Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

wrote in message
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Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson" wrote:

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.

wrote in message
.. .
Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

I had a similar idea for lining the anchor chain locker.
Same reservations though, I couldn't get it out (in one piece anyway) to
check behind it...

Mark.

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

wrote in message
...
Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero maint.
One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no signs
of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

wrote in message
...
Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 00:16:42 GMT, wrote:

Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Hi,

For a hull POR15, coal tar epoxy or even plain epoxy are other
alternatives, though correct surface preparation is key. Would be
worth finding out what is used on commercial steel freshwater boats.

cheers,
Pete.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:17:44 GMT, "HLAviation" wrote:

I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero maint.
One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no signs
of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

What would be good for a roof? Is it available in white? Where to get it
and how to apply it?

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what I've
read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that mimics a
fish's skin, reducing drag.
Paul

"Matt Lang" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.



This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...

Matt

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

HL,
What do you mean by "steel deterioration beneath"? Beneath the coating?
How do you tell if the bonding is complete and there is no moisture
intrusion. It would seem that by the time you seen damage to the steel deck,
from below decks, the deck would be almost gone.
Paul

"HLAviation" wrote in message
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I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero
maint.
One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no
signs
of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

wrote in message
...
Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

There's rough, and there's random rough....

Some guy was telling me a story about local fishermen, in a place long
forgotten, who smear 5200 on the outside like they were plastering a
wall.

I've no idea how well it works.



On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:11:53 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what I've
read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that mimics a
fish's skin, reducing drag.
Paul

"Matt Lang" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.



This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...

Matt

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

You would be able to tell if you had rust under the coating on steel, It
would be a mound that would keep growing. Just like you would tell if your
car had a pinhole in the paint and it was rusting underneath. If the metal
is prepped correctly and applied the same it works well because it has some
flexibility and is resistant to chipping not allowing water to get
underneath.
I had the stuff sprayed on my pickup truck bed and it's great. My friend in
the construction business had it sprayed in his truck and beats it up good
and has a diesel tank in the bed that gets spills and it hasn't been
bothered in 4 years.
I don't know that I would use it underneath. How would you clean such a
rough surface?

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
HL,
What do you mean by "steel deterioration beneath"? Beneath the
coating?
How do you tell if the bonding is complete and there is no moisture
intrusion. It would seem that by the time you seen damage to the steel
deck,
from below decks, the deck would be almost gone.
Paul

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

I have been looking at a product like this called Durabak. It is sold
specifically for painting onto the decks of steel boats. Their web
site is www.nonslipcoating.com It looks pretty good, but I have not
had any experience with it whatsoever. Have any of you seen it in
action or heard any comments about it?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

Lee,
Maybe they can send you a sample to try on the deck?

"Lee Huddleston" wrote in message
.. .
I have been looking at a product like this called Durabak. It is sold
specifically for painting onto the decks of steel boats. Their web
site is www.nonslipcoating.com It looks pretty good, but I have not
had any experience with it whatsoever. Have any of you seen it in
action or heard any comments about it?

Lee Huddleston
s/v Truelove

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

Works on golf balls.

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better.

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message ...
Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what I've
read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that mimics a
fish's skin, reducing drag.
Paul

Absolutely right! A little rough actually has less drag. However thats
difficult to get..I believe shark skin has that roughness that reduces
drag.

IF this can be sprayed on it would be a must have :)

Matt


"Matt Lang" wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.



This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...

Matt

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

When I used to work with extrusion coating, the cooling rollers we had with
the machine were mirror finish, and the hot plastic would stick to it like
crazy. We had them refinished to a matte finish, I think I remember
something like a 70 RMS spec. Still felt totally smooth, but just not mirror
finish. That's all it took for the plastic to come off very nicely.

--


Keith
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Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
"Matt Lang" wrote in message
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"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
Matt,
I wonder if the right kind of ruff might not be better. From what
I've
read some of the speed swimmers are using a type of body suit that
mimics a
fish's skin, reducing drag.
Paul

Absolutely right! A little rough actually has less drag. However thats
difficult to get..I believe shark skin has that roughness that reduces
drag.

IF this can be sprayed on it would be a must have :)

Matt


"Matt Lang" wrote in message
om...
wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 21:08:41 -0400, "Doug Dotson"
wrote:

From what I gather over the years, the inside if a steal hull boat
should be left accessable for maintenance.

