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Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
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Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:32:50 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: "Dave" wrote in message . .. We know that Ifill is objective, fair and balanced because of her employment record, right Jon? PBS, NY Times, Washington Post and NBC. What could be more balanced than that? Do you believe that one's employment history is the definative, objective measure of someone's bias or lack of bias? Do you think MoveOn.org is gonna hire Rush Limbaugh to write for its web site? I don't know. Is MoveOn.org media or is Limbaugh? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
On 2 Oct 2008 12:43:05 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:52:34 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Those two words - "liberal media" - are guaranteed to work magic with their constituency. But of course we know there's no truth whatever in those words, right? And, the right-wingnut media doesn't exist at all. Being a bit disingenuous again I see. We know that Ifill is objective, fair and balanced because of her employment record, right Jon? PBS, NY Times, Washington Post and NBC. What could be more balanced than that? Oh, please! The McCain campaign knew all about this in advance. They WANTED this person to be the moderator so they could then use it as an excuse when Palin predictably embarrasses herself and her party in the debate. I expect to hear a lot of Boo-hoo-hoo from McCain supporters about how unfair the debate was. |
Biden will clobber Palin
On 2 Oct 2008 14:55:01 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:32:50 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: "Dave" wrote in message . .. We know that Ifill is objective, fair and balanced because of her employment record, right Jon? PBS, NY Times, Washington Post and NBC. What could be more balanced than that? Do you believe that one's employment history is the definative, objective measure of someone's bias or lack of bias? Do you think MoveOn.org is gonna hire Rush Limbaugh to write for its web site? They did hire him, but he couldn't pass the urine test. |
Biden will clobber Palin
wrote in message ... On 2 Oct 2008 14:55:01 -0500, Dave wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:32:50 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: "Dave" wrote in message ... We know that Ifill is objective, fair and balanced because of her employment record, right Jon? PBS, NY Times, Washington Post and NBC. What could be more balanced than that? Do you believe that one's employment history is the definative, objective measure of someone's bias or lack of bias? Do you think MoveOn.org is gonna hire Rush Limbaugh to write for its web site? They did hire him, but he couldn't pass the urine test. True, he melted the cup but he did pass the gas test. |
Biden will clobber Palin
On 2 Oct 2008 19:17:01 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:30 -0400, said: Oh, please! The McCain campaign knew all about this in advance. In advance of what? Its approving her as the moderator? They knew about her upcoming book, but are pretending they didn't. They approved her BECAUSE of the book. They badly need some sort of "defense" if the debate goes pear shaped for her, as it seems likely to do. |
Biden will clobber Palin
On 2 Oct 2008 19:10:03 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:30 -0400, said: Oh, please! The McCain campaign knew all about this in advance. What is the basis for your belief? The long and well known history of the key players. ....cue the Carl Rove theme music |
Biden will clobber Palin
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... On 2 Oct 2008 19:17:01 -0500, Dave wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:55:30 -0400, said: Oh, please! The McCain campaign knew all about this in advance. In advance of what? Its approving her as the moderator? They knew about her upcoming book, but are pretending they didn't. They approved her BECAUSE of the book. They badly need some sort of "defense" if the debate goes pear shaped for her, as it seems likely to do. The whole fricken world knew about her book... it's a red herring, bs, McCain, right-wingnut, Karl (Achtung) Rove distraction from the fact that Palin was palid compared to Biden, but did ok because she didn't fall off the stage. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
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Biden will clobber Palin
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... On 3 Oct 2008 09:25:02 -0500, Dave wrote: On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:40:50 -0400, said: Oh, please! The McCain campaign knew all about this in advance. What is the basis for your belief? The long and well known history of the key players. ...cue the Carl Rove theme music So you had not basis whatever for the assertion other than your own dark suspicions. Gonna join Larry's club? You believe in an awful lot of things that are based on much less. While we are on the subject, ask Ms. Palin how old the Earth is. Come on now Salty... we all know it's somewhere between 6K and 10K years old. We have "evidence" of this in cave pictures. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
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... On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: The whole fricken world knew about her book... So, Jon, when did you learn about it, and from what source? From a very reliable one.... you!! LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions... Do you think MoveOn.org is gonna hire Rush Limbaugh to write for its web site? Is MoveOn.org media or is Limbaugh? Still waiting for your answer..... FYI, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann..._b_131489.html. She's still not clear about the role of the VP, apparently.... IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch? PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also. IFILL: Vice President Cheney's interpretation of the vice presidency? BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that. And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit. The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... "Capt. JG" wrote in message easolutions... Do you think MoveOn.org is gonna hire Rush Limbaugh to write for its web site? Is MoveOn.org media or is Limbaugh? Still waiting for your answer..... FYI, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ariann..._b_131489.html. She's still not clear about the role of the VP, apparently.... IFILL: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. Do you believe as Vice President Cheney does, that the Executive Branch does not hold complete sway over the office of the vice presidency, that it it is also a member of the Legislative Branch? PALIN: Well, our founding fathers were very wise there in allowing through the Constitution much flexibility there in the office of the vice president. And we will do what is best for the American people in tapping into that position and ushering in an agenda that is supportive and cooperative with the president's agenda in that position. Yeah, so I do agree with him that we have a lot of flexibility in there, and we'll do what we have to