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Gregory Hall May 14th 08 12:33 AM

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http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological disorders.
My how the mighty have fallen!

--
Gregory Hall



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] May 14th 08 12:46 AM

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"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
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http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological
disorders. My how the mighty have fallen!

--
Gregory Hall



Or, "Johnny comes whining and sniveling home again, hooray, hoorah!" I
agree, that's so disgraceful giving credence to anybody who acts like some
psycho nut case. Hey, if you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
Nobody made you join the military.

Wilbur Hubbard



Bloody Horvath May 16th 08 01:38 AM

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On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:33:54 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:

http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological disorders.
My how the mighty have fallen!



No mighty warriors should allow this.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Bloody Horvath May 16th 08 01:38 AM

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On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:33:54 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:

http://online.wsj.com/public/article... main_tff_top

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological disorders.
My how the mighty have fallen!



No mighty warriors should allow this.





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Steve May 16th 08 04:50 PM

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On 13-May-2008, "Gregory Hall" wrote:

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological
disorders.
My how the mighty have fallen!


That's what happens when civilian bed wetters run a war rather than
warriors. The U.S. is playing meal-on-wheels to the enemy while suffering
the attacks of savages. Rebuild that ********??????? The United States won
the war in 3 1/2 weeks - attempting to make them civilized is asinine.

Back out all the troops, dispose of munitions by launching them from the
border, and let them sort themselves out. The height of stupidity is
"bringing democracy to the middle east" when it exists nowhere else on Earth
except in prisons and the bushes of Africa. They have a democracy in Iraq
(by ludicrous "American" standards) meaning they can elect their own dirt
bags. Like in the U.S. The U.S. doesn't like the dirt bags that were
elected. Hhahahahahahahaha - same in "Palestine" and Lebanon.

Worse is coming.

Gregory Hall May 16th 08 05:02 PM

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"Steve" wrote in message
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On 13-May-2008, "Gregory Hall" wrote:

Military now considering awarding purple hearts for psychological
disorders.
My how the mighty have fallen!


That's what happens when civilian bed wetters run a war rather than
warriors. The U.S. is playing meal-on-wheels to the enemy while suffering
the attacks of savages. Rebuild that ********??????? The United States
won
the war in 3 1/2 weeks - attempting to make them civilized is asinine.

Back out all the troops, dispose of munitions by launching them from the
border, and let them sort themselves out. The height of stupidity is
"bringing democracy to the middle east" when it exists nowhere else on
Earth
except in prisons and the bushes of Africa. They have a democracy in Iraq
(by ludicrous "American" standards) meaning they can elect their own dirt
bags. Like in the U.S. The U.S. doesn't like the dirt bags that were
elected. Hhahahahahahahaha - same in "Palestine" and Lebanon.

Worse is coming.


Can't argue with your logic. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right is
a truism. The Iraq war was definitely worth doing and had the wholehearted
sanction of the U.S. Congress. Even all but one or two Democrats were on the
bandwagon. Where we fell short was in the doing it right. PC reared it's
ugly head.

Doing it right would have entailed doing what we did in the first month.
Then we should have withdrawn completely along the borders and secured them.
Then we should have let the disparate factions duke it out. If we didn't
like the outcome we should have then bombed the winners out of existence and
then let them have at it again until some semblance of a civilized and
secure winner emerged. Then and only then we go back in and set up a
permanent military base paid for with Iraqi oil along with cheap oil in the
future until all military spending on the war was reimbursed.

That's the way a man would have handled it. Wimps did it the way we saw it
done.

--
Gregory Hall



Steve May 16th 08 07:38 PM

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On 16-May-2008, "Gregory Hall" wrote:

Doing it right would have entailed doing what we did in the first month.
Then we should have withdrawn completely along the borders and secured
them.
Then we should have let the disparate factions duke it out. If we didn't
like the outcome we should have then bombed the winners out of existence
and
then let them have at it again until some semblance of a civilized and
secure winner emerged. Then and only then we go back in and set up a
permanent military base paid for with Iraqi oil along with cheap oil in
the
future until all military spending on the war was reimbursed.

That's the way a man would have handled it. Wimps did it the way we saw it

done.


It's refreshing to know there's more than me out here who think we're wimps.
If you listen to the bed wetters, "Bush is a Nazi" which is just the
opposite to the truth. The PC baloney is why the U.S. is history. Where's
Truman or MacArthur when we need them. (actually I said that exact same
thing on Sept. 11.

Gregory Hall May 17th 08 10:11 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Steve" wrote
"Gregory Hall" wrote:

Doing it right would have entailed doing what we did in the first
month....

It's refreshing to know there's more than me out here who think we're
wimps....


I'm all for killing the terrorists who attacked us both at home and
overseas but Saddam was NOT one of them. Just the opposite. He may have
disagreed with us on Israel but he was one of the biggest secular bulwarks
against our real enemy, radical Islam, in the middle east. Al qaeda even
had a price on his head.

If Bush had been president when the Japs hit Pearl Harbor he no doubt
would have diverted military and intel assets away from Japan and invaded
Russia or Austrailia instead. The Iraq war makes almost as much sense.

One writer suggested that we could "win" in Iraq by cutting off the bad
guys supplies of weapons and ammo just like we did to Germany. Good
plan - except that we were forced to hand them enough stuff to fight
indefinately because Blundering Bush didn't give the military enough
manpower to secure Saddam's ammo dumps let alone keep museums and all from
being looted. That's where all the IEDs came from.




Saddam Hussein was a terrorist - end of argument. You lose!

Your problem, like most rabid Bush haters, is you confuse even yourself with
all your extraneous bull**** liberal talking points.

Now run along you little chicken ****. That yellow streak up your back
bothers my eyes.

--
Gregory Hall



Steve May 18th 08 03:12 PM

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On 17-May-2008, "Gregory Hall" wrote:

Saddam Hussein was a terrorist - end of argument.


Possible, but irrelevant - it took Mr. Hussein to keep the savages in check.
The U.S. "fixed" that by mandating a "democracy" that put Shiite savages in
charge.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha ha

Gregory Hall May 19th 08 04:35 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Gregory Hall" wrote
Saddam Hussein was a terrorist - end of argument. You lose!


Bull ****! Saddam only supported terrorism in Israel - not my problem.

Your problem, like most rabid Bush haters,


Your problem is that you are a blind sycophant, blind to truth.

Now run along you little chicken ****. That yellow streak up your back
bothers my eyes.


Greg, if you met me you'd **** your pants.



Probably. Chicks with dicks tend to turn my stomach!

--
Gregory Hall



Gregory Hall May 19th 08 06:51 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Gregory Hall" wrote
A bunch of mindless drivil ...
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Amazing how lobbying to send others to fight makes some people feel brave.


I am a Vietnam era, Army veteran, military policeman, and yourself?

--
Gregory Hall



Gregory Hall May 19th 08 07:19 PM

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wrote in message
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On Mon, 19 May 2008 13:51:06 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:


"Vito" wrote in message
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"Gregory Hall" wrote
A bunch of mindless drivil ...
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Amazing how lobbying to send others to fight makes some people feel
brave.


I am a Vietnam era, Army veteran, military policeman, and yourself?


We've seen a photo of you in your dress uniform. It said "Water
Department on the pocket.



Is it illegal for a veteran to become employed in a high-paying, plentiful
perk, government job with excellent pension after having served his country
in a time of war and receiving an honorable discharge from the military?

Do tell me about YOUR military service, Vito? Playing with GI Joe doll does
not count, BTW.

--
Gregory Hall



Gregory Hall May 20th 08 07:26 PM

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Gregory Hall" wrote

I am a Vietnam era, Army veteran, military policeman, and yourself?

Grew up in So Central LA (Compton)

Did you see any combat or did you just direct traffic?



I held a top secret security clearance because of my duties and duty
stations. I swore an oath of secrecy to never reveal my whereabouts in the
military. That should give you a clue as to vital and sensitive nature of
my service to the country. DOD contractors are mercenaries - the lowest form
of life.

--
Gregory Hall



Bloody Horvath May 20th 08 10:21 PM

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:26:25 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:



I held a top secret security clearance because of my duties and duty
stations. I swore an oath of secrecy to never reveal my whereabouts in the
military. That should give you a clue as to vital and sensitive nature of
my service to the country. DOD contractors are mercenaries - the lowest form
of life.



Yeah right. Everybody says they had a top secret clearance. I'm a
retired military officer, and i hear this all the time.

You don't swear an oath to your top secret clearance. You don't swear
an oath never to reveal your whereabouts. Poseur.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Gregory Hall May 20th 08 10:57 PM

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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:26:25 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:



I held a top secret security clearance because of my duties and duty
stations. I swore an oath of secrecy to never reveal my whereabouts in the
military. That should give you a clue as to vital and sensitive nature of
my service to the country. DOD contractors are mercenaries - the lowest
form
of life.



Yeah right. Everybody says they had a top secret clearance. I'm a
retired military officer, and i hear this all the time.

You don't swear an oath to your top secret clearance. You don't swear
an oath never to reveal your whereabouts. Poseur.



Some of us, as a prerequisite of our discharge from the military, were
required to do so, to sign documents. Some of us were working in top secret
places on top secret projects or missions. I was not in Cambodia but some
U.S. military personnel were there. Yet, there is NO OFFICIAL record of any
military personal being there. Try to make a disability claim based on the
fact that you were exposed to something or disabled in Cambodia and no
official records will exist that this was the case. Some things, for
national security reasons, are kept hushed up and rightly so.

You are correct to state that one does not swear an oath on a top secret
clearance. I never stated that I did. One is often required to swear an oath
of secrecy as to the mission and the whereabouts of the mission, however. If
you aren't aware of this FACT they you are the poseur.

Now, run along. You irritate me. I think I know why you retired. Couldn't
pass the new standards pertaining to education? Or was it you were too fat?

--
Gregory Hall



Bloody Horvath May 20th 08 11:49 PM

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On Tue, 20 May 2008 17:57:13 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:


Yeah right. Everybody says they had a top secret clearance. I'm a
retired military officer, and i hear this all the time.

You don't swear an oath to your top secret clearance. You don't swear
an oath never to reveal your whereabouts. Poseur.



Some of us, as a prerequisite of our discharge from the military, were
required to do so, to sign documents. Some of us were working in top secret
places on top secret projects or missions. I was not in Cambodia but some
U.S. military personnel were there. Yet, there is NO OFFICIAL record of any
military personal being there. Try to make a disability claim based on the
fact that you were exposed to something or disabled in Cambodia and no
official records will exist that this was the case. Some things, for
national security reasons, are kept hushed up and rightly so.



Bull****.


You are correct to state that one does not swear an oath on a top secret
clearance. I never stated that I did. One is often required to swear an oath
of secrecy as to the mission and the whereabouts of the mission, however. If
you aren't aware of this FACT they you are the poseur.


Now you're Peter Graves?


Now, run along. You irritate me. I think I know why you retired. Couldn't
pass the new standards pertaining to education? Or was it you were too fat?



Ha Ha Ha Ha! I've posted pics of myself. I'm 6' and 175 lbs. And
I've got more education than you. I'm a communications engineer.
You should know that you can't be an officer unless you have a degree.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Puff May 21st 08 12:01 AM

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"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:26:25 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote this crap:



I held a top secret security clearance because of my duties and duty
stations. I swore an oath of secrecy to never reveal my whereabouts in
the
military. That should give you a clue as to vital and sensitive nature
of
my service to the country. DOD contractors are mercenaries - the lowest
form
of life.



Yeah right. Everybody says they had a top secret clearance. I'm a
retired military officer, and i hear this all the time.

You don't swear an oath to your top secret clearance. You don't swear
an oath never to reveal your whereabouts. Poseur.



Some of us, as a prerequisite of our discharge from the military, were
required to do so, to sign documents. Some of us were working in top
secret places on top secret projects or missions. I was not in Cambodia
but some U.S. military personnel were there. Yet, there is NO OFFICIAL
record of any military personal being there. Try to make a disability
claim based on the fact that you were exposed to something or disabled in
Cambodia and no official records will exist that this was the case. Some
things, for national security reasons, are kept hushed up and rightly so.

You are correct to state that one does not swear an oath on a top secret
clearance. I never stated that I did. One is often required to swear an
oath of secrecy as to the mission and the whereabouts of the mission,
however. If you aren't aware of this FACT they you are the poseur.

Now, run along. You irritate me. I think I know why you retired. Couldn't
pass the new standards pertaining to education? Or was it you were too
fat?

He has big tits



Maynard G. Krebbs May 28th 08 11:24 PM

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 08:18:32 -0400, "Vito"
wrote:

"Gregory Hall" wrote

Some of us, as a prerequisite of our discharge from the military, were
required to do so, to sign documents. Some of us were working in top
secret places on top secret projects or missions.


AFAIK everybody who has/had a clearance had to sign sich a nondisclosure
agreement but that reminds me of a funny story a SEAL 1 vet related.

When stateside in San Diego they used to play games with the recon marines
from Pendleton, trying to infiltrate each others' places just for drill.
The local IRS decided that they couldn't have their out-of-country tax
exemption unless they disclosed all foreign countries they'd visited, which
of course they couldn't do. So IRS decided to seize one SEAL's fancy car
and got all dressed up in combat costumes to make a sneak raid. Not only
did they get caught but the team thot they were marines! But after water
boarding, duct taping and tossing them into a pool, and some tad less
pleasant entertainments during which the captives didn't act much like
marines, they had to let them go .....

Of course nothing like this ever happened - it's just silly a story g.


Of course it is just a silly story. Recon Marines never raided/got
raided by any SEAL type persons. Just couldn't happen. Especially
not the ammo dumps. WHY, that would be stealing. LOL
Mark E. Williams



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