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Kenya (AP) — A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control
of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the
North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked off Somalia, the American
military said.
A helicopter flew from the USS James E. Williams to investigate a
phoned-in tip of a hijacked vessel, and demanded by bridge-to-bridge
radio that the pirates give up their weapons, the military said in a
statement.

The crew of the Dai Hong Dan then overwhelmed the hijackers, leaving
two pirates dead, according to preliminary reports, and five captured,
the military said.

Three seriously injured crewmembers were brought aboard the Williams,
the statement said. The pirates remained on the Dai Hong Dan, which
the crew was returning to the port of Mogadishu.

A U.S. Navy spokeswoman said piracy was a scourge in Somalia's waters,
and American ships were available to intercede.

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Horn of Africa | Somali government | Andrew Mwangura
"When we get a distress call, we help," said Cmdr. Lydia Robertson of
the U.S. Fifth Fleet told The Associated Press by telephone from
Manama, Bahrain.

Geoff Morrell, a spokesman for the U.S. Defense Department, said
piracy off the Horn of Africa is a concern because "you're talking
about an area that has seen greater terrorist involvement."

It's logical, Morrell said, that the military would want to know "what
is being transported on the high seas and who is out there operating
and if they have nothing but the best intentions in mind."

Andrew Mwangura, program coordinator of the Seafarers Assistance
Program, said an estimated 22 crewmembers were aboard the North
Korea-flagged vessel that gunmen seized late Monday in Somali waters.
His group independently monitors piracy in the region. Workers at the
Mogadishu port said the vessel delivered a load of sugar from India.

An international watchdog reported this month that pirate attacks
worldwide jumped 14% in the first nine months of 2007, with the
biggest increases in the poorly policed waters of Somalia and Nigeria.

Reported attacks in Somali waters rose to 26, up from eight a year
earlier, the London-based International Maritime Bureau said through
its piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

The U.S. Navy said ships in a coalition monitoring the waters near
Somalia were also following a hijacked Japanese vessel in those
waters, and that four other boats are still controlled by pirates near
Somalia.

Somalia has had 16 years of violence and anarchy, and is now led by a
government battling to establish authority even in the capital. Its
coasts are virtually unpoliced.

Piracy off Somalia increased this year after Ethiopian forces backing
Somali government troops ousted an Islamic militia in December, said
Mwangura.

During the six months that the Council of Islamic Courts ruled most of
southern Somalia, where Somali pirates are based, piracy abated,
Mwangura said.

At one point, the Islamic group said it was sending scores of fighters
to crack down on pirates there. Islamic fighters even stormed a
hijacked, UAE-registered ship and recaptured it after a gunbattle in
which pirates — but no crewmembers — were reportedly wounded.

The Somali capital has become especially unsafe in recent days, with
fighting over the weekend between an Islamic militia and government
forces backed by Ethiopian troops. The U.N. refugee agency said
Tuesday around 36,000 people have been driven from their homes in what
locals said was the worst fighting in months, adding to the tens of
thousands who fled the capital earlier this year.

Somalia's president named Salim Aliyow Ibrow, a former deputy prime
minister, as caretaker prime minister, a day after the outgoing
premier lost a power struggle in the government and resigned.

By law, President Abdullahi Yusuf must name a permanent prime minister
within 30 days of the resignation.

The new prime minister struck a conciliatory tone Tuesday, calling for
an end to the country's crisis

"The time of fighting has ended, and we are in the season of
reconciliation," he told The Associated Press.

But hundreds more families around the city's main market were
preparing to flee the capital on Tuesday, loading trucks, buses and
donkey carts with their belongings, said Jennifer Pagonis, spokeswoman
for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

"They're really rather confused about where to go: whether to stay,
whether to leave the city entirely or whether to relocate to another
part of the city," she told reporters in Geneva, Switzerland.





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Kenya (AP) - A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control
of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the
North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked off Somalia, the American
military said.
A helicopter flew from the USS James E. Williams to investigate a
phoned-in tip of a hijacked vessel, and demanded by bridge-to-bridge
radio that the pirates give up their weapons, the military said in a
statement.

The crew of the Dai Hong Dan then overwhelmed the hijackers, leaving
two pirates dead, according to preliminary reports, and five captured,
the military said.

Three seriously injured crewmembers were brought aboard the Williams,
the statement said. The pirates remained on the Dai Hong Dan, which
the crew was returning to the port of Mogadishu.

A U.S. Navy spokeswoman said piracy was a scourge in Somalia's waters,
and American ships were available to intercede.