do to administer very appropriately the plans that are needed for this nation. And it is my executive experience that is partly to be attributed to my pick as V.P. with McCain, not only as a governor, but earlier on as a mayor, as an oil and gas regulator, as a business owner. It is those years of experience on an executive level that will be put to good use in the White House also. IFILL: Vice President Cheney's interpretation of the vice presidency? BIDEN: Vice President Cheney has been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history. The idea he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the vice president of the United States, that's the Executive Branch. He works in the Executive Branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that. And the primary role of the vice president of the United States of America is to support the president of the United States of America, give that president his or her best judgment when sought, and as vice president, to preside over the Senate, only in a time when in fact there's a tie vote. The Constitution is explicit. The only authority the vice president has from the legislative standpoint is the vote, only when there is a tie vote. He has no authority relative to the Congress. The idea he's part of the Legislative Branch is a bizarre notion invented by Cheney to aggrandize the power of a unitary executive and look where it has gotten us. It has been very dangerous. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Actually, Andrew Johnson was the most dangerous Vice President in history, but then someone would have to know something about history. Good ole Andrew went onto the presidency, the first president to be impeached and the only president to declare war against a religion and send troops outside of the US to attack it. |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:41:50 -0600, "Charles Momsen" said: Actually, Andrew Johnson was the most dangerous Vice President in history, but then someone would have to know something about history. No one would ever accuse Joe Biden of knowing something about history. Witness his fairy tale about FDR's getting on television in 1929 and telling people about the causes of the depression. Biden is well aware that Johnson became President after Lincoln's assassination. He saw pictures of him getting sworn in aboard Air Force 1. |
Biden will clobber Palin
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... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:22:55 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. I don't recall her having said that. Do you? What were her exact words? Dave, if you're unable to look up the transcript via google, I don't think I can help you much. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
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... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:04:55 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: The whole fricken world knew about her book... So, Jon, when did you learn about it, and from what source? From a very reliable one.... you!! LOL Q.E.D. Which, translated into English means, "I have no logical argument." -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
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On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:41:50 -0600, "Charles Momsen" said: Actually, Andrew Johnson was the most dangerous Vice President in history, but then someone would have to know something about history. No one would ever accuse Joe Biden of knowing something about history. Witness his fairy tale about FDR's getting on television in 1929 and telling people about the causes of the depression. Hmmn, just like your declaration that the Congress was Democrat in 1999? Ergo you know nothing about history? Cheers Marty |
Biden will clobber Palin
On 3 Oct 2008 15:20:01 -0500, Dave wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:48:52 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: The whole fricken world knew about her book... So, Jon, when did you learn about it, and from what source? From a very reliable one.... you!! LOL Q.E.D. Which, translated into English means, "I have no logical argument." Umm....no. Translated into English it means no further argument necessary from me. You have already proved my point for me. Fact not in evidence. |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:48:15 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Governor, you mentioned a moment ago the constitution might give the vice president more power than it has in the past. I don't recall her having said that. Do you? What were her exact words? Dave, if you're unable to look up the transcript via google, I don't think I can help you much. I did, Jon. That's why I asked the question. So, you're real problem is that you're unable to read? Naw, that can't be it... must be a comprehension problem! LOL -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:48:52 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: The whole fricken world knew about her book... So, Jon, when did you learn about it, and from what source? From a very reliable one.... you!! LOL Q.E.D. Which, translated into English means, "I have no logical argument." Umm....no. Translated into English it means no further argument necessary from me. Because you have no logical argument.... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Dave" wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 12:48:52 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:01:02 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: The whole fricken world knew about her book... So, Jon, when did you learn about it, and from what source? From a very reliable one.... you!! LOL Q.E.D. Which, translated into English means, "I have no logical argument." Umm....no. Translated into English it means no further argument necessary from me. Because you have no logical argument.... I'm curious, how do you identify something as "logical"? I see it as the "dark matter" of thinking for you. You may think it's there but you can't see it, touch it measure it or even describe it, let alone explain it. It causes things that you can't explain otherwise with your mental toolbox but your grasp of it is thin at best, non existent most of the time. |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:46:44 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: So, you're real problem is that you're unable to read? Naw, that can't be it... must be a comprehension problem! LOL On the contrary, I read rather carefully. The transcript shows that Ipfel misquoted what Palin had said. Who is Iphel? You're going to claim that the VeePeeCreep is not part of the Executive? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
Biden will clobber Palin
"Dave" wrote in message
... On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:09:13 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Who is Iphel? I dunno, who is Iphel? You're going to claim that the VeePeeCreep is not part of the Executive? That's too childish to merit a reply. So, you believe that he's right? I haven't called you childish in years. Why don't you tell us that the economy is just fine again. I could use a laugh. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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