Mirrors?
 

Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:26:18 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:


Any other ideas?

You've tried mylar, I assume?. Glass mirrors are merely "silvered"
backings on plate glass. I can't believe you couldn't "silverback"
some Lexan or something.

Or maybe even highly polish a piece of metal. Worked for the Romans.

R.

"rhys" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:26:18 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:
You've tried mylar, I assume?. Glass mirrors are merely "silvered"
backings on plate glass. I can't believe you couldn't "silverback"
some Lexan or something.

I have used Mylar mirrors in a rear projection screen but it is metalized on
the front surface and is very delicate. It will not stand up on a boat.
Lexan is softer than acrylic so after a few wipes of the cleaning rag it
will haze over. That is the problem with acrylic mirrors. Unless you are
VERY carefull in cleaning them they become unusable fairly quickly.


Or maybe even highly polish a piece of metal. Worked for the Romans.

R.

Get mirror mastic whereever you buy the mirrors and bed them with that. If
they do break, they won't fall all over the place. Use glass clips as well
to hold them in place while the mastic sets.

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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have
been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in
epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Polished stainless?
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:I4Ecd.32527$cN6.29008@lakeread02...
Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have
been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in
epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Keith" wrote in message ...
Get mirror mastic whereever you buy the mirrors and bed them with that. If
they do break, they won't fall all over the place. Use glass clips as well
to hold them in place while the mastic sets.

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Keith
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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have
been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in
epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com



After a few days of cruising being covered in sunscreen and rinsing in
salt water, its best not to look at oneself anyway.

"Parallax" wrote in message
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After a few days of cruising being covered in sunscreen and rinsing in
salt water, its best not to look at oneself anyway.

True for me but when you have 2 women in the crew mirrors are an essential
piece of equipment. :-)

In a certain naval brig, and in the solitary confinement section thereof,
there exists individual compartments with polished stainless steel mirrors
affixed with tamper-proof bolts to the bulkheads. We shall not discuss how I
know this except to say my liberty weekend was well worth it.

"MMC" wrote in message
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Polished stainless?
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:I4Ecd.32527$cN6.29008@lakeread02...
Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have
been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double
strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in
epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Set a glass mirror in a block of ubiquitous epoxy?

"Mirror, mirror in the head
Who's the fairest maid I'll bed?"



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Set a glass mirror in a block of ubiquitous epoxy?

"Mirror, mirror in the head
Who's the fairest maid I'll bed?"

no sooner had I logged off than I realized there was a better choice of
pronoun more faithful to the original...

"Mirror, mirror in the head
Who's the fairest maid he'll bed?"

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"William R. Watt" wrote in message
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"Mirror, mirror in the head
Who's the fairest maid he'll bed?"

I have to admit a thought similar to that regularly crosses my mind on
lonely nights in the boat shed. Unfortunately if I don't get this thing in
the water soon my prostate may not allow it. :-)

How about an acrlic mirror w/ a 1/8in. plexiglass overlay that can be
replaced when needed?

I know nothing about mirrors other than the obvious (?) But I built my
boat's windshield with 3/16" tempered glass. A local glass co. cut the
pieces from what I understood was regular glass then sent the pieces off to
be tempered. It was not expensive, only adding maybe 50 bucks to the job to
have it tempered. So if you want something stronger than plain old glass,
look into getting some glass tempered then silvered.
I did shop around for this job as some companies e quoted outrageous prices
but I ended up with the job done reasonably.



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Ron White
Boat building web address is
www.concentric.net/~knotreel

That is what I am looking at now. Local glass supplier can order tempered
glass beveled edge mirrors. About $60 each for the size I need.
Considerably higher than $10 for standard double strength mirror but cheap
for peace of mind.

"Ron White" wrote in message
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I know nothing about mirrors other than the obvious (?) But I built my
boat's windshield with 3/16" tempered glass. A local glass co. cut the
pieces from what I understood was regular glass then sent the pieces off
to
be tempered. It was not expensive, only adding maybe 50 bucks to the job
to
have it tempered. So if you want something stronger than plain old glass,
look into getting some glass tempered then silvered.
I did shop around for this job as some companies e quoted outrageous
prices
but I ended up with the job done reasonably.



