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Adam August 18th 04 12:30 PM

Electrical Wires
 
Is any difrent with usage single wires vs 2 or three conductors flat cable
(in both cases marine grade)?
What is advantage and disadvantage - price is not the isue.

Do I really need a set of wires in difrent colors in accordance with ABYC
reccommenadtion, or labbeling is acceptable as well?

Thanks in advance
Adam
S/V SeaGoat



Glenn Ashmore August 18th 04 12:58 PM

I used the duplex wire where ever I could. Not only is it easier to
route but it makes it easy to find associated pairs in a bundle of 10 or
12 pairs. Color coding is absolutely necessary. Not just from an
installation standpoint but for future maintenance. A few years from
now when you need to find the hot wire somewhere in the middle of a run
you will wish they were standard colors. Opening a panel and finding
nothing but black wires can be a nightmare. The cost is the same for
colors and if you are wiring anything larger than a dinghy you will need
several spools in various sizes.

Marine wiring is not cheap but it is the number one maintenance problem
on most boats over 4 or 5 years old. It definitely pays to do it right
the first time.

Adam wrote:
Is any difrent with usage single wires vs 2 or three conductors flat cable
(in both cases marine grade)?
What is advantage and disadvantage - price is not the isue.

Do I really need a set of wires in difrent colors in accordance with ABYC
reccommenadtion, or labbeling is acceptable as well?

Thanks in advance
Adam
S/V SeaGoat



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Adam August 18th 04 01:17 PM

Thanks Glenn;
I have to add small correction. Duplex (threeplex) wires are in already in
different color, white, black, red.
It is not a problem to find which one is hot.
By different color I was thinking about colors like grey, brown, purple
etc - all for hot wire - depend to what device is connected.
Adam
S/V SeaGoat
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:ZvHUc.30677$Jo1.23385@lakeread01...
I used the duplex wire where ever I could. Not only is it easier to
route but it makes it easy to find associated pairs in a bundle of 10 or
12 pairs. Color coding is absolutely necessary. Not just from an
installation standpoint but for future maintenance. A few years from
now when you need to find the hot wire somewhere in the middle of a run
you will wish they were standard colors. Opening a panel and finding
nothing but black wires can be a nightmare. The cost is the same for
colors and if you are wiring anything larger than a dinghy you will need
several spools in various sizes.

Marine wiring is not cheap but it is the number one maintenance problem
on most boats over 4 or 5 years old. It definitely pays to do it right
the first time.

Adam wrote:
Is any difrent with usage single wires vs 2 or three conductors flat

cable
(in both cases marine grade)?
What is advantage and disadvantage - price is not the isue.

Do I really need a set of wires in difrent colors in accordance with

ABYC
reccommenadtion, or labbeling is acceptable as well?

Thanks in advance
Adam
S/V SeaGoat



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




Glenn Ashmore August 18th 04 01:48 PM

I tired to do that where possible. I have 3 wiring harnesses running
fore and aft. They have gotten rather thick and somewherein one of them
is are some pink ones going to the fuel level senders. The real
nightmare is the engine wiring harness. I gave up and let Mastry make
one up for me. It cost about $300 but worked out cheaper than buying
individual spools and terminals. If it were not for the colors it would
take a year to wire up everything.

You could run each wire individually and then lace up the bundle but 3
or 4 years from now when you have to replace the alternator and are
looking at 3 black wires that the lables have come off of you will wish
you they were different colors.

Adam wrote:

Thanks Glenn;
I have to add small correction. Duplex (threeplex) wires are in already in
different color, white, black, red.
It is not a problem to find which one is hot.
By different color I was thinking about colors like grey, brown, purple
etc - all for hot wire - depend to what device is connected.
Adam
S/V SeaGoat
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:ZvHUc.30677$Jo1.23385@lakeread01...


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Andy K. August 18th 04 11:07 PM

Do you really need a set of wires in different colors? Maybe not. But, the
next owner might. Do yourself a favor, wire it according to the ABYC
standards. A lot less headaches down the road. Like Glen pointed out, how
much is it worth to look at a pink wire and know it is for the fuel sender
or purple for the ignition, blue for the trim...

If you have an electrical problem and pay someone to fix it for you, you
are going to pay for the time it takes them to hand over hand the wire or
ring it out if it's not color coded.

"Adam" wrote in message ...
Is any difrent with usage single wires vs 2 or three conductors flat cable
(in both cases marine grade)?
What is advantage and disadvantage - price is not the isue.

Do I really need a set of wires in difrent colors in accordance with ABYC
reccommenadtion, or labbeling is acceptable as well?

Thanks in advance
Adam
S/V SeaGoat






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