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Glenn Ashmore September 22nd 03 03:53 PM

WORMS!!!
 
It looks like it is fairly broad spread. I have been getting up to
100/hour sense Saturday. I have been forced to activate earthlink's
rather heavy handed spam blocker so anyone contacting me be forwarned
that you will receive a return message asking you to type a code
displayed as a graphic so the robots can't see it. Then you can get
through.

Skip Gundlach wrote:
Howdy...

You'll note that my 'mailto' and reply addresses are a uga address. That's
a forwarding from my first account, which people going back into the early
80s have, so I've kept it alive as a destination, and as a means of knowing
when a usenet communication is coming (via the account to which it's
posted). However...

Any of you desiring to communicate with me off-list should do so at (my
name, all one word) @earthlink.net. That's because...

One or more of the newsgroups in which I participate has one or more who
have been infected with the current MS worm, and it's overloading my mailbox
with 150k messages at the rate of a couple hundred an hour.

So, I've blocked the engr.uga address, which will bounce all mail coming to
me through that address...

Yes, I'm protected, and no, it didn't come from me (or it wouldn't be going
to uga, as all my mail goes through either the mindspring or earthlink
servers). I do daily virus definition and other updates, and dump the
infected file automatically, so it never even gets opened in my local
computer - but it's overwhelmed my ISP server, and I'm perpetually over
quota!

We'll return you to your normal programming shortly :{))

L8R

Skip




--
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I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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Rosalie B. September 22nd 03 06:34 PM

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x-no-archive:yes Glenn Ashmore wrote:

It looks like it is fairly broad spread. I have been getting up to
100/hour sense Saturday. I have been forced to activate earthlink's
rather heavy handed spam blocker so anyone contacting me be forwarned
that you will receive a return message asking you to type a code
displayed as a graphic so the robots can't see it. Then you can get
through.

That doesn't help me because the blasted blocker just fills my mailbox
up with spam and won't empty for 14 days.

How do you get it to work like that?

grandma Rosalie

Glenn Ashmore September 22nd 03 07:02 PM

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Rosalie B. wrote:
x-no-archive:yes Glenn Ashmore wrote:


It looks like it is fairly broad spread. I have been getting up to
100/hour sense Saturday. I have been forced to activate earthlink's
rather heavy handed spam blocker so anyone contacting me be forwarned
that you will receive a return message asking you to type a code
displayed as a graphic so the robots can't see it. Then you can get
through.


That doesn't help me because the blasted blocker just fills my mailbox
up with spam and won't empty for 14 days.

How do you get it to work like that?


I check webmain every hour or so and add people I know as I find them.
A real PITA but better than nothing. Hopefully the ISPs will wake up
some day this week and realize what is happening.
--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


thunder September 22nd 03 09:38 PM

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:02:27 -0400, Glenn Ashmore wrote:

I check webmain every hour or so and add people I know as I find them.
A real PITA but better than nothing. Hopefully the ISPs will wake up
some day this week and realize what is happening.


I don't know if this will be a help to you, but I'm using Mailfilter to
delete unwanted trash before downloading. It's a *nix program, but
reportedly works with Windows, although I can't say how easily. It saved
me. My poor dial-up was barely keeping up with the onslaught.

http://mailfilter.sourceforge.net/



Stephen Baker September 22nd 03 10:08 PM

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Some days (not many!) I am glad that I use AOHell.
Haven't seen this particular worm yet.

;-))

Steve

Marc Auslander September 22nd 03 10:53 PM

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I suspect newgroup posters are seeing the worst of it. The worm knows
how to attach to NNTP servers and search for email addresses. I've
learned my lesson, as you can see from my email address above.
--

James Balsley September 22nd 03 11:10 PM

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how does one change the reply e-mail address?
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
...
It looks like it is fairly broad spread. I have been getting up to
100/hour sense Saturday. I have been forced to activate earthlink's
rather heavy handed spam blocker so anyone contacting me be forwarned
that you will receive a return message asking you to type a code
displayed as a graphic so the robots can't see it. Then you can get
through.

Skip Gundlach wrote:
Howdy...

You'll note that my 'mailto' and reply addresses are a uga address.

That's
a forwarding from my first account, which people going back into the

early
80s have, so I've kept it alive as a destination, and as a means of

knowing
when a usenet communication is coming (via the account to which it's
posted). However...

