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[email protected] October 29th 07 05:39 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 
While I was at the coast working on my 28' S2, I was suddenly invited
to go sailing on an F31 tri. We had about 12 kts wind and it was a
blast. 15 kts on a sailboat, waaaaaaay cool. I havent had such a
good time sailing in a long time and this puzzled me for nearly 48
hours till I realized why.
I almost never go out on other peoples boats meaning I am always the
captain so i have to know what I am doing, where i am going, where the
shoals are, what my sails are doing, what my guests are doing, what my
kids are doing, etc. In this case, I knew I was clueless about
handling the tri so I just did as I was told and tried to be helpful.
I didnt worry about anything but enjoyed the trip. I did know the
captain was very knowledgeable so I could relax and talk to others.
So, I suddenly understand why I like to sail by myself too, no
responsibility for other people on the boat. Anybody else feel this
way?

Frogwatch


Joe October 29th 07 06:40 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 
On Oct 29, 12:39 pm, wrote:
While I was at the coast working on my 28' S2, I was suddenly invited
to go sailing on an F31 tri. We had about 12 kts wind and it was a
blast. 15 kts on a sailboat, waaaaaaay cool. I havent had such a
good time sailing in a long time and this puzzled me for nearly 48
hours till I realized why.
I almost never go out on other peoples boats meaning I am always the
captain so i have to know what I am doing, where i am going, where the
shoals are, what my sails are doing, what my guests are doing, what my
kids are doing, etc. In this case, I knew I was clueless about
handling the tri so I just did as I was told and tried to be helpful.
I didnt worry about anything but enjoyed the trip. I did know the
captain was very knowledgeable so I could relax and talk to others.
So, I suddenly understand why I like to sail by myself too, no
responsibility for other people on the boat. Anybody else feel this
way?

Frogwatch


No....you passanger.

Joe



Capt. JG October 29th 07 06:41 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
While I was at the coast working on my 28' S2, I was suddenly invited
to go sailing on an F31 tri. We had about 12 kts wind and it was a
blast. 15 kts on a sailboat, waaaaaaay cool. I havent had such a
good time sailing in a long time and this puzzled me for nearly 48
hours till I realized why.
I almost never go out on other peoples boats meaning I am always the
captain so i have to know what I am doing, where i am going, where the
shoals are, what my sails are doing, what my guests are doing, what my
kids are doing, etc. In this case, I knew I was clueless about
handling the tri so I just did as I was told and tried to be helpful.
I didnt worry about anything but enjoyed the trip. I did know the
captain was very knowledgeable so I could relax and talk to others.
So, I suddenly understand why I like to sail by myself too, no
responsibility for other people on the boat. Anybody else feel this
way?

Frogwatch



Definitely. I get a bit nervous on other people's boats unless I have an
idea about their abilities or I've sailed with them previously. I've been in
a couple of situations where the owner or charterer didn't have a clew or
was dangerous.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Thom Stewart October 30th 07 04:53 AM

Freedom from responsibility
 
Ah Yes,

You've learned the secret of singlehanding. It's a feeling! A oneness
with sea, boat, wind, nature. It really can't be explained. It needs to
be felt.

CONGRATULATION!!



Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 30th 07 07:55 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 

"Thom Stewart" pecked away on a Web TV keyboard balanced
on top of his huge tummy while reaching up for it at arm's length and
composed in message ...
the following crock of hock:
Ah Yes,

You've learned the secret of singlehanding. It's a feeling! A oneness
with sea, boat, wind, nature. It really can't be explained. It needs to
be felt.

CONGRATULATION!!


How would you know about it, Thom? How did you ever enjoy sailing with that
big diesel running constantly? And with a crew of transgender candidate
homos? Gives a whole new meaning to the term, "single handing."

Wilbur Hubbard











JML Sigs



Big Jon October 31st 07 12:35 AM

Freedom from responsibility
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Thom Stewart" pecked away on a Web TV keyboard
balanced on top of his huge tummy while reaching up for it at arm's length
and composed in message
... the following crock
of hock:
Ah Yes,

You've learned the secret of singlehanding. It's a feeling! A oneness
with sea, boat, wind, nature. It really can't be explained. It needs to
be felt.

CONGRATULATION!!


How would you know about it, Thom? How did you ever enjoy sailing with
that big diesel running constantly?


He had his hearing aid tuned to eleminate the sounds of the deisel.


And with a crew of transgender candidate homos? Gives a whole new meaning
to the term, "single handing."


That was boob****. Not ole Thom too?


Wilbur Hubbard











JML Sigs




[email protected] October 31st 07 02:23 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 
Frogwatch wrote
While I was at the coast working on my 28' S2, I was suddenly invited
to go sailing on an F31 tri. We had about 12 kts wind and it was a
blast. 15 kts on a sailboat, waaaaaaay cool. I havent had such a
good time sailing in a long time and this puzzled me for nearly 48
hours till I realized why.


Well, a multihuller would say that it was because cats & tris are just
more fun, period.


I almost never go out on other peoples boats meaning I am always the
captain so i have to know what I am doing, where i am going, where the
shoals are, what my sails are doing, what my guests are doing, what my
kids are doing, etc. In this case, I knew I was clueless about
handling the tri so I just did as I was told and tried to be helpful.


