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BernieSwanson November 25th 04 08:20 PM

Kayak End Pour- rudder mount question
 
I have an old fiberglass tandem kayak that needs a rudder. The top
and bottom were attached with a flat external seam. The top is
somewhat peaked and not flat. I cannot tell it the ends were poured
because of foam flotation that has been installed. The stern has a
small flat surface about 5 inches high by about 1.5 inches and I want
to mount a bracket shaped like this [ to the stern for the pivot pin.
My question is about attaching the bracket. I need suggestions.

If the end is poured, can I drill it out and use machine or wood
screws that will self thread?
Should I use a lead insert like a concrete anchor?

I cannot get at it to use a nut and bolt. and I do not want to drill
exploratory holes if I do not have to.

This link will give you a visual or what I am talking about....

http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/Wslrghtm/jpg26/S26-1.htm

Any other fasteners or suggestions would be appreciated. If you can,
please reply by e-mail also.

YSTay November 25th 04 11:04 PM

How about bolting some s/steel flat bar to the flat external seem ( the
deck/hull joint)? You can then mount (weld) some sort of hinge to the flat
bar. Should be strong enough esp since kayak rudders don't take that much
of a beating unless you go surfing.

Cheers,
Arnold



Matt Langenfeld November 26th 04 03:14 PM

You could do an exploritory "poke" in the flotation foam with a knitting
needle. See how far the needle goes in and that will give you a good
indication if the end has been poured.

Using wood screws would depend a lot on how deep the end pour is. If
it's a fiberglass boat, you could laminate a light duty pintle/gudgeon
set up onto the stern.

Example hardware set:

http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/sto...s/gudgeons.htm

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Regards,

Matt

JEM Watercraft
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/

BernieSwanson wrote:

I have an old fiberglass tandem kayak that needs a rudder. The top
and bottom were attached with a flat external seam. The top is
somewhat peaked and not flat. I cannot tell it the ends were poured
because of foam flotation that has been installed. The stern has a
small flat surface about 5 inches high by about 1.5 inches and I want
to mount a bracket shaped like this [ to the stern for the pivot pin.
My question is about attaching the bracket. I need suggestions.

If the end is poured, can I drill it out and use machine or wood
screws that will self thread?
Should I use a lead insert like a concrete anchor?

I cannot get at it to use a nut and bolt. and I do not want to drill
exploratory holes if I do not have to.

This link will give you a visual or what I am talking about....

http://www.oneoceankayaks.com/Wslrghtm/jpg26/S26-1.htm

Any other fasteners or suggestions would be appreciated. If you can,
please reply by e-mail also.



steen November 28th 04 06:31 PM

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:20:01 UTC,
(BernieSwanson) wrote:

If the end is poured, can I drill it out and use machine or wood
screws that will self thread?


That you don't know if it's end-poured, I'd follow this procedu
http://www.hamberg.dk/blog/arkiv/200...fikation_del_1
+
http://www.hamberg.dk/blog/arkiv/200...fikation_del_2

If there's no pour, then remove the foam and do your own pour.

Regards
--
steen - menzi.dk
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