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Wolfram Fassbender April 22nd 09 05:58 PM

monel screws
 

Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram


Brian Whatcott April 23rd 09 12:31 AM

monel screws
 
Wolfram Fassbender wrote:
Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches were not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram



I'm guessing you may be posting from Germany. Here's a US source with (I
think) a UK outlet - Wink.
http://www.winkfast.com/monels-400.html
There were plenty of other google hits on monel fastener catalog on line

Brian W

Calif Bill April 23rd 09 12:42 AM

monel screws
 

"Wolfram Fassbender" wrote in message
i.fu-berlin.de...

Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram

http://www.fastenal.com/web/home.ex

Fastenal seems to have about cornered the commercial fastener market.



Steve Lusardi April 28th 09 03:09 PM

monel screws
 
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for both
strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are hard to
find.
Steve

"Wolfram Fassbender" wrote in message
i.fu-berlin.de...

Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram




Brian Whatcott April 29th 09 01:20 AM

monel screws
 
Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy
steel nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for both
strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are hard to
find.
Steve

"Wolfram Fassbender" wrote in message
i.fu-berlin.de...
Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram




Bruce in Bangkok[_13_] April 29th 09 02:50 AM

monel screws
 
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:20:25 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy
steel nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for both
strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are hard to
find.
Steve

"Wolfram Fassbender" wrote in message
i.fu-berlin.de...
Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram

I typed "+wood screws +monel" into google and got 7,400 hits.

Seems like one of them might suit?


Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Steve Lusardi April 29th 09 01:54 PM

monel screws
 
Brian,
Please do the research if you disagree. Stainless fasteners exhibit far
greater strength and fatigue resistance, which by the way is poor for the
whole nickel alloy family and depending on the alloy, exhibit every bit as
good resistance to corrosion. May I also point out that nickel alloys
fasteners are not always the best solution for corrosive and electrolytic
environments and that includes monel. So, assuming your application
qualifies for a nickel alloy solution, why in the world would you choose
monel, when SS is better and less expensive?
Steve

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy steel
nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for
both strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are
hard to find.
Steve

"Wolfram Fassbender" wrote in message
i.fu-berlin.de...
Has someone here an idea where to get screws from this excellent
material monel? Google-searches where not successful after all.

Thank you in advance,
-wolfram




Brian Whatcott April 29th 09 05:57 PM

monel screws
 
Show me the stainless alloy that does not corrode when submerged for
long in salt water, and I'm your man.

BrianW

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Brian,
Please do the research if you disagree. Stainless fasteners exhibit far
greater strength and fatigue resistance, which by the way is poor for the
whole nickel alloy family and depending on the alloy, exhibit every bit as
good resistance to corrosion. May I also point out that nickel alloys
fasteners are not always the best solution for corrosive and electrolytic
environments and that includes monel. So, assuming your application
qualifies for a nickel alloy solution, why in the world would you choose
monel, when SS is better and less expensive?
Steve

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy steel
nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for
both strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are
hard to find.
Steve


Bruce in Bangkok[_13_] April 30th 09 01:30 AM

monel screws
 
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:57:55 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

Show me the stainless alloy that does not corrode when submerged for
long in salt water, and I'm your man.

BrianW


Actually quite a few. Even 304 does not corrode rapidly and I have a
316 propeller shaft that I installed 10 years ago and still exhibits
no corrosion.

What, exactly are you planning on using these fasteners for? Certainly
sufficient 3xx stainless is being used in the marine industry today
that you should have confidence that this alloy will resist corrosion
for a reasonable length of time.



Steve Lusardi wrote:
Brian,
Please do the research if you disagree. Stainless fasteners exhibit far
greater strength and fatigue resistance, which by the way is poor for the
whole nickel alloy family and depending on the alloy, exhibit every bit as
good resistance to corrosion. May I also point out that nickel alloys
fasteners are not always the best solution for corrosive and electrolytic
environments and that includes monel. So, assuming your application
qualifies for a nickel alloy solution, why in the world would you choose
monel, when SS is better and less expensive?
Steve

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy steel
nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for
both strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are
hard to find.
Steve

Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)

Brian Whatcott April 30th 09 04:16 AM

monel screws
 
Can I guess that you are relying on zincs near the prop shaft?
That would be the ONLY reason the pitting was not severe.

Brian W

Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:57:55 -0500, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

Show me the stainless alloy that does not corrode when submerged for
long in salt water, and I'm your man.

BrianW


Actually quite a few. Even 304 does not corrode rapidly and I have a
316 propeller shaft that I installed 10 years ago and still exhibits
no corrosion.

What, exactly are you planning on using these fasteners for? Certainly
sufficient 3xx stainless is being used in the marine industry today
that you should have confidence that this alloy will resist corrosion
for a reasonable length of time.


Steve Lusardi wrote:
Brian,
Please do the research if you disagree. Stainless fasteners exhibit far
greater strength and fatigue resistance, which by the way is poor for the
whole nickel alloy family and depending on the alloy, exhibit every bit as
good resistance to corrosion. May I also point out that nickel alloys
fasteners are not always the best solution for corrosive and electrolytic
environments and that includes monel. So, assuming your application
qualifies for a nickel alloy solution, why in the world would you choose
monel, when SS is better and less expensive?
Steve

"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
Strong AND corrosion-resistant!
I'm all ears! Bronze? Particular brasses? Not stainless nor alloy steel
nor mild steel certainly. Some aluminum alloys? possibly.
nickel alloys (other than monel??) Titanium??

Brian W

Steve Lusardi wrote:
Ezcellent? I don't think so. There are other materials far better for
both strength and corrosion resistance. There are reasons why they are
hard to find.
Steve

Cheers,

Bruce in Bangkok
(bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom)



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