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[email protected] December 11th 07 02:53 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises would you
make?

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast," light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane off the wind,
etc etc.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley & head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Martin Baxter December 11th 07 05:31 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
wrote:
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises would you
make?

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast," light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane off the wind,
etc etc.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley & head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Hmmm , fast, points well, is warm and dry, sails comfortably, is
absoulutely maintenance free, never lets you run aground, costs nothing
to purchase, is so pretty that marinas let you stay for free... oh,
almost forgot, your wife loves it! No wait that might be a draw back
for some..!

To answer your question, I don't think there is such a thing as the
"perfect" boat.

Cheers
Marty

Jeff December 11th 07 05:54 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
wrote:
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises would you
make?

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast," light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane off the wind,
etc etc.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley & head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Hmmm , fast, points well, is warm and dry, sails comfortably, is
absoulutely maintenance free, never lets you run aground, costs nothing
to purchase, is so pretty that marinas let you stay for free... oh,
almost forgot, your wife loves it! No wait that might be a draw back
for some..!


You forgot large enough to live on in luxury, small enough to put a
trailer and stash behind the garage. Gee, its sounding a lot like a Mac!



[email protected] December 11th 07 05:57 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Hmmm , fast, points well, is warm and dry, sails comfortably, is
absoulutely maintenance free, never lets you run aground, costs nothing
to purchase, is so pretty that marinas let you stay for free... oh,
almost forgot, your wife loves it! No wait that might be a draw back
for some..!


OK, how about the *almost* perfect boat?

jeff wrote:
You forgot large enough to live on in luxury, small enough to put a
trailer and stash behind the garage. Gee, its sounding a lot like a Mac!


You should start a new religion based on that premise, Jeff.

DSK

Bob Crantz December 11th 07 09:16 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:57:43 -0800 (PST), said:

Gee, its sounding a lot like a Mac!

You should start a new religion based on that premise, Jeff.


Too late.


Amen!



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] December 11th 07 09:54 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 

wrote in message
...
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises would you
make?

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast," light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane off the wind,
etc etc.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley & head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


A man like you will tire quickly if you owned an old "character" boat. Those
things are generally an expensive waste of time. All you get out of them if
you do a good job keeping them Bristol is comments from rubes at the dock.
It's not worth the effort to please a handful of wannabes is it?

Go for the modern performance sailboat. The real fun and challenge is in the
sailing and not in the ooooohs and aaaaws from uninformed, magazine reading
putzes. Just remember the perfect boat is one you can't imagine ever getting
rid of. But, remember a boat is not a wife. You can and should take a ride
on another boat from time to time to satisfy any longings for variety you
might feel.

Wilbur Hubbard



Bloody Horvath December 12th 07 02:02 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 12:54:50 -0500, jeff wrote this
crap:

You forgot large enough to live on in luxury, small enough to put a
trailer and stash behind the garage. Gee, its sounding a lot like a Mac!



You can't live on a Mac. Where would the servants stay? Where would
you keep the beer?





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Capt. JG December 12th 07 07:55 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
wrote in message
...
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?


Sure... either:

The one you own, the one you're about to own, the one you had, the one you
get to sail for free, the one you get to sail for free that includes free
beer and beautiful women.

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises would you
make?


It needs to be sea-kindly for whatever conditions I typically sail. It needs
to be either diesel or electric (wish list). It needs to be built well with
a logical and functional layout, and needs to look the part. Equipment is
always a compromise and can be upgraded. The boat itself needs to be worth
upgrading. That's not something you can compromise.

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast," light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane off the wind,
etc etc.


I'm not super concerned with speed. It needs to be capable of making good
headway on all points of sail. For me, it needs to be capable of heavy air
sailing, while being relatively dry.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley & head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?


Comfort is important, both for day/weekend sailing and for longer trips. So,
a lot of beam, while nice in the slip isn't going to cut it elsewhere. My
boat is 10 ft on the beam, but it's designed well and seems more beamy. It
never gets that hot or that cold that I need anything more than a small room
heater.

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.


I love the look of the ketch or yawl or even a cutter rig. I have a sloop,
and I'm happy with the look and certainly how she sails.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty December 13th 07 01:16 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
My boat is perfect for me. I know that's not what you
wanted to hear, but it's a fact.

SBV


wrote in message

groups.com...
How about a sailing discussion?

Is there such a thing as a perfect boat?

What characteristics would be paramount, what compromises

would you
make?

Speed? Many different characteristics make a boat "fast,"

light-air
performance, good pointing to windward, ability to plane

off the wind,
etc etc.

Comfort? A roomy cabin, or one with a sumptuous galley &

head... how
about reliable & effective heater and/or air conditioner?

Looks? I'm torn between tradition, say a gaff-rigged

schooner.... and
a racy modern sport boat... both can be very good looking.

What do you think?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




[email protected] December 13th 07 02:46 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
"Scotty" wrote:
My boat is perfect for me. I know that's not what you
wanted to hear, but it's a fact.


I like your boat, too. If it had a self-refilling cooler, it would be
perfect for me too.

DSK

Scotty December 13th 07 10:15 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 

wrote in message

groups.com...
"Scotty" wrote:
My boat is perfect for me. I know that's not what you
wanted to hear, but it's a fact.


I like your boat, too. If it had a self-refilling cooler,

it would be
perfect for me too.



it does...Lisa.




Terry K December 16th 07 05:36 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Perfect boat? Where? When? Who?

Paid for.

Easy. Fun. Sleepable. (After 30 years in the military, I can sleep
in a garbage can rolling down stairs!)

Cookable, even a camp stove.

Everything is relative, nothing is perfect.

If I enjoy it, it is good enough.

So: Fiberglass, 6' headroom, shallow draught, automatic sail tending
(jib boom!), an engine of some sort, room for a companion, or not. A
shower! Air conditioning!

But especially... Bug Screens!

More so, a lightning rod and grounded anchor chain or substitute.

Sandwiches and rum, to sterilize the river water. A cooker for canned
stew and coffee.

A dinghy, for fishing.

My Tyler 29 Bilge keeler is perfect enough!

Merry Christmas,

Terry K

Bloody Horvath December 16th 07 05:56 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:36:06 -0800 (PST), Terry K
wrote this crap:

Perfect boat? Where? When? Who?

Paid for.

Easy. Fun. Sleepable. (After 30 years in the military, I can sleep
in a garbage can rolling down stairs!)

Cookable, even a camp stove.

Everything is relative, nothing is perfect.

If I enjoy it, it is good enough.

So: Fiberglass, 6' headroom, shallow draught, automatic sail tending
(jib boom!), an engine of some sort, room for a companion, or not. A
shower! Air conditioning!

But especially... Bug Screens!

More so, a lightning rod and grounded anchor chain or substitute.

Sandwiches and rum, to sterilize the river water. A cooker for canned
stew and coffee.

A dinghy, for fishing.

My Tyler 29 Bilge keeler is perfect enough!

Merry Christmas,

Terry K



Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.


Merry Christmas. Fleas Navidad. Happy Chanakuh. Rabid Ramadan. And
Happy Holidays.

Go Buckeyes!






I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

[email protected] December 16th 07 06:05 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Paid for.

Bloody Horvath wrote:
Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.


I believe Terry K is English and does not put his beer in a cooler.

Also, the issue of a self-filling cooler has already been addressed.
Pay attention!

DSK

Capt. JG December 16th 07 06:40 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
wrote in message
...
Paid for.


Bloody Horvath wrote:
Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.


I believe Terry K is English and does not put his beer in a cooler.

Also, the issue of a self-filling cooler has already been addressed.
Pay attention!

DSK



If you're from California, it would be a self-fulfilling cooler... duhhh

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Alden Bugley December 16th 07 09:32 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Must you gay up everything that you post?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
Paid for.


Bloody Horvath wrote:
Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.


I believe Terry K is English and does not put his beer in a cooler.

Also, the issue of a self-filling cooler has already been addressed.
Pay attention!

DSK



If you're from California, it would be a self-fulfilling cooler... duhhh

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com






Bloody Horvath December 16th 07 09:53 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:05:52 -0800 (PST), wrote
this crap:

Paid for.


Bloody Horvath wrote:
Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.


I believe Terry K is English and does not put his beer in a cooler.

Also, the issue of a self-filling cooler has already been addressed.
Pay attention!



I have my crew fill the cooler.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Bloody Horvath December 16th 07 09:55 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 10:40:21 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


If you're from California, it would be a self-fulfilling cooler... duhhh



I thought you sissy Californians had to have a wine cooler.





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Capt. JG December 16th 07 10:58 PM

What is the perfect boat?
 
"Alden Bugley" wrote in message
...
Must you gay up everything that you post?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
Paid for.

Bloody Horvath wrote:
Jeez, Terry. You forgot the MOST important thing, especially for us
ex-military. A huge cooler for the beer.

I believe Terry K is English and does not put his beer in a cooler.

Also, the issue of a self-filling cooler has already been addressed.
Pay attention!

DSK



If you're from California, it would be a self-fulfilling cooler... duhhh

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


FOAD stalker... PLONK

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Bloody Horvath December 17th 07 01:51 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:58:43 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


FOAD stalker... PLONK



You plonked yerself? What a dumbass.






I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

OLIVER December 27th 07 01:45 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
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OLIVER December 27th 07 01:45 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Good day to you.

This is Oliver from HongKong Barry Inflatable boat Factory.

Here ,I want to introduce our product to your company,the boats are
made of Hypalon ,or PVC Korea these are two of the most best materials
in making the boats nowadays.you opinion on these two materials we
will appreciate.

The floor we will use Aluminum ,wooden,fiberglass.

please contact us use to know more about our
factory
www.barryinc.com.hk
As to our factory ,we welcome OEM orders.

I am sure our products will bring benefit to your company,which is
reasionable in price,high quality.

Any problems ,or any thing we can do for you, Just let us know.



www.barryinc.com.hk
Skype:oliverxsk
Msn:

Oliver

OLIVER December 27th 07 01:45 AM

What is the perfect boat?
 
Good day to you.

This is Oliver from HongKong Barry Inflatable boat Factory.

Here ,I want to introduce our product to your company,the boats are
made of Hypalon ,or PVC Korea these are two of the most best materials
in making the boats nowadays.you opinion on these two materials we
will appreciate.

The floor we will use Aluminum ,wooden,fiberglass.

please contact us use to know more about our
factory
www.barryinc.com.hk
As to our factory ,we welcome OEM orders.

I am sure our products will bring benefit to your company,which is
reasionable in price,high quality.

Any problems ,or any thing we can do for you, Just let us know.



www.barryinc.com.hk
Skype:oliverxsk
Msn:

Oliver


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