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What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop?
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On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote:
What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com.. .. On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good anti-fouling paint for' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Interlux what? |
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On Sep 28, 8:07 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com.. . On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good anti-fouling paint for' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Interlux what? paint |
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That's a funny question for me. This year at the Glad Boat Yard in Florida,
Dad and I bought some hugely expensive prop paint, while a number of others did something crazy. They bought a couple Jiffy markers and colored the prop with four or five coats. The weird part is they seemed to end up with less growth on their props than we did. It seems someone discovered that after sending their prop to the prop-shop, the techs wrote some kind of code number on the prop to identify the prop. Funny enough someone noticed that the only part of the prop with no growth was the part written on with Jiffy marker. So...for what it's worth, I'll be Jiffy marking mine this year. Glenn. s/v Seawing "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Joe |
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On Sep 28, 8:19 am, Joe wrote:
On Sep 28, 8:07 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com.. . On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good anti-fouling paint for' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Interlux what? paint Sorry....just coat it with the same paint you used to do your bottom. It dont matter anyway..it's not going to last long anyway.. I tried everything Scotty, and nothing last more than 1 year. After a year you need to jump in and scrape the wheel often. Joe |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:57:23 -0400, "Scotty" wrote:
What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? Nobody paints bronze. No real point to it. Bronze is an alloy of, mostly tin and copper, both of which are used as the active ingredient in anti-fouling paint. I have seen some bare stainless props as well, but I am a fresh water sailor, and we don't have to contend with real marine wildlife. As for aluminum, probably Awlgrip or maybe epoxy. Antifouling paint is supposed to slowly dissolve, On a spinning prop it dissolves[ ablate if you like] rather too quickly, so they don't use it. Casady |
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On Sep 28, 8:23 am, "Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)"
wrote: That's a funny question for me. This year at the Glad Boat Yard in Florida, Dad and I bought some hugely expensive prop paint, while a number of others did something crazy. They bought a couple Jiffy markers and colored the prop with four or five coats. The weird part is they seemed to end up with less growth on their props than we did. It seems someone discovered that after sending their prop to the prop-shop, the techs wrote some kind of code number on the prop to identify the prop. Funny enough someone noticed that the only part of the prop with no growth was the part written on with Jiffy marker. So...for what it's worth, I'll be Jiffy marking mine this year. Glenn. s/v Seawing "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Let us know how it works out. Seems I've heard the Marks-o-lot tale too. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
Sorry....just coat it with the same paint you used to do your bottom. NO! DO NOT DO THIS I'm surprised at Joe's suggestion, which will cause electrolysis corrosion on the prop. If you're going to paint your prop with anti- fouling, you need to either prime it first OR use a non-metal-based anti-fouling. It dont matter anyway..it's not going to last long anyway.. I tried everything Scotty, and nothing last more than 1 year. After a year you need to jump in and scrape the wheel often. Barnacles won't grow on a prop that gets run every week or so. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Glenn \(s/v Seawing\)" wrote:
That's a funny question for me. This year at the Glad Boat Yard in Florida, Dad and I bought some hugely expensive prop paint, while a number of others did something crazy. They bought a couple Jiffy markers and colored the prop with four or five coats. The weird part is they seemed to end up with less growth on their props than we did. We've done the same thing. It works, sort of, but not as well as painting the prop thickly with liquid marker ink. It's hard to find but not very expensive. It seems someone discovered that after sending their prop to the prop-shop, the techs wrote some kind of code number on the prop to identify the prop. Funny enough someone noticed that the only part of the prop with no growth was the part written on with Jiffy marker. Heard the same story, only it was the Hattaras plant that noticed the lack of growth where the part number was written. DSK |
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wrote in message ups.com... Joe wrote: Sorry....just coat it with the same paint you used to do your bottom. NO! DO NOT DO THIS I'm surprised at Joe's suggestion, which will cause electrolysis corrosion on the prop. If you're going to paint your prop with anti- fouling, you need to either prime it first OR use a non-metal-based anti-fouling. I guess it just depends on the prop material and the type of paint. It dont matter anyway..it's not going to last long anyway.. I tried everything Scotty, and nothing last more than 1 year. After a year you need to jump in and scrape the wheel often. Barnacles won't grow on a prop that gets run every week or so. You don't live in an area of active barnacle growth, then. Here on the Central East coast of Florida, 3 days can have small barnacles attaching themselves. Even with good bottom paint, if you want to win races, you wipe the bottom before every race. |
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I'm surprised at Joe's suggestion, which will cause electrolysis