Doug
s/v Callista

I'm talking about the outside, not the inside. Several boaters
around here (fresh water) have done so.



This Rhino stuff although very tough is very rough .. I would be
concerned it increases drag of the boat in the water significantly ...

Matt

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

You might just use white trailer house roof paint. THAT oughta get the
neighbors talking!

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Keith
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Some days you are the bug; some days you are the windshield.
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 08:17:44 GMT, "HLAviation"
wrote:

I don't know about bottoms, but I have been selling companies on using it
for a deck coating for several years now. Non skid from hell and zero
maint.
One work boat out there I just re-visited, 6 years on the fordeck, no
signs
of damage or steel deterioration beneath.

What would be good for a roof? Is it available in white? Where to get it
and how to apply it?

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

With the rino-liner I would worry about 2 things:

1) weight - I think that stuff is pretty heavy
2) getting it in white - black would be too hot to walk on.

I just posted this on another thread, but SeaDek might work for you.
It comes in 5mm and 3mm thickness, it relatively soft, comes in
several colors, and is relatively cheap as far as decking goes. Here
are some pictures that I took of some samples:

http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/help/SeaDek.htm

Joel

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

With the rino-liner I would worry about 2 things:

1) weight - I think that stuff is pretty heavy
2) getting it in white - black would be too hot to walk on.

I just posted this on another thread, but SeaDek might work for you.
It comes in 5mm and 3mm thickness, it relatively soft, comes in
several colors, and is relatively cheap as far as decking goes. Here
are some pictures that I took of some samples:

http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/help/SeaDek.htm

Joel

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:30:17 -0700, Joel wrote:

With the rino-liner I would worry about 2 things:

1) weight - I think that stuff is pretty heavy
2) getting it in white - black would be too hot to walk on.

I just posted this on another thread, but SeaDek might work for you.
It comes in 5mm and 3mm thickness, it relatively soft, comes in
several colors, and is relatively cheap as far as decking goes. Here
are some pictures that I took of some samples:

http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/help/SeaDek.htm

Joel

I used the spray-on stuff from Canadian Tire - works pretty well. I used
it to line the anchor/downrigger ball/transom wheel/assorted junk "well"
at the bow. It only comes in black, but for sure white (or a nice grey)
would be better. Doesn't weigh any more on the boat than it did in the can
(iirc I used 2 cans)

Lloyd Sumpter
"The Tin Boat" Mirrocraft 12

Rhino type bed liners on boats???
 

Just this week I talked to a university maint. guy who used it as a shower
stall liner in a girls dorm - color was white or some other color (not black)
problem was it stained easily and he needed to 'paint' it to remove the stains
(I guess stain removers didn't work)

anyway, the issues are staining and can it be topcoated in the future????


paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html




"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."

you could check out www.sanitred.com
comes in white and is a waterproof polyurethane coating

wrote in message
...
Is it a good idea to coat the bottom of a steel hull houseboat
with a bed liner like Rhino Tuff Stuff, or something like it? One
person told me they start to peel off after a few years, but I
would think there are products of different quality, as well as
possible improvements in products of years ago which may be
the ones peeling (or whatever) today.

Do those type coatings come in different colors? It seems to
me that if they would work well in a truck bed, something like
that ought to be great for the roof of a houseboat which gets
similar traffic and things dragged around on it, etc....that is, if
the stuff is available in white.

A lot of these liner type products are urethanes, and UV will dull them up
pretty good over time. Look in the bed of my truck sometime ...tough stuff,
but very dull and ugly everywhere the sun shines ...and still shiny new
under the rails. I live in Oregon too, not a hot sunny state.

Brian D


"Paul Oman" wrote in message
...
Just this week I talked to a university maint. guy who used it as a shower
stall liner in a girls dorm - color was white or some other color (not
black)
problem was it stained easily and he needed to 'paint' it to remove the
stains
(I guess stain removers didn't work)

anyway, the issues are staining and can it be topcoated in the future????


paul oman
progressive epoxy polymers
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html




"Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include
a free trip around the Sun every year."

Drift boat builders, especially the wooden drift boat guys have been
using Rhino Liner or similar products on the bottom of their boats for
years. A comparable product that sprays smoother is LineX. Both
provide tough, water proof finishes that are very abrassion resistant
and bounce of rocks nicely.