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Nice boat plan
On Apr 3, 10:36*am, "mmc" wrote:
http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? |
Nice boat plan
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans" http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html |
Nice boat plan
On Apr 7, 3:38*pm, "mmc" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans"http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html I'd sorta like to build an updated version of the "PlyFlyer using stitch and glue. My reasoning is that the MiniCup is too small to achieve maximum advantage of going from the older methods to stitch and glue whereas the slightly bigger PlyFlyer built as stitch and glue could end up much lighter. |
Nice boat plan
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans"http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html I'd sorta like to build an updated version of the "PlyFlyer using stitch and glue. My reasoning is that the MiniCup is too small to achieve maximum advantage of going from the older methods to stitch and glue whereas the slightly bigger PlyFlyer built as stitch and glue could end up much lighter. --- Looks like a good project. When I get all my other stuff caught I'd like to build a nesting dinghy, you did this right? Like the result? |
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On Apr 10, 11:16*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans"http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html I'd sorta like to build an updated version of the "PlyFlyer using stitch and glue. *My reasoning is that the MiniCup is too small to achieve maximum advantage of going from the older methods to stitch and glue whereas the slightly bigger PlyFlyer built as stitch and glue could end up much lighter. --- Looks like a good project. When I get all my other stuff caught I'd like to build a nesting dinghy, you did this right? Like the result? Well, I do like the result but it has problems. It fits on the foredeck of my 28' sailboat but it catches the jib sheets when I tack. This has nearly caused serious problems and I cannot figure a way to completely prevent it. After going forward in nasty stuff a couple times o free the jib sheet, I am going to replace the nesting dinghy. It woukld do very well on a larger boat where it sat back far enough to be out of the way. I do have some suggestions on how o get the two halves to join in a structurally sound way. It took me three tries to get it to work. |
Nice boat plan
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 11:16 am, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans"http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html I'd sorta like to build an updated version of the "PlyFlyer using stitch and glue. My reasoning is that the MiniCup is too small to achieve maximum advantage of going from the older methods to stitch and glue whereas the slightly bigger PlyFlyer built as stitch and glue could end up much lighter. --- Looks like a good project. When I get all my other stuff caught I'd like to build a nesting dinghy, you did this right? Like the result? Well, I do like the result but it has problems. It fits on the foredeck of my 28' sailboat but it catches the jib sheets when I tack. This has nearly caused serious problems and I cannot figure a way to completely prevent it. After going forward in nasty stuff a couple times o free the jib sheet, I am going to replace the nesting dinghy. It woukld do very well on a larger boat where it sat back far enough to be out of the way. I do have some suggestions on how o get the two halves to join in a structurally sound way. It took me three tries to get it to work. ------ Mind sharing your suggestions? I'll file this for when I'm reaady. |
Nice boat plan
On Apr 11, 11:38*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 10, 11:16 am, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, "mmc" wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message .... On Apr 3, 10:36 am, "mmc" wrote: http://www.stevproj.com/ nothing to do with me, I just like some of the designs. They no longer have the plans for the MiniCup on Stevenson Projects? -------- I'll confess, didn't go to the site. I googled "minicup plans"http://www.stevproj.com/FastSailrs.html I'd sorta like to build an updated version of the "PlyFlyer using stitch and glue. My reasoning is that the MiniCup is too small to achieve maximum advantage of going from the older methods to stitch and glue whereas the slightly bigger PlyFlyer built as stitch and glue could end up much lighter. --- Looks like a good project. When I get all my other stuff caught I'd like to build a nesting dinghy, you did this right? Like the result? Well, I do like the result but it has problems. *It fits on the foredeck of my 28' sailboat but it catches the jib sheets when I tack. *This has nearly caused serious problems and I cannot figure a way to completely prevent it. *After going forward in nasty stuff a couple times o free the jib sheet, I am going to replace the nesting dinghy. *It woukld do very well on a larger boat where it sat back far enough to be out of the way. *I do have some suggestions on how o get the two halves to join in a structurally sound way. *It took me three tries to get it to work. ------ Mind sharing your suggestions? I'll file this for when I'm reaady. Instead of using bolts to secure the two halves as some nesting dinghy plans do, buy stainless Draw clamps from McMaster Carr and put them on the outside of the two halves near the gunnel. You will still need some way to join the two halves near the bottom. I used a stainless L bracket where the L from the back half slides into a recessed receiver on the front half. To have to place the draw clamps carefully, otherwise the two halves will not nest. I considered using slide nuts on bolts to join the two halves. These are nuts that slide almost all the way on when squeezed and then you tighten them. This would save a lot of time over the original design using just wing nuts but it still requires a wrench to loosen them AND you still have the holes to let water in. My nesting 2-Paw-9 is a really good boat but is still too big for my 28' sailboat foredeck. I also used closed cell foam attached to the bulkhead between the two halves as floatation. It is attached