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Capt. Rob September 6th 07 02:25 AM

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You won't get the details, so don't ask...but I'm honest enough to
say....

.... I fell off the J24 today messing around too much to prove how
great my balance was to the ladies aboard. They're probably still
laughing. My New Balance sailing shoes really let me down with a
splash!

Great sail anyway. Thankfully, my new Iphone was in my dry bag.



RB
35s5
NY


Joe September 6th 07 02:36 AM

An Honest Guy
 
On Sep 5, 8:25 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You won't get the details, so don't ask...but I'm honest enough to
say....

... I fell off the J24 today messing around too much to prove how
great my balance was to the ladies aboard. They're probably still
laughing. My New Balance sailing shoes really let me down with a
splash!

Great sail anyway. Thankfully, my new Iphone was in my dry bag.

RB
35s5
NY


Who hauled you back aboard?
Did they do a proper williamson turn?
Did they toss you a lifering, MOB pole?
Any infections from the LIS water yet?

Joe



Capt. JG September 6th 07 03:54 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Sep 5, 8:25 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You won't get the details, so don't ask...but I'm honest enough to
say....

... I fell off the J24 today messing around too much to prove how
great my balance was to the ladies aboard. They're probably still
laughing. My New Balance sailing shoes really let me down with a
splash!

Great sail anyway. Thankfully, my new Iphone was in my dry bag.

RB
35s5
NY


Who hauled you back aboard?
Did they do a proper williamson turn?
Did they toss you a lifering, MOB pole?
Any infections from the LIS water yet?

Joe




If sailing, a Williamson turn isn't appropriate.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Joe September 6th 07 03:51 PM

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On Sep 5, 9:54 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Sep 5, 8:25 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You won't get the details, so don't ask...but I'm honest enough to
say....


... I fell off the J24 today messing around too much to prove how
great my balance was to the ladies aboard. They're probably still
laughing. My New Balance sailing shoes really let me down with a
splash!


Great sail anyway. Thankfully, my new Iphone was in my dry bag.


RB
35s5
NY


Who hauled you back aboard?
Did they do a proper williamson turn?
Did they toss you a lifering, MOB pole?
Any infections from the LIS water yet?


Joe


If sailing, a Williamson turn isn't appropriate.

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I think that may depend on the wind direction and weather.

Whould you like to expand on that statement?

Joe


Capt. Rob September 6th 07 04:18 PM

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Joe, I only went in up to my chest and still had my forearms aboard. I
was able to get back on, quite undignified, but without assist. To her
credit, the girl at the helm took us upwind right away and stopped the
boat. Since I was dressed to swim and conditions were comfortable, a
williamson turn would not have been required.
Hey, we went swimming later anyway.

Since Gayanzy did not know any of this, his comment on the Williamson
turn, which is FINE for sailing in some conditions, though the Quick
turn ( a figure 8) is probably best.



RB
35s5
NY


Capt. JG September 6th 07 06:04 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Sep 5, 9:54 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Sep 5, 8:25 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
You won't get the details, so don't ask...but I'm honest enough to
say....


... I fell off the J24 today messing around too much to prove how
great my balance was to the ladies aboard. They're probably still
laughing. My New Balance sailing shoes really let me down with a
splash!


Great sail anyway. Thankfully, my new Iphone was in my dry bag.


RB
35s5
NY


Who hauled you back aboard?
Did they do a proper williamson turn?
Did they toss you a lifering, MOB pole?
Any infections from the LIS water yet?


Joe


If sailing, a Williamson turn isn't appropriate.

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"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

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I think that may depend on the wind direction and weather.

Whould you like to expand on that statement?

Joe



The Williamson Turn would be appropriate if you're under power. Otherwise,
you have to contend with the sails (mostly the boom) with potentially
inexperienced crew. You basically aren't taking into account wind, so
putting the rudder hard over and heading off at 60 degrees could easily
cause damage to your boat or others to go in the water. I wouldn't want to
try thinking about the dependencies during an emergency. Rather, I'd
concentrate on what I know will work.

For crew recovery in relatively protected waters, the figure 8 works well,
along with the Lifesling. The main difference between the two is that LS
recovery pretty much requires that the person be conscious. The F8 takes
longer. (Not sure why people insist on calling it the Quick Turn, since it
isn't that quick and it's confusing with other techniques.) Another COB
drill now being promoted is the Deep Broad Reach Return (at least that's
what I'm calling it). Basically you go to a broad reach immediately instead
of a beam reach, being careful not to jibe. Then you tack back to close
reach and stop next to the COB. This saves about 50% of the F8 time, and you
can immediately sail on a reciprocal course to intercept. It also doesn't
require jibing, which can be a hassle and/or dangerous.

Of course, there's a lot more to this. I'm sure we can both think of
situations where a WT would be useful under sail.

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