Hmmm.....
sailing a tri is pretty much like sailing any other boat. There are a
few minor differences, the major difference is the greater apparent
wind and the lack of good steering characteristics. But only the
skipper has to worry about that. ;)


I didnt worry about anything but enjoyed the trip. I did know the
captain was very knowledgeable so I could relax and talk to others.
So, I suddenly understand why I like to sail by myself too, no
responsibility for other people on the boat. Anybody else feel this
way?



I just like to get out on the water, period. For example, right now we
are cruising in a motorboat; I have gotten in a few pretty good sails
the past year on OPBs; also I really enjoy rowing our dinghy around
the creeks & coves we anchor in.

Sailing on OPBs is a lot of fun; and I appreciate not having to do the
work on the boat.... OTOH I also rarely see a boat that couldn't use
improvements in rig or maintainence.

This summer in Canada, I stopped in at a youth sailing center to chat
with some people, turned out I had met some of them before and got an
invitation to join in. I gave a roll-tacking seminar and got in some
races. I don't know if it was more relaxing but it was a lot of fun.


"Capt. JG" wrote:
Definitely. I get a bit nervous on other people's boats unless I have an
idea about their abilities or I've sailed with them previously. I've been in
a couple of situations where the owner or charterer didn't have a clew or
was dangerous.


That's when you take command.

Subtly, of course ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Capt. JG October 31st 07 05:08 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
Frogwatch wrote
While I was at the coast working on my 28' S2, I was suddenly invited
to go sailing on an F31 tri. We had about 12 kts wind and it was a
blast. 15 kts on a sailboat, waaaaaaay cool. I havent had such a
good time sailing in a long time and this puzzled me for nearly 48
hours till I realized why.


Well, a multihuller would say that it was because cats & tris are just
more fun, period.


I almost never go out on other peoples boats meaning I am always the
captain so i have to know what I am doing, where i am going, where the
shoals are, what my sails are doing, what my guests are doing, what my
kids are doing, etc. In this case, I knew I was clueless about
handling the tri so I just did as I was told and tried to be helpful.


Hmmm.....
sailing a tri is pretty much like sailing any other boat. There are a
few minor differences, the major difference is the greater apparent
wind and the lack of good steering characteristics. But only the
skipper has to worry about that. ;)


I didnt worry about anything but enjoyed the trip. I did know the
captain was very knowledgeable so I could relax and talk to others.
So, I suddenly understand why I like to sail by myself too, no
responsibility for other people on the boat. Anybody else feel this
way?



I just like to get out on the water, period. For example, right now we
are cruising in a motorboat; I have gotten in a few pretty good sails
the past year on OPBs; also I really enjoy rowing our dinghy around
the creeks & coves we anchor in.

Sailing on OPBs is a lot of fun; and I appreciate not having to do the
work on the boat.... OTOH I also rarely see a boat that couldn't use
improvements in rig or maintainence.

This summer in Canada, I stopped in at a youth sailing center to chat
with some people, turned out I had met some of them before and got an
invitation to join in. I gave a roll-tacking seminar and got in some
races. I don't know if it was more relaxing but it was a lot of fun.


"Capt. JG" wrote:
Definitely. I get a bit nervous on other people's boats unless I have an
idea about their abilities or I've sailed with them previously. I've been
in
a couple of situations where the owner or charterer didn't have a clew or
was dangerous.


That's when you take command.

Subtly, of course ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Yeah, like grabbing the helm and screaming get off the f*cking boat you
idiot! Next you're going to tell me that's not subtle enough.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Wilbur Hubbard[_2_] October 31st 07 08:38 PM

Freedom from responsibility
 

"Big Jon" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Thom Stewart" pecked away on a Web TV keyboard
balanced on top of his huge tummy while reaching up for it at arm's
length and composed in message
... the following crock
of hock:
Ah Yes,

You've learned the secret of singlehanding. It's a feeling! A oneness
with sea, boat, wind, nature. It really can't be explained. It needs to
be felt.

CONGRATULATION!!


How would you know about it, Thom? How did you ever enjoy sailing with
that big diesel running constantly?


He had his hearing aid tuned to eleminate the sounds of the deisel.


And with a crew of transgender candidate homos? Gives a whole new meaning
to the term, "single handing."


That was boob****. Not ole Thom too?


Old Thom latched onto a weirdo named Loree Thomas who posted here for a
month or two. Loree still had a penis but had female breasts, too. But did
not have any plans in the near future to get the penis cut off and the
vagina inserted. Old Thom sailed with him/her several times. Bobsprit never
did anything that sick.

Wilbur Hubbard



[email protected] November 1st 07 07:21 AM

Freedom from responsibility
 
.... I've been
in
a couple of situations where the owner or charterer didn't have a clew or
was dangerous.



That's when you take command.


Subtly, of course ;)



"Capt. JG" wrote:
Yeah, like grabbing the helm and screaming get off the f*cking boat you
idiot! Next you're going to tell me that's not subtle enough.


That's more subtle than using a gun, yes.

Generally, I try to work in a series of suggestions. When the owner of
the boat doesn't have a clue and knows he's getting into trouble, and
one of my suggestions work, he's relieved to take what are basically
orders after that.

The one time when that didn't work, I just put on my life jacket and
remarked that we were going to hit the bricks close enough to the bus
stop for me to be home in time for dinner. We were, too. That guy
ended up crewing for me for a few years.

DSK






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