Any of you desiring to communicate with me off-list should do so at (my
name, all one word) @earthlink.net. That's because...

One or more of the newsgroups in which I participate has one or more who
have been infected with the current MS worm, and it's overloading my

mailbox
with 150k messages at the rate of a couple hundred an hour.

So, I've blocked the engr.uga address, which will bounce all mail coming

to
me through that address...

Yes, I'm protected, and no, it didn't come from me (or it wouldn't be

going
to uga, as all my mail goes through either the mindspring or earthlink
servers). I do daily virus definition and other updates, and dump the
infected file automatically, so it never even gets opened in my local
computer - but it's overwhelmed my ISP server, and I'm perpetually over
quota!

We'll return you to your normal programming shortly :{))

L8R

Skip




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Gilberto Karalus September 23rd 03 12:53 AM

WORMS!!!
 
I knew it was a virus but my Norton didn't detect it. I copy the file to a
test computer and the Norton there didn't detected it neither.( Corporate
edition version 8 UP TO DATE IN THE DEFINITIONS)
At the beginning I didn't notice what it was doing, until the second reboot
when the norton crashed, for the next days I received the mail errors.
I cleaned the machine following some instructions before doing the Symantec
fix and the fix didn't deleted all the virus files and scanned the computer
again and the norton didn't detected it ( I knew there was a file with the
virus) Used the "Panda antivirus" online and it found the file and deleted
it. Then installed ZoneAlarm and that program renames the virus file before
getting in to my inbox.



thunder wrote:

On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 14:02:27 -0400, Glenn Ashmore wrote:

I check webmain every hour or so and add people I know as I find them.
A real PITA but better than nothing. Hopefully the ISPs will wake up
some day this week and realize what is happening.


I don't know if this will be a help to you, but I'm using Mailfilter to
delete unwanted trash before downloading. It's a *nix program, but
reportedly works with Windows, although I can't say how easily. It saved
me. My poor dial-up was barely keeping up with the onslaught.

http://mailfilter.sourceforge.net/



Marc Auslander September 23rd 03 02:40 AM

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It depends on your newsreader. I use emacs gnus, and have added to my
..gnus.el file:

(defadvice gnus-post-news (before gnus-user-mail-address activate)
"NOSPAM return address"
(setq user-mail-address "))

--

thunder September 23rd 03 12:38 PM

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 21:53:04 +0000, Marc Auslander wrote:

I suspect newgroup posters are seeing the worst of it. The worm knows
how to attach to NNTP servers and search for email addresses. I've
learned my lesson, as you can see from my email address above.


Me too. Spam was never a real bother, as I could filter it after it was
downloaded, but this, 200-300 per day at 150K per . . . was quite the PITA.

Vito September 23rd 03 06:47 PM

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:

..... Hopefully the ISPs will wake up
some day this week and realize what is happening.
--


I advocate a 3¢ tax on every email sent, with 2¢ to the ISP for
collecting it and the rest to improve sailboat anchorages. It wouldn't
cost any of us enough to matter but it'd put the million spam/day
companies out of business fast.

P.C. Ford September 23rd 03 08:09 PM

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 13:47:57 -0400, Vito wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:

..... Hopefully the ISPs will wake up
some day this week and realize what is happening.
--


I advocate a 3¢ tax on every email sent, with 2¢ to the ISP for
collecting it and the rest to improve sailboat anchorages. It wouldn't
cost any of us enough to matter but it'd put the million spam/day
companies out of business fast.


Good idea. Except I would make the proceeds to subsidize homely
semi-retired boatwrights.

The thing I did not understand is where the money comes from for the
spammers. In other words, do people actually bite on spam?

A possible answer was provided using the illustration of the mortgage
or insurance spam you have probably received. The spammer sends out a
million spams a day---a tiny, tiny percentage reply, thus confirming
they want more information on insurances or mortgage rates. These hot
leads are then sold to insurance or mortgage companies for $20 a
piece.

Several of these a day and it's a living. Never mind that you had to
pollute the 'net with a million unanswered spams. That's someone
else's problem.

I've been around for a while; long enough to have seen the original
Cantor and Spiegel "green card lottery" newsgroup spam. People used to
say just ignore them; you can't any more. It takes work to wade
through them. Unfortunately, I don't think it will slow down until
there are laws in place to send these jerks up the river for 30 years.

