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John Cassara March 4th 05 04:50 PM

Gibco Flex-Mold
 
I am looking for a source and information on Gibco Flex-Mold sheets. They
are flexible non-skid pattern molds for deck repair. Has anyone used this or
know of an online source? My searches only turn up anecdotal reference.

John



Jim Conlin March 4th 05 08:49 PM

See http://www.epoxyworks.com/22/pdf/Ew22_Nonskid.pdf
There's contact info there.


"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
I am looking for a source and information on Gibco Flex-Mold sheets. They
are flexible non-skid pattern molds for deck repair. Has anyone used this or
know of an online source? My searches only turn up anecdotal reference.

John



John Cassara March 5th 05 12:01 AM

Thank-you for the contact info. I had sent an e-mail earlier and received a response. They are sending me information.

Has anyone used this product? Comments good or bad?

John
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message ...
See http://www.epoxyworks.com/22/pdf/Ew22_Nonskid.pdf
There's contact info there.


"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
I am looking for a source and information on Gibco Flex-Mold sheets. They
are flexible non-skid pattern molds for deck repair. Has anyone used this or
know of an online source? My searches only turn up anecdotal reference.

John



Garland Gray II March 5th 05 03:56 AM

I've not used it, but I recently received some samples, and was`impressed.
They have molds to repair a number of different patterns, and also the same nonskid material to be used on a plug mold ( that is, a mirror image of the other)
"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
Thank-you for the contact info. I had sent an e-mail earlier and received a response. They are sending me information.

Has anyone used this product? Comments good or bad?

John
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message ...
See http://www.epoxyworks.com/22/pdf/Ew22_Nonskid.pdf
There's contact info there.


"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
I am looking for a source and information on Gibco Flex-Mold sheets. They
are flexible non-skid pattern molds for deck repair. Has anyone used this or
know of an online source? My searches only turn up anecdotal reference.

John




Glenn Ashmore March 5th 05 05:29 AM

I got a sheet of a diamond pattern last year and experimented with it a little to make sure I was not going to mess up my deck. There is a mixture of skill and art required. It comes with a mold release already applied that they say is good for a couple of uses but a spray of PVA before the second use would be a good idea. You need to make absolutely sure there are no bubbles in your resin/gelcoat mix. Tape off the area carefully and burnish the tape with the back of a spoon or something. I taped the sheet to the deck at one end to keep it from moving and laid out a generous blob of resin. Slowly rolled the Flex-mold over the area pushing the resin ahead and working from the center out used a J-roller to force the excess resin out. You get a lot of goop squeezing out the side so you need to mask off a good distance.

My first try didn't come out so good because I was a bit to energetic in the mixing. The bubbles left little pock marks. The second try was better but the female ptterns it would really work better to match up a repair to a damaged area in a production boat. Gibco makes patterns for many makes. It would also be good in a male pattern applied to a plug to make a mold in a production yard. Considering the cost and the risk of getting a less than perfect result, in the end am thinking more about using a ground up rubber additive in the paint.

Also, philosophically, Rutu is a hand built yacht. Not a mass produced boat. No reason to go to the expense and extra labor to try and make it look like it was squirted out of a mold and cut off with a hot wire. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
Thank-you for the contact info. I had sent an e-mail earlier and received a response. They are sending me information.

Has anyone used this product? Comments good or bad?

Paul Oman March 5th 05 10:10 PM

A few years back I observed a 'boat repair pro' re-do the
non skid on the deck of a sailboat using epoxy and nylon
window screen. At some critical point in the cure, he pulled
off the screen fabric and had a professional looking anti
slip pattern.

It would certainly be great if someone here could 'test'
this and report back.

paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers




Glenn Ashmore wrote:

