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Chris July 13th 05 02:26 AM

Oil Change Pump
 

I am trying to find an oil change pump; after
a total disaster with one from an auto parts
store (it just didn't pump, only sucked in air
through the numerous cheap hose adapters), I am
looking for recommendations for a brand that
will actually work.

Does any one have experience with either of the
following?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~oil+change+pump-p8204138

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=7295

A manual one would be fine as well.

Thanks a lot,

Chris


Jim Richardson July 13th 05 10:25 AM

On 12 Jul 2005 18:26:41 -0700,
Chris wrote:

I am trying to find an oil change pump; after
a total disaster with one from an auto parts
store (it just didn't pump, only sucked in air
through the numerous cheap hose adapters), I am
looking for recommendations for a brand that
will actually work.

Does any one have experience with either of the
following?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~oil+change+pump-p8204138

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=7295

A manual one would be fine as well.

Thanks a lot,

Chris



I have one of the big translucent plastic cylinder vacuum ones, it works
well, and is simple enough to have little to go wrong.

--
Jim Richardson http://www.eskimo.com/~warlock
You live and learn. Or you don't live long.
-- Lazarus Long

Dave W July 13th 05 01:42 PM

After trying all sorts of combinations, I finally bought a vacuum chamber
bottle from WEST and have been very satisfied with its performance. The
mess factor is greatly reduced.



Gordon Wedman July 13th 05 09:20 PM


"Chris" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am trying to find an oil change pump; after
a total disaster with one from an auto parts
store (it just didn't pump, only sucked in air
through the numerous cheap hose adapters), I am
looking for recommendations for a brand that
will actually work.

Does any one have experience with either of the
following?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~oil+change+pump-p8204138

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=7295

A manual one would be fine as well.

Thanks a lot,

Chris



I have one of the vacuum type units, a circular metal one that I bought at
West Marine. It works quite well and I appreciate the fact that I can get
it working and go away to do other things while is does its work. Those
drill pumps need some babysitting.



MikeT July 13th 05 11:25 PM

I have been using the drill motor pump hooked to my Dewalt cordless.

I have tried the others out there, and this by far works best, only about
$10 for the pump, $150 for the Dewalt, but you probably have a drill
already.

Mike


"Chris" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am trying to find an oil change pump; after
a total disaster with one from an auto parts
store (it just didn't pump, only sucked in air
through the numerous cheap hose adapters), I am
looking for recommendations for a brand that
will actually work.

Does any one have experience with either of the
following?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~oil+change+pump-p8204138

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=7295

A manual one would be fine as well.

Thanks a lot,

Chris




Keith July 14th 05 12:08 PM

IMHO, the only pump worth a flip is the Jabsco 12V pump mounted on a 3
gallon plastic bucket. I had to change it out for a five gallon pickle
bucket since my diesel holds so much oil, but I've had this thing for
years and it works perfectly, every time, with little effort.


Gogarty July 14th 05 02:27 PM

In article .com,
says...


IMHO, the only pump worth a flip is the Jabsco 12V pump mounted on a 3
gallon plastic bucket. I had to change it out for a five gallon pickle
bucket since my diesel holds so much oil, but I've had this thing for
years and it works perfectly, every time, with little effort.

Agreed. After painting the boat with diesel crankcase oil one time too
many when the tubing popped off the hand pump I bought the motor driven
integral container unit. Had to replace the pump rotor this year, which
was a bit of a hassle (nobody had it in stock) but it makes changing the
oil a clean snap.


[email protected] July 14th 05 04:30 PM

You'll get all manner of gadget suggestions, maybe more junk to
unstow, stow & screw with. But why not fit a permanent manual pump &
spout as has been used for decades? You could even make one fairly
easily of pipe & fittings if you can't locate one, it only has to suck
well to the height of the bucket.


Boots July 19th 05 01:19 AM

Mercury Marine makes a hand operated one that works good
wrote in message
ups.com...
You'll get all manner of gadget suggestions, maybe more
junk to
unstow, stow & screw with. But why not fit a permanent
manual pump &
spout as has been used for decades? You could even make one
fairly
easily of pipe & fittings if you can't locate one, it only
has to suck
well to the height of the bucket.



Gabriel Latrémouille September 28th 05 05:12 PM

Stearns 12 Volt Quick Change Oil Pump is crap had one and hated it tubes
etc. leaked and it didn't pump. I now use a manual.
GL

"Chris" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am trying to find an oil change pump; after
a total disaster with one from an auto parts
store (it just didn't pump, only sucked in air
through the numerous cheap hose adapters), I am
looking for recommendations for a brand that
will actually work.

Does any one have experience with either of the
following?

http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-~oil+change+pump-p8204138

http://www.bartswatersports.com/catalog.asp?P=7295

A manual one would be fine as well.

Thanks a lot,

Chris




Roger Long September 28th 05 10:37 PM

If you have sufficient bilge below your engine, is there any reason
you can't use an outboard fuel line squeeze bulb in a hose to siphon
the oil out?

--

Roger Long





Terry Spragg September 29th 05 12:45 PM

Roger Long wrote:
If you have sufficient bilge below your engine, is there any reason
you can't use an outboard fuel line squeeze bulb in a hose to siphon
the oil out?


Strictly speaking, a syphon uses gravity to pull a liquid to a lower
level. Your idea would use the primer fuel bulb pump to move the
oil. The valves in the bulb slow down any syphon passing through it,
some worse than others. Molasses and thick oil both move very slowly
unless urged well.

The oil is thinner when hot, but likely would not move quickly
enough to satisfy you. You would get a cramp in your hand, I fear,
before you moved much oil That way, as the bulb does not suck very well.

I use a small barrel type pump to suck the oil out the filler neck,
it's slow enough, and messy, but works. A permanently plumbed hard
line from the oil pan drain and a good small pump, or a downhill
drain, if there is depth enough to your bilge, will do the job
conveniently, especially if you warm the engine oil before draining.

There is a type of pump that establishes a partial vacuum in a
collector vessel, specially designed for oil changes that I hear is
more satisfactory. You may find it at auto supply houses, if you look.

Terry K


Roger Long September 29th 05 12:49 PM

Thanks, I think this will work in my case. I have a huge bilge so can
get a good level differential and a container large enough to let it
run all night. I already have this rig after having to drain our
dishwasher until I could get it repaired and I really hate to spend
money.

--

Roger Long





Chris October 4th 05 05:59 AM

Oil Change Pump
 

I got the Stearns before you had replied; It worked well for me.
It does need to be primed with a bit of oil, but once it pumps
oil, it does the job nicely.

Chris


rhys October 11th 05 03:00 AM

Oil Change Pump
 
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 08:45:15 -0300, Terry Spragg
wrote:

I use a small barrel type pump to suck the oil out the filler neck,
it's slow enough, and messy, but works. A permanently plumbed hard
line from the oil pan drain and a good small pump, or a downhill
drain, if there is depth enough to your bilge, will do the job
conveniently, especially if you warm the engine oil before draining.


I installed this earlier this summer as per the installation I saw on
a friend's Atomic 4. As I was returning a rebuilt A4 into the boat, it
was a simple request to the rebuild shop to have them tap a 3/8" hole
into the lowest part of the pan. A couple of plumbing bits later and a
brass cylinder handpump gives me "white glove", five minute or so oil
changes conducted inside the engine compartment, and it was cheaper
than those vacuum style oil movers. They work well, but where the hell
are you supposed to keep them?

R.

Meye5 October 13th 05 11:14 PM

Oil Change Pump
 
your mouth and a rubber hose , neither of which will break.



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