And why not? Someone that steals a car can go to jail for a
significant time. Someone that releases viruses is causing thousands,
millions of times more damage.

Just because these guys are typically young middle class white boys
with bad haircuts should not exempt them from paying a price.


Old Nick September 23rd 03 11:35 PM

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On Mon, 22 Sep 2003 22:10:14 GMT, "James Balsley"
wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:

how does one change the reply e-mail address?


In OE6, which you appear to use, edit the account.
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William R. Watt September 24th 03 12:24 AM

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I assumed from the title this thread was about wood worms in boats so I
haven't been reading it.

People here at the FreeNet community network filtre their mail.
They've found that rejecting messages over 600 lines kept all the
latest worm mail from getting into their mailboxes.

My personal filtering strategy is to specify the mail I want to admit
instead of trying to specify all the mail I want to exclude. Much simpler.
I wrote up the strategy for my webpage. Its in file
www.ncf.ca/~ag384/elmSpamFiltre.txt. "ELM' is an old UNIX mail program
which has a built in filtre. There are lots of newer mail programs and mail
filtre programs but you don't really need them. All you need is a superior
strategy and no mail program can give you that. They're all just software
tools which allow you to implement your own filtering strategy.

Also note the warning in my signature file below.

Happy mail filtering.

I prefer to spend my time thinking about boatbuilding instead fo deleting
spam. Currently playing with the design of a 15 ft solo cruiser.
One of those "try to fit it all into a small space and budget" boats.
This one's bigger than a one sheeter. Expanding my horizons. :)

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P.C. Ford September 25th 03 05:20 AM

WORMS!!!
 
On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 09:16:02 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:

On 24 Sep 2003 19:17:18 -0400, Dave Cannell
wrote something
......and in reply I say!:

Lobby your ISP to provide an email spam stopper.


As I understand it, ISP-side spam/virus filters are a mixed blessing.
They can strain out real mail as well. However, it seems to me that
with this virus, the attachment is probably the same size most of the
time, that and other criteria should make it fairly easy to nuke these
jerks work.

I think the best thing to do is just string 'em up.


Old Nick September 25th 03 08:53 AM

WORMS!!!
 
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:20:53 -0700, P.C. Ford
wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:

I tried mine for a while, dumping to a separate folder. After a few
weeks of getting no false dumpings, I simply delete from server. I
figure if anything important gets dumped, like lost letters in the
mail, it can be sorted, and in any case, the sender may learn to alter
their methods.

As I understand it, ISP-side spam/virus filters are a mixed blessing.
They can strain out real mail as well. However, it seems to me that
with this virus, the attachment is probably the same size most of the
time, that and other criteria should make it fairly easy to nuke these
jerks work.

I think the best thing to do is just string 'em up.


By WOT?!! G
************************************************** ****************************************
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
The rest sit around and make snide comments.

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Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
!!
")
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William R. Watt September 26th 03 01:55 AM

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Old Nick ) writes:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:20:53 -0700, P.C. Ford
wrote something
......and in reply I say!:

I tried mine for a while, dumping to a separate folder. After a few
weeks of getting no false dumpings, I simply delete from server. I


that can clog up the server. its a problem here at the FreeNet. better to
delete when filtered out instead of waiting.
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Old Nick September 26th 03 11:18 AM

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On 26 Sep 2003 00:55:11 GMT, (William R.
Watt) wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:

Sorry. Do you mean deleting from Server, or dumping to a separate
folder?

I was not about to start deleting until I had tested the spam
selection software a little.

I don't have the option to delete before it gets to the ISP's server,
or before my account actually accesses it. I believe they are actually
doing a lot of that already, but that's beyond my control. They did
say there were severe legal complications with removing emails, spam
or not, without action/permission by the recipient, and I can
understand that.

I tried mine for a while, dumping to a separate folder. After a few
weeks of getting no false dumpings, I simply delete from server. I


that can clog up the server. its a problem here at the FreeNet. better to
delete when filtered out instead of waiting.


************************************************** ****************************************
Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
The rest sit around and make snide comments.

Nick White --- HEAD:Hertz Music
Please remove ns from my header address to reply via email
!!
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_/ )
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