FIND MORE STORIES IN: PM | Somalia | Mogadishu | Somali | US Navy |
Horn of Africa | Somali government | Andrew Mwangura
"When we get a distress call, we help," said Cmdr. Lydia Robertson of
the U.S. Fifth Fleet told The Associated Press by telephone from
Manama, Bahrain.

Geoff Morrell, a spokesman for the U.S. Defense Department, said
piracy off the Horn of Africa is a concern because "you're talking
about an area that has seen greater terrorist involvement."

It's logical, Morrell said, that the military would want to know "what
is being transported on the high seas and who is out there operating
and if they have nothing but the best intentions in mind."

Andrew Mwangura, program coordinator of the Seafarers Assistance
Program, said an estimated 22 crewmembers were aboard the North
Korea-flagged vessel that gunmen seized late Monday in Somali waters.
His group independently monitors piracy in the region. Workers at the
Mogadishu port said the vessel delivered a load of sugar from India.

An international watchdog reported this month that pirate attacks
worldwide jumped 14% in the first nine months of 2007, with the
biggest increases in the poorly policed waters of Somalia and Nigeria.

Reported attacks in Somali waters rose to 26, up from eight a year
earlier, the London-based International Maritime Bureau said through
its piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

The U.S. Navy said ships in a coalition monitoring the waters near
Somalia were also following a hijacked Japanese vessel in those
waters, and that four other boats are still controlled by pirates near
Somalia.

Somalia has had 16 years of violence and anarchy, and is now led by a
government battling to establish authority even in the capital. Its
coasts are virtually unpoliced.

Piracy off Somalia increased this year after Ethiopian forces backing
Somali government troops ousted an Islamic militia in December, said
Mwangura.

During the six months that the Council of Islamic Courts ruled most of
southern Somalia, where Somali pirates are based, piracy abated,
Mwangura said.

At one point, the Islamic group said it was sending scores of fighters
to crack down on pirates there. Islamic fighters even stormed a
hijacked, UAE-registered ship and recaptured it after a gunbattle in
which pirates - but no crewmembers - were reportedly wounded.

The Somali capital has become especially unsafe in recent days, with
fighting over the weekend between an Islamic militia and government
forces backed by Ethiopian troops. The U.N. refugee agency said
Tuesday around 36,000 people have been driven from their homes in what
locals said was the worst fighting in months, adding to the tens of
thousands who fled the capital earlier this year.

Somalia's president named Salim Aliyow Ibrow, a former deputy prime
minister, as caretaker prime minister, a day after the outgoing
premier lost a power struggle in the government and resigned.

By law, President Abdullahi Yusuf must name a permanent prime minister
within 30 days of the resignation.

The new prime minister struck a conciliatory tone Tuesday, calling for
an end to the country's crisis

"The time of fighting has ended, and we are in the season of
reconciliation," he told The Associated Press.

But hundreds more families around the city's main market were
preparing to flee the capital on Tuesday, loading trucks, buses and
donkey carts with their belongings, said Jennifer Pagonis, spokeswoman
for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees.

"They're really rather confused about where to go: whether to stay,
whether to leave the city entirely or whether to relocate to another
part of the city," she told reporters in Geneva, Switzerland.



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I've read that Russian and Israeli ships never get
attacked.

Clearly, those who fight back and win, don't bother
to report those facts.

It is about time piracy is attacked in the most direct
method possible--military might!

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Kenya (AP) - A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control
of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the
North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked off Somalia, the American
military said.
A helicopter flew from the USS James E. Williams to investigate a
phoned-in tip of a hijacked vessel, and demanded by bridge-to-bridge
radio that the pirates give up their weapons, the military said in a
statement.
post.

Piracy in Somali waters is nothing new. The island of Socotra, off the Horn
of Africa was poined out to me as a hotbed of pirates more than 50 years
ago when we passed it in a ship of the Royal Navy.
But I do think he hijacking of large merchant ships is a newer development.

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Digg del.icio.us Newsvine Reddit Facebook What's this? NAIROBI,
Kenya (AP) - A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control
of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the
North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked off Somalia, the American
military said.

You wouldn't think a North Korean flagged ship would be a target for
piracy.... for that matter, I didn't realize that North Korea had a
merchant marine.

"Edgar" wrote:
Piracy in Somali waters is nothing new. The island of Socotra, off the Horn
of Africa was poined out to me as a hotbed of pirates more than 50 years
ago when we passed it in a ship of the Royal Navy.
But I do think he hijacking of large merchant ships is a newer development.

It's a bad sign, yeah. But it's all about money. When $10k buys a gang
of thugs who will gladly take over a $10M ship & cargo, the profits
are such that it's a *very* tempting game.