corrosion on the prop. If you're going to paint your prop with anti- fouling, you need to either prime it first OR use a non-metal-based anti-fouling. "Sammy" wrote: I guess it just depends on the prop material and the type of paint. Yep, that's what I said ;) Barnacles won't grow on a prop that gets run every week or so. You don't live in an area of active barnacle growth, then. That would be incorrect. Barnacles grow just fine in our home waters. Here on the Central East coast of Florida, 3 days can have small barnacles attaching themselves. Sure, but how small? And how much hard shell growth at the point of attachment? If the prop is run up to speed every week, then you will see only small barnacles around the hub pretty much indefinitely. Try it. Even with good bottom paint, if you want to win races, you wipe the bottom before every race. Or dry sail.... but that's true everywhere, even in fresh water. All kinds of stuff besides barnacles grows on the hull of a a boat, and none of it makes the boat go faster. DSK |
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On Sep 28, 9:45 am, wrote:
Joe wrote: Sorry....just coat it with the same paint you used to do your bottom. NO! DO NOT DO THIS Ohh ...OK Doug you're correct for FG boats. I always use ablatives and never NEVER any antifoulants with metals like copper. I also put on an epoxy barrier first..it still wears off in no time attall. Joe I'm surprised at Joe's suggestion, which will cause electrolysis corrosion on the prop. If you're going to paint your prop with anti- fouling, you need to either prime it first OR use a non-metal-based anti-fouling. It dont matter anyway..it's not going to last long anyway.. I tried everything Scotty, and nothing last more than 1 year. After a year you need to jump in and scrape the wheel often. Barnacles won't grow on a prop that gets run every week or so. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... On Sep 28, 8:19 am, Joe wrote: On Sep 28, 8:07 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message roups.com.. . On Sep 28, 7:57 am, "Scotty" wrote: What's good anti-fouling paint for' a prop? SBV you should paint the "top" of the prop too. I use interlux. Interlux what? paint Sorry....just coat it with the same paint you used to do your bottom. It dont matter anyway..it's not going to last long anyway.. I tried everything Scotty, and nothing last more than 1 year. After a year you need to jump in and scrape the wheel often. Joe If that long... I don't bother. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:57:23 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? You paint your prop? What for? Nothing grows on bronze. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Prop speed.
After 20 years I finally found something that works on inboards. READ THE DIRECTIONS CAREFULLY.... IT WORKS ONLY IF USED AS DIRECTED. Mine last about 12 mos in S Florida Bloody Horvath wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:57:23 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? You paint your prop? What for? Nothing grows on bronze. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop?
OzOne wrote: Nothing...just use the bloody thing. heh that's what *I* tried to tell 'em, but would they listen to me... no- oo DSK |
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On Sep 28, 9:39 pm, wrote:
What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? OzOne wrote: Nothing...just use the bloody thing. heh that's what *I* tried to tell 'em, but would they listen to me... no- oo DSK You still need to paint it with a primer and then with special antifouling for props which is harder than normal antifouling paint. And of course you need to run the prop once a week as some guys said! And yes Bronze props Do get barnacles if you dont run it!!! Stelios www.sig.gr |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:36:06 -0400, Ed wrote this
crap: Prop speed. I don't get it. After your prop folds up, how is the paint going to make it faster? What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? You paint your prop? What for? Nothing grows on bronze. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:56:33 -0700, "www.sig.gr"
wrote this crap: You still need to paint it with a primer and then with special antifouling for props which is harder than normal antifouling paint. And of course you need to run the prop once a week as some guys said! And yes Bronze props Do get barnacles if you dont run it!!! Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. Today's bottom paint is copper based. Isn't your prop made out of an alloy of copper and tin? I've never seen any barnacles on any props of any boats in my marina. No barnacles. Not one. No zebra mussels either. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:56:33 -0700, "www.sig.gr" wrote this crap: You still need to paint it with a primer and then with special antifouling for props which is harder than normal antifouling paint. And of course you need to run the prop once a week as some guys said! And yes Bronze props Do get barnacles if you dont run it!!! Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. Today's bottom paint is copper based. Isn't your prop made out of an alloy of copper and tin? I've never seen any barnacles on any props of any boats in my marina. No barnacles. Not one. No zebra mussels either. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. When we were still in Michigan, even using a copper based bottom paint (VC 17) and having a bronze prop, we still had a few zebra mussels at the end of wach season...and I do not believe there are barnacles in fresh watr so you don't have to worry about that at all...Now we hire a diver to dive down and scrape several times a year...the Neuse is a dirty old river, fill of things like physteria (sp) from all the hog farming upriver...not going to get in there if it's not an emergency... |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. No, barnacles will grow on copper and tin. Metal helped against barnacles, weed, wood rot, etc., but the real reason was to keep sea worms out of the wood. |
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"katy" wrote in message ... When we were still in Michigan, even using a copper based bottom paint (VC 17) and having a bronze prop, we still had a few zebra mussels at the end of wach season...and I do not believe there are barnacles in fresh watr so you don't have to worry about that at all...Now we hire a diver to dive down and scrape several times a year...the Neuse is a dirty old river, fill of things like physteria (sp) from all the hog farming upriver...not going to get in there if it's not an emergency... You are not even safe in a lake it would seem.On our news today there is a story about six people dying in USA because of some amoeba that gets up your nose while you swim and theneats away at your brain. Unfortunately they did not say which lake it was-or if other lakes carry this pest. |
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"katysails" wrote
