innie vs. outie?
Which do you prefer? and for what?
http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
innie vs. outie?
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg I prefer the dark blue...it doesn't show as much dirt....(smirk) |
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"katy" wrote in message
... Capt. JG wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg I prefer the dark blue...it doesn't show as much dirt....(smirk) It's actually black and white... not sure why the flash screwed up the colors. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg I can't tell which. They both look like they're turning into lizard faces. It makes me want to fly. Greg |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg I prefer the dark blue...it doesn't show as much dirt....(smirk) It's actually black and white... not sure why the flash screwed up the colors. well, tehn...I still prefer the darker one.... |
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On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. |
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Bart wrote:
On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. unless yourleft handed....and how do the wabbit get out of the hole? |
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"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com... On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. Ok, then what are the other ones called or used for? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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The innie and the outie are the same knot. If you consider that in
the photo, you cannot see where the three ends which go off screen are connected. One is free, one is bent up, one is bent down. Bent means connected in topology. That is the only difference between the two shown. Now consider whether you like them face up or face down, left or right handed, clockwise around the tree or counterclockwise, all the same. Nice thing about the bowline is it can be used any way. The only nicer knot is a commissionaire, or crochet chain. It can easily be done with one hand and a belay. Terry K |
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"Terry K" wrote in message
ups.com... The innie and the outie are the same knot. If you consider that in the photo, you cannot see where the three ends which go off screen are connected. One is free, one is bent up, one is bent down. Bent means connected in topology. That is the only difference between the two shown. Now consider whether you like them face up or face down, left or right handed, clockwise around the tree or counterclockwise, all the same. Nice thing about the bowline is it can be used any way. The only nicer knot is a commissionaire, or crochet chain. It can easily be done with one hand and a belay. Terry K Huh? I'm talking about the bitter ends not the bight. One is on the inside (innie) one is on the outside (outie). There's only one end that counts on a bowline. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. Ok, then what are the other ones called or used for? The Innie is the "standard" bowline but the Outie was preferred by the Dutch and Norwegian navies, and is called the "Dutch Bowline." It is also called the "cowboy bowline." Ashley and others claim its weaker, and therefore call it a "false bowline," but tests don't show much of a difference. There are some claims that the standard bowline can get untied if the free end bounces against whatever the bight is tied around, such as a post. Since a fairly long tail is needed to prevent this, this may be the reason the Dutch form is preferred sometimes. I've always used the standard, but a few days ago my lazy jib sheet fell off, so perhaps I'll shift to the Dutch. Off in the morning for a sail to P'town. |
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"jeff" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. Ok, then what are the other ones called or used for? The Innie is the "standard" bowline but the Outie was preferred by the Dutch and Norwegian navies, and is called the "Dutch Bowline." It is also called the "cowboy bowline." Ashley and others claim its weaker, and therefore call it a "false bowline," but tests don't show much of a difference. There are some claims that the standard bowline can get untied if the free end bounces against whatever the bight is tied around, such as a post. Since a fairly long tail is needed to prevent this, this may be the reason the Dutch form is preferred sometimes. I've always used the standard, but a few days ago my lazy jib sheet fell off, so perhaps