I got a sheet of a diamond pattern last year and
experimented with it a little to make sure I was not going
to mess up my deck. There is a mixture of skill and art
required. It comes with a mold release already applied
that they say is good for a couple of uses but a spray of
PVA before the second use would be a good idea. You need
to make absolutely sure there are no bubbles in your
resin/gelcoat mix. Tape off the area carefully and
burnish the tape with the back of a spoon or something. I
taped the sheet to the deck at one end to keep it from
moving and laid out a generous blob of resin. Slowly
rolled the Flex-mold over the area pushing the resin ahead
and working from the center out used a J-roller to force
the excess resin out. You get a lot of goop squeezing out
the side so you need to mask off a good distance. My first
try didn't come out so good because I was a bit to
energetic in the mixing. The bubbles left little pock
marks. The second try was better but the female ptterns
it would really work better to match up a repair to a
damaged area in a production boat. Gibco makes patterns
for many makes. It would also be good in a male pattern
applied to a plug to make a mold in a production yard.
Considering the cost and the risk of getting a less than
perfect result, in the end am thinking more about using a
ground up rubber additive in the paint. Also,
philosophically, Rutu is a hand built yacht. Not a mass
produced boat. No reason to go to the expense and extra
labor to try and make it look like it was squirted out of
a mold and cut off with a hot wire. :-)
--
Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in
strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at:
http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division:
http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

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the contact info. I had sent an e-mail earlier
and received a response. They are sending me
information. Has anyone used this product?
Comments good or bad?





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Garland Gray II March 6th 05 12:32 AM

Glenn,
I have just finished building and painting the hard top part of my bimini.
I painted it w/ Interlux Perfection 2 part polyurethane with Intergrip nonskid mixed in. It is supposed to be effective but not as aggresive as grit , and so far it seems to be so. Also supposed to be easier to keep clean
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:CsbWd.49751$SF.26724@lakeread08...
I got a sheet of a diamond pattern last year and experimented with it a little to make sure I was not going to mess up my deck. There is a mixture of skill and art required. It comes with a mold release already applied that they say is good for a couple of uses but a spray of PVA before the second use would be a good idea. You need to make absolutely sure there are no bubbles in your resin/gelcoat mix. Tape off the area carefully and burnish the tape with the back of a spoon or something. I taped the sheet to the deck at one end to keep it from moving and laid out a generous blob of resin. Slowly rolled the Flex-mold over the area pushing the resin ahead and working from the center out used a J-roller to force the excess resin out. You get a lot of goop squeezing out the side so you need to mask off a good distance.

My first try didn't come out so good because I was a bit to energetic in the mixing. The bubbles left little pock marks. The second try was better but the female ptterns it would really work better to match up a repair to a damaged area in a production boat. Gibco makes patterns for many makes. It would also be good in a male pattern applied to a plug to make a mold in a production yard. Considering the cost and the risk of getting a less than perfect result, in the end am thinking more about using a ground up rubber additive in the paint.

Also, philosophically, Rutu is a hand built yacht. Not a mass produced boat. No reason to go to the expense and extra labor to try and make it look like it was squirted out of a mold and cut off with a hot wire. :-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"John Cassara" wrote in message ...
Thank-you for the contact info. I had sent an e-mail earlier and received a response. They are sending me information.

Has anyone used this product? Comments good or bad?


Glenn Ashmore March 6th 05 02:32 AM



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Paul Oman" wrote in message
...
A few years back I observed a 'boat repair pro' re-do the
non skid on the deck of a sailboat using epoxy and nylon
window screen. At some critical point in the cure, he pulled
off the screen fabric and had a professional looking anti
slip pattern.

It would certainly be great if someone here could 'test'
this and report back.


It would worh great for repairs in gelcoat where there is some of the
original pattern remaining. Just overlap the Flex-mold so that it matches
up the pattern and it is almost self aligning. You just have to make sure
to roll out all the excess so that you don't get any bulges.

BTW, on the second use, be sure to use a spray of PVA mold release,
especially when using epoxy. I didn't and the mold came off in little
pieces. :-(

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Glenn Ashmore March 6th 05 02:36 AM

Keeping the non-skid clean is one thing I am worried about. Ths ground rubber additive does not look like it will be condusive to releasing ground in pipe tobacco ashes and fish guts.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


John Cassara March 12th 05 03:45 AM

Received a packet today from Gibco. They sent a collection of 1" x 2"
samples of the non-skid patterns they offer. I now need to match up the one
most like my hull and figure out how much I need to get a price. It does
look promising.

John

"John Cassara" wrote in message
...
I am looking for a source and information on Gibco Flex-Mold sheets. They
are flexible non-skid pattern molds for deck repair. Has anyone used this
or know of an online source? My searches only turn up anecdotal reference.

John





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