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Any comments on West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma?
Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good?
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My nephew is a student of theirs. He started the course and changed jobs.
He now works in the boating industry. His employer has agreed to pay the tuition for him to complete the course, so that must say something about how the industry views the course. If you intend to get into the industry, it is important, in my opinion, to evaluate just how many boat designers are actually needed. Many manufacturers hire designers that have an established reputation, on a project by project basis so they don't have to carry an expensive employee on their payrolls yet only use them when there is a major design change or a new project. If the education is for your personal interest, then get all of it you can afford, they are not cheap. If you have an employer in mind, get their opinion of the school, and perhaps if they want to partially fund your education. Don Dando "Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? |
Thanks for your comments. I think I'll have to evaluate before any decision
is made. "Don Dando" wrote in message om... My nephew is a student of theirs. He started the course and changed jobs. He now works in the boating industry. His employer has agreed to pay the tuition for him to complete the course, so that must say something about how the industry views the course. If you intend to get into the industry, it is important, in my opinion, to evaluate just how many boat designers are actually needed. Many manufacturers hire designers that have an established reputation, on a project by project basis so they don't have to carry an expensive employee on their payrolls yet only use them when there is a major design change or a new project. If the education is for your personal interest, then get all of it you can afford, they are not cheap. If you have an employer in mind, get their opinion of the school, and perhaps if they want to partially fund your education. Don Dando "Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? |
Westlawn is pretty widely respected but don't expect to become a great naval
architect over night. You can count on several years of drudge work after you finish. Many Westlawn graduates have worked for larger design firms and eventually gone off to make names for themselves. Ted Brewer, Dudley Dix, Bruce King, Gary Mull and Dave Gerr among the more promenent. The US Navy Office of Naval Research has hired graduates in the small combat craft division. Every major yacht manufacturer has some design and engineering staff, many of whom are Westlawn grads. In fact Westlawn is probably one of the major sources for their engeneering and design employees. I would speculate that at least half of the recreational boats in production were designed at least in part by Westlawn graduates. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? |
Glenn Ashmore wrote: Westlawn is pretty widely respected but don't expect to become a great naval architect over night. You can count on several years of drudge work after you finish. Many Westlawn graduates have worked for larger design firms and eventually gone off to make names for themselves. Ted Brewer, Dudley Dix, Bruce King, Gary Mull and Dave Gerr among the more promenent. Don't forget Doug Peterson. |
"Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? It's pretty widely respected among boat builders/manufacturers. However if you want to get a job designing yachts, a better way is an engineering degree, either in Mechanical, Aero/Hydrodynamics, or Naval Architecture. Read the "advice for students" here www.farrdesign.com to get a different perspective. (I used to work there) We had people with no formal training (Bruce/Graham), people with limited technical backgrounds (Pat & Mick), people like me with a Mech Eng degree and others with Masters or PHD's in Aerodynamics or Naval Architecture. Recent hirings have all had a technical background. I think the schools with the best reputation for Naval Architecture programs are (in no particular order) MIT, UC Berkley, Memorial University Newfoundland, and Southampton. 20 or 10 years ago I would have said that Westlawn was well regarded but I think that most yacht designers look for an engineering background these days. -- Evan Gatehouse ceilydh **at** 3web **dot** net ---- rewrite my signature to send email |
"Enzo Hung" wrote in news:cs5ojj$r0d1
@imsp212.netvigator.com: Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? Cemetarys are giving diplomas? Oh, wait that was 'Forest' Lawn. ;) -- "Let bygones be bygones...send a concilliatory PRETZEL to the Whitehouse!" "Against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain." - Friedrich von Schiller "Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian |
Right, but actually I am a Mechanical Engineer myself. I'm thinking of
taking that Westlawn Yacht design is because I want to get a better understanding on design and building process for my current job. Do you think it's worth the money to do that??? Since I won't have time to go to school and West Lawn offer correspondence course which I don't have to attend any classes. What do you think??? "Evan Gatehouse / Diane Selkirk" wrote in message ... "Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? It's pretty widely respected among boat builders/manufacturers. However if you want to get a job designing yachts, a better way is an engineering degree, either in Mechanical, Aero/Hydrodynamics, or Naval Architecture. Read the "advice for students" here www.farrdesign.com to get a different perspective. (I used to work there) We had people with no formal training (Bruce/Graham), people with limited technical backgrounds (Pat & Mick), people like me with a Mech Eng degree and others with Masters or PHD's in Aerodynamics or Naval Architecture. Recent hirings have all had a technical background. I think the schools with the best reputation for Naval Architecture programs are (in no particular order) MIT, UC Berkley, Memorial University Newfoundland, and Southampton. 20 or 10 years ago I would have said that Westlawn was well regarded but I think that most yacht designers look for an engineering background these days. -- Evan Gatehouse ceilydh **at** 3web **dot** net ---- rewrite my signature to send email |
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:31:40 -0000, Didereaux
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email "Enzo Hung" wrote in news:cs5ojj$r0d1 : Anyone heard of West Lawn Yacht Design Diploma? Is this school any good? Cemetarys are giving diplomas? Oh, wait that was 'Forest' Lawn. ;) Oh good. I'm not the only one....G |
"Enzo Hung" wrote in message ... Right, but actually I am a Mechanical Engineer myself. I'm thinking of taking that Westlawn Yacht design is because I want to get a better understanding on design and building process for my current job. Do you think it's worth the money to do that??? Since I won't have time to go to school and West Lawn offer correspondence course which I don't have to attend any classes. What do you think??? It's hard to say - I took 6 N.A. courses as part of my M.E. degree. A fair bit was applicable to large ships only. For the money and time I would say Westlawn is overkill for an ME. A bunch of good books would go a long way to gaining you all the understanding you need. Suggestions: - Skene's Elements of Yacht Design (a classic that still contains a lot of useful information - Dave Gerr's propeller book (not the exact title - excellent for prop design) - Principles of Yacht Design - Lars Larsson, Rolf Eliasson ( a sort of modern day update of Skenes) - Understanding Boat Design - Ted Brewer ( a good first text) these would be a good start but there's a lot you can get from a library. -- Evan Gatehouse ceilydh **at** 3web **dot** net ---- rewrite my signature to send email |
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