using Liquid Nails to the INSIDE of the bulkhead where it will be under the seat. I also reinforced the seat edges with glass where the edge holds the two halves together. Another thing I did to make in-water assembly easier are two pieces of ply with V cuts in them. While sitting in the back half in the water facing the bulkhead and the front half floating bulkhead toward you, pull back half toward you and put the V down over the two halves of the bulkhead to hold them together while you use the L bracket to attach front half at bottom and then use the draw clamps to secure them at the top. You may be able to forego the draw clamps if your seat has a slot that securely holds the two halves at the top of the bulkhead. My instructions said to use a 3/4" piece of wood bent around the gunnel to reinforce it. MY wood would not bend that much so I laminated it with 1/4" pieces epoxied and glassed over. I also laminated the keel and obtained a 1/8" X 3/4" piece of aluminum stock from Home Depot and used it on the bottom of the keel to keep it from getting destroyed on rocks and oyster bars. Fasten it with ss screws. |
Nice boat plan
------ Mind sharing your suggestions? I'll file this for when I'm reaady. Instead of using bolts to secure the two halves as some nesting dinghy plans do, buy stainless Draw clamps from McMaster Carr and put them on the outside of the two halves near the gunnel. You will still need some way to join the two halves near the bottom. I used a stainless L bracket where the L from the back half slides into a recessed receiver on the front half. To have to place the draw clamps carefully, otherwise the two halves will not nest. I considered using slide nuts on bolts to join the two halves. These are nuts that slide almost all the way on when squeezed and then you tighten them. This would save a lot of time over the original design using just wing nuts but it still requires a wrench to loosen them AND you still have the holes to let water in. My nesting 2-Paw-9 is a really good boat but is still too big for my 28' sailboat foredeck. I also used closed cell foam attached to the bulkhead between the two halves as floatation. It is attached using Liquid Nails to the INSIDE of the bulkhead where it will be under the seat. I also reinforced the seat edges with glass where the edge holds the two halves together. Another thing I did to make in-water assembly easier are two pieces of ply with V cuts in them. While sitting in the back half in the water facing the bulkhead and the front half floating bulkhead toward you, pull back half toward you and put the V down over the two halves of the bulkhead to hold them together while you use the L bracket to attach front half at bottom and then use the draw clamps to secure them at the top. You may be able to forego the draw clamps if your seat has a slot that securely holds the two halves at the top of the bulkhead. My instructions said to use a 3/4" piece of wood bent around the gunnel to reinforce it. MY wood would not bend that much so I laminated it with 1/4" pieces epoxied and glassed over. I also laminated the keel and obtained a 1/8" X 3/4" piece of aluminum stock from Home Depot and used it on the bottom of the keel to keep it from getting destroyed on rocks and oyster bars. Fasten it with ss screws. ---------- Thanks for this David. I was thinking about the problem with having sheets foul on the dinghy on the foredeck and thought maybe having a whisker pole hooked to the ring on the mast and the other end at the stem fitting or a piece of line rigged the same way would allow the sheets to ride over the dinghy? |
Nice boat plan
On Apr 16, 5:51*am, "mmc" wrote:
------ Mind sharing your suggestions? I'll file this for when I'm reaady. Instead of using bolts to secure the two halves as some nesting dinghy plans do, buy stainless Draw clamps from McMaster Carr and put them on the outside of the two halves near the gunnel. *You will still need some way to join the two halves near the bottom. *I used a stainless L bracket where the L from the back half slides into a recessed receiver on the front half. To have to place the draw clamps carefully, otherwise the two halves will not nest. I considered using slide nuts on bolts to join the two halves. *These are nuts that slide almost all the way on when squeezed and then you tighten them. *This would save a lot of time over the original design using just wing nuts but it still requires a wrench to loosen them AND you still have the holes to let water in. My nesting 2-Paw-9 is a really good boat but is still too big for my 28' sailboat foredeck. *I also used closed cell foam attached to the bulkhead between the two halves as floatation. *It is attached using Liquid Nails to the INSIDE of the bulkhead where it will be under the seat. *I also reinforced the seat edges with glass where the edge holds the two halves together. Another thing I did to make in-water assembly easier are two pieces of ply with V cuts in them. *While sitting in the back half in the water facing the bulkhead and the front half floating bulkhead toward you, pull back half toward you and put the V down over the two halves of the bulkhead to hold them together while you use the L bracket to attach front half at bottom and then use the draw clamps to secure them at the top. You may be able to forego the draw clamps if your seat has a slot that securely holds the two halves at the top of the bulkhead. My instructions said to use a 3/4" piece of wood bent around the gunnel to reinforce it. *MY wood would not bend that much so I laminated it with 1/4" pieces epoxied and glassed over. I also laminated the keel and obtained a 1/8" X 3/4" piece of aluminum stock from Home Depot and used it on the bottom of the keel to keep it from getting destroyed on rocks and oyster bars. *Fasten it with ss screws. ---------- Thanks for this David. I was thinking about the problem with having sheets foul on the dinghy on the foredeck and thought maybe having a whisker pole hooked to the ring on the mast and the other end at the stem fitting or a piece of line rigged the same way would allow the sheets to ride over the dinghy? hmmmmmm...............good idea. I may try this. Isn't it amazing that something like this that was obvious to you never occurred to me? |
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