--
Ron White
Boat building web address is
www.concentric.net/~knotreel

That is what I am looking at now. Local glass supplier can order tempered
glass beveled edge mirrors.

Only curious... There is a translation problem maybe...
Tempered glass means the type of glass that if broken fall down in million
of small pieces?
If is that, is safe?
Isn't better the safety glass used for windshield and shop windows, the type
that have a plastic film between two layer of glass? that one even if broken
remain in a single piece, connected by the plastic film...

Paolo




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I considered safety glass but couldn't find mirrors made with it. Tempered
glass breaks into millions of little pieces but the "death of a thousand
cuts" takes a lot longer than a single good slice from a long sharp shard.
:-)

After consulting with the glass dealer I am going to bed them in mirror
mastic on a 4 mm okoume so if it breaks most of the particles should stay in
place. There will be a lot of tiny chips to be cleaned up but at least they
will not be fatal. Also the beveled edges add a touch of "class" to the ah,
er, ... what's the naudical term for boudoir?. :-)

"Paolo Zini" wrote in message
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That is what I am looking at now. Local glass supplier can order
tempered
glass beveled edge mirrors.

Only curious... There is a translation problem maybe...
Tempered glass means the type of glass that if broken fall down in million
of small pieces?
If is that, is safe?
Isn't better the safety glass used for windshield and shop windows, the
type
that have a plastic film between two layer of glass? that one even if
broken
remain in a single piece, connected by the plastic film...

Paolo




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Imagine the bilge after some of those shards makes it to your bilge pump.

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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I considered safety glass but couldn't find mirrors made with it. Tempered
glass breaks into millions of little pieces but the "death of a thousand
cuts" takes a lot longer than a single good slice from a long sharp shard.
:-)

After consulting with the glass dealer I am going to bed them in mirror
mastic on a 4 mm okoume so if it breaks most of the particles should stay
in
place. There will be a lot of tiny chips to be cleaned up but at least
they
will not be fatal. Also the beveled edges add a touch of "class" to the
ah,
er, ... what's the naudical term for boudoir?. :-)

That's kind of what I was suggesting the other day. If you bed it in mastic,
it won't go anywhere even if it breaks. I think the tempering would be
redundant. The mastic will accomplish the same thing, at a much lower cost,
IMHO.

BTW, I used to work as a glass installer for Binswanger, so I have some
experience with this stuff.

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soup in a deli." - George Louis Costanza
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message

After consulting with the glass dealer I am going to bed them in mirror
mastic on a 4 mm okoume so if it breaks most of the particles should stay
in
place.

what about a hand held vidocam linked to a flat panel display mounted on
the wall? viewers could look at the back of their heads and the soles of
their feet which is a nice feature not found in the usual wall-mounted
mirror. a low power draw portable computer might not consume very muhc
electricity, only drawing power when in use.

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I thought of that but I don't think the inverter could handle the hair
driers and the computer at the same time. :-)


"William R. Watt" wrote in message
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what about a hand held vidocam linked to a flat panel display mounted on
the wall? viewers could look at the back of their heads and the soles of
their feet which is a nice feature not found in the usual wall-mounted
mirror. a low power draw portable computer might not consume very muhc
electricity, only drawing power when in use.

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"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:I4Ecd.32527$cN6.29008@lakeread02...
Anyone have suggestions for mirrors? I need to set mirrors in the head
cabinet doors. Glass is just inherently dangerous on sailboats. I have been
experimenting with acrylic mirrors but they haze up very quickly. Plate
glass mirrors are way to heavy. Now I am thinking about a double strength
glass mirror and backing it with 4 mm meranti. Maybe bedding them in epoxy
or 4200 to hold pieces in place if it gets broken.

Any other ideas?

Self-adhesive plastic film over the front of the mirror,
eg 0% opaque car window film?