The usual pirate gang is pretty dumb, and not that difficult to
dissuade. OTOH there are gangs out there (around Indonesia for
example) that have insiders in shipping & brokerage offices. They know
exactly what a ship's cargo & route are, and in some cases have
stooges among the crew. Difficult to fight, and when caught, they buy
off the judge(s).

Once they've pocketed a few hundred million, guys in this business
usually retire and go into politics ;)

DSK

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Kenya (AP) - A U.S. Navy destroyer helped sailors who retook control
of their vessel Tuesday in a deadly battle with pirates after the
North Korean-flagged ship was hijacked off Somalia, the American
military said.

You wouldn't think a North Korean flagged ship would be a target for
piracy.... for that matter, I didn't realize that North Korea had a
merchant marine.

I believe they do, and if they're transporting nuclear material, they just
might be a target. I think we should give them US Navy protection. Oh wait,
that's not right.


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Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their on a mission of
help.

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...
Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their on a mission of
help.



Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite the right answer...

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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:15:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their on a mission of
help.

Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?




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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:15:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"

wrote this crap:

Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait
until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's
bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their
on a mission of
help.

Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

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the *real* pirates are in Washington DC.

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On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:33:27 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this
crap:

the *real* pirates are in Washington DC.


Yeah. They're called, "Democrats."





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In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:15:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"

wrote this crap:

Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait
until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's
bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their
on a mission of
help.

Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s of innocent people are killed. Got it.

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In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:
the *real* pirates are in Washington DC.


Hard to disagree... on both sides of the isle.

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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:56:35 -0000, lid (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s of innocent people are killed. Got it.

After our military has had some of their dead dragged through the
streets? Hell Yes!

Go Buckeyes!




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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...


Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't
quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s
of innocent people are killed. Got it.


Nobody is truly innocent.

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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:33:27 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote this
crap:

the *real* pirates are in Washington DC.


Yeah. They're called, "Democrats."


No, they're called ''politicians''. They're all a bunch
of rat-*******, money grubbing thieves.

SBV

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Ringmaster wrote:
Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their on a mission of
help.

If we had done so the day after, or a few days after, I would agree.

How many years has it been now?

Do you train a child by waiting until he's 10 years old, then giving
all the paddlings he's earned at once?

Besides, Somalia isn't a country and probably 90% of the people who
lived there were more horrified by the atrocities than you were....
they were (and still are) depending on outsider's help. The region
called Somalia has been in anarchy for about two generations now.

DSK

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"Capt. JG" wrote
So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s
of innocent people are killed.


"Scotty" wrote:
Nobody is truly innocent.

Exactly. And if it bothers your conscience, just remember that God
does it all the time.

Besides, Somalians have nothing to contribute and their land would
make a good nature preserve.

The same is true of many people in the US but it's difficult to get
the right ones to gather in the same place at the same time for
efficient & convenient bombing.

DSK

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In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...


Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't
quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s
of innocent people are killed. Got it.


Nobody is truly innocent.

Ah... original sin.... ok

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In article . com,
wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote
So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s
of innocent people are killed.


"Scotty" wrote:
Nobody is truly innocent.

Exactly. And if it bothers your conscience, just remember that God
does it all the time.

Besides, Somalians have nothing to contribute and their land would
make a good nature preserve.

The same is true of many people in the US but it's difficult to get
the right ones to gather in the same place at the same time for
efficient & convenient bombing.

DSK



I hate being wrong...

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:15:28 -0700, "Capt. JG"

wrote this crap:

Somalia should be blown into oblivion. I can't wait
until we get
revenge for the US soldiers who were killed and who's
bodies were
dragged thru the streets. This was after going their
on a mission of
help.

Probably killing 1000s of innocent civilians isn't quite
the right answer...

I suppose you want to hold hands with them?


and sing kumbaya....

So, what you're saying is that it's ok with you if 1000s of innocent
people are killed. Got it.

..... if it's the right thousands.

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wrote in message news:
The same is true of many people in the US but it's
difficult to get
the right ones to gather in the same place at the same
time for
efficient & convenient bombing.


A good start would be the DNC.

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On Nov 4, 12:08 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
wrote in message news:
The same is true of many people in the US but it's
difficult to get
the right ones to gather in the same place at the same
time for
efficient & convenient bombing.

A good start would be the DNC.


It would be better to bury them up to their necks at low tide.

DSK

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In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:

wrote in message news:
The same is true of many people in the US but it's
difficult to get
the right ones to gather in the same place at the same
time for
efficient & convenient bombing.


A good start would be the DNC and RNC.




I agree!

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

I hate being wrong...



But you do it so well