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Bart October 23rd 08 10:43 PM

Navigation Question #8
 
Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]

Charles Momsen October 23rd 08 10:48 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 23rd 08 11:10 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.


Polaris is of dubious utility in the southern hemisphere. I'd have to say
the Moon.

Wilbur Hubbard



Charles Momsen October 23rd 08 11:22 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.


Polaris is of dubious utility in the southern hemisphere. I'd have to say
the Moon.

Wilbur Hubbard


Excellent point. Personally I would avoid sailing in the Southern Oceans,
it's full of foreigners.



jlrogers±³©[_2_] October 23rd 08 11:28 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


My ex-wife.


Capt. JG October 24th 08 01:39 AM

Navigation Question #8
 
"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]



Is she blonde or brunette?

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Capt. JG October 24th 08 01:39 AM

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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


My ex-wife.



Har!

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jlrogers±³©[_2_] October 24th 08 02:36 PM

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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


My ex-wife.



Har!

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I wish Scotty were around to answer the questions.




Capt. JG October 24th 08 06:26 PM

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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]

My ex-wife.



Har!

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I wish Scotty were around to answer the questions.





Not sure where he went... too bad.


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Marty[_2_] October 25th 08 04:49 AM

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Capt. JG wrote:
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"Bart" wrote in message
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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]
My ex-wife.

Har!

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I wish Scotty were around to answer the questions.



Not sure where he went... too bad.


He got sick of the **** from Boob**** and Neals sockpuppets.

Cheers
Martin

Bart October 26th 08 12:18 PM

Navigation Question #8
 
On Oct 23, 9:48*pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? *[1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.


For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

Charles Momsen October 26th 08 03:49 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Bart" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

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Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.


For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 26th 08 06:54 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

...

Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]


The earth, then Polaris.


For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhah! Time of year has nothing to do with
where Polaris is seen in the sky. The Earth's axis of rotation is only
different with respect to the sun making for seasons, not to the plane of
the ecliptic. Duh! Now, had you said something about it depends upon in
which epoch you might have had a point because of something called
precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I hope this helps.

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q1795.html


Wilbur Hubbard



Marty[_2_] October 26th 08 07:05 PM

Navigation Question #8
 
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

...

Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]
The earth, then Polaris.

For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhah! Time of year has nothing to do with
where Polaris is seen in the sky. The Earth's axis of rotation is only
different with respect to the sun making for seasons, not to the plane of
the ecliptic. Duh! Now, had you said something about it depends upon in
which epoch you might have had a point because of something called
precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I hope this helps.

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q1795.html



Well Neal, strictly speaking Charles is correct,, it is caused by
parallax error. Or more correctly, geocentric parallax, for Polaris
it's about 0.007",,, not likely that you'd be able to measure it while
at sea.


Ref: http://www.alcyone.de/SIT/mainstars/SIT000816.htm

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Martin

Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 26th 08 07:19 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Marty" wrote in message
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

...

Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]
The earth, then Polaris.
For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhah! Time of year has nothing to do with
where Polaris is seen in the sky. The Earth's axis of rotation is only
different with respect to the sun making for seasons, not to the plane of
the ecliptic. Duh! Now, had you said something about it depends upon in
which epoch you might have had a point because of something called
precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I hope this helps.

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q1795.html



Well Neal, strictly speaking Charles is correct,, it is caused by parallax
error. Or more correctly, geocentric parallax, for Polaris it's about
0.007",,, not likely that you'd be able to measure it while at sea.


Ref: http://www.alcyone.de/SIT/mainstars/SIT000816.htm

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Martin



So, you are saying the parallax is seven thousandths of an arc second
depending upon where in her orbit around the sun the Earth happens to be
(time of year)? I'll give you that but that parallax is too small to make
any difference when shooting a Polaris angle. So, my contention that saying
it depends upon the time of year is dumb remains true. Momsen must be
getting senile in his dotage.

Wilbur Hubbard



Charles Momsen October 26th 08 09:17 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
...
On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

...

Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]

The earth, then Polaris.


For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhah! Time of year has nothing to do with
where Polaris is seen in the sky. The Earth's axis of rotation is only
different with respect to the sun making for seasons, not to the plane of
the ecliptic. Duh! Now, had you said something about it depends upon in
which epoch you might have had a point because of something called
precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I hope this helps.

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q1795.html


Wilbur Hubbard


You're right - I'm wrong! Learned another new thing today, thanks.



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 26th 08 09:57 PM

Navigation Question #8
 

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Bart" wrote in message
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On Oct 23, 9:48 pm, "Charles Momsen" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

...

Aside from the Sun, when heavenly body is most
useful for determining your latitude? [1 pt]

The earth, then Polaris.

For the Northern Hemisphere, Polaris is quite
useful. How much does it vary from true
North?

It depends on the time of year.


Bwahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhah! Time of year has nothing to do with
where Polaris is seen in the sky. The Earth's axis of rotation is only
different with respect to the sun making for seasons, not to the plane of
the ecliptic. Duh! Now, had you said something about it depends upon in
which epoch you might have had a point because of something called
precession of the Earth's rotational axis.

I hope this helps.

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q1795.html


Wilbur Hubbard


You're right - I'm wrong! Learned another new thing today, thanks.


One thing I know for sure, you're not a Gaynz sock! He's never admitted he's
wrong - not a single time in his entire wretched life.

Wilbur Hubbard



Charles Momsen October 26th 08 10:13 PM

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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One thing I know for sure, you're not a Gaynz sock!


http://www.overtherainbowshop.com/Socks.htm ?




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