When we were still in Michigan, even using a copper based bottom paint (VC 17) and having a bronze prop, we still had a few zebra mussels at the end of wach season...and I do not believe there are barnacles in fresh watr so you don't have to worry about that at all... At least the zebra mussels clean the water. .... Now we hire a diver to dive down and scrape several times a year... Good. It's not that expensive anyway. ...the Neuse is a dirty old river, fill of things like physteria (sp) from all the hog farming upriver...not going to get in there if it's not an emergency... I worry less about physteria than I do about snakes. Did you know that eastern NC has every kind of poisonous snake native to this continent, except for desert sidewinders? And every last one of them loves to swim under water. "Edgar" wrote: You are not even safe in a lake it would seem.On our news today there is a story about six people dying in USA because of some amoeba that gets up your nose while you swim and theneats away at your brain. Those people just watch too much TV and now they're trying to blame the effects on amoeba. DSK |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:27:31 -0400, katy
wrote this crap: Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. Today's bottom paint is copper based. Isn't your prop made out of an alloy of copper and tin? I've never seen any barnacles on any props of any boats in my marina. No barnacles. Not one. No zebra mussels either. When we were still in Michigan, even using a copper based bottom paint (VC 17) and having a bronze prop, we still had a few zebra mussels at the end of wach season... I use VC 17 and never get zebra mussels where it is painted. Only on places where there is no paint, like at the top of the rudder, or on the plastic thru-hull fittings. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:19:14 GMT, "jlrogers"
wrote this crap: Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. No barnacles will grow on copper and tin. I agree with that. Metal helped against barnacles, weed, wood rot, etc., but the real reason was to keep sea worms out of the wood. Bottom paint is copper based to keep off barnacles. I never get any barnacles on the bottom of my boat. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:41:47 +0200, "Edgar"
wrote this crap: You are not even safe in a lake it would seem.On our news today there is a story about six people dying in USA because of some amoeba that gets up your nose while you swim and theneats away at your brain. Unfortunately they did not say which lake it was-or if other lakes carry this pest. http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...kes/index.html After doing more tests, doctors said Aaron probably picked up the amoeba a week before while swimming in the balmy shallows of Lake Havasu, a popular man-made lake on the Colorado River between Arizona and California. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:19:14 GMT, "jlrogers" wrote this crap: Really? I never get barnacles on mine. Boat builders used to put tin or copper on the bottom of boats to keep off the barnacles, because barnacles wouldn't grow on those. No barnacles will grow on copper and tin. I agree with that. Metal helped against barnacles, weed, wood rot, etc., but the real reason was to keep sea worms out of the wood. Bottom paint is copper based to keep off barnacles. I never get any barnacles on the bottom of my boat. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. I repeat...your boat is in fresh water...there are no barnacles...only zebra mussels... |
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Barnacles won't grow on a prop that gets run every week or so.
I wish that were true. My boat gets launched in April. It gets "run" 2-3 times a week. By July I have a coral reef on the prop and shaft. What I cannot figure out is after I clean everything off the first time in July later dives under the boat and after the water has been warmer for a longer period of time I hardly have any growth on the prop. What's with that? |
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On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:07:13 -0400, katy
wrote this crap: Bottom paint is copper based to keep off barnacles. I never get any barnacles on the bottom of my boat. I repeat...your boat is in fresh water...there are no barnacles...only zebra mussels... I repeat. There are no barnacles on the bottom of my boat. There are no barnacles on any boat at my yacht club. What part of that don't you understand? I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:07:13 -0400, katy wrote this crap: Bottom paint is copper based to keep off barnacles. I never get any barnacles on the bottom of my boat. I repeat...your boat is in fresh water...there are no barnacles...only zebra mussels... I repeat. There are no barnacles on the bottom of my boat. There are no barnacles on any boat at my yacht club. What part of that don't you understand? I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. I repeat...you are stating over and over again the obvious...of course you have no barnacles...you are in fresh water....saying you have no barnacles is like saying you arte not pregnant....now do you understand? Your conversation is irrelevant... |
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Dave wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:07:13 -0400, katy said: I repeat...your boat is in fresh water...there are no barnacles...only zebra mussels... I think Horvath just destroyed whatever credibility he had. He had some? I missed it... |
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On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:06:28 -0400, katy
wrote this crap: I repeat. There are no barnacles on the bottom of my boat. There are no barnacles on any boat at my yacht club. What part of that don't you understand? I repeat...you are stating over and over again the obvious...of course you have no barnacles...you are in fresh water....saying you have no barnacles is like saying you arte not pregnant....now do you understand? Your conversation is irrelevant... You are a ****ing idiot. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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wrote in message ups.com... What's good for 'bottom painting' a prop? OzOne wrote: Nothing...just use the bloody thing. heh that's what *I* tried to tell 'em, but would they listen to me... no- oo I just 'filled up' yesterday, first time this season, took all of 6 gallons. So I guess 'just sailing' doesn't keep the critters off the prop? Scotty |
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"katy" wrote in message ... I repeat...you are stating over and over again the obvious...of course you have no barnacles...you are in fresh water....saying you have no barnacles is like saying you arte not pregnant....now do you understand? Your conversation is irrelevant... because Horvath is a virgin? |
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