to death. If there was time to
raise him on the VHF, we would have been a lot further apart when he turned.



Alex November 8th 05 08:29 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
Is there any chance of declaring a cease-fire on this thread, or at least
consigning it to newsgroups other than rec.boats.building?

It has had nothing to do with boat-building for the last 100 or so
acrimonious, ad-hominem entries.

Please allow us to get back to our usual squabbles over wood versus
fiberglass. (g)

Seems as if you and yours are beating it to death.




Capt. JG November 8th 05 09:22 PM

Jet Ski overheating problem
 
"Alex" wrote in message
. net...
Is there any chance of declaring a cease-fire on this thread, or at least
consigning it to newsgroups other than rec.boats.building?

It has had nothing to do with boat-building for the last 100 or so
acrimonious, ad-hominem entries.

Please allow us to get back to our usual squabbles over wood versus
fiberglass. (g)

Seems as if you and yours are beating it to death.



Ah, but you should have interjected something about the potential difference
between the damage sustained on a fiberglass vs. wooden vessel!

Would the fiberglass better absorb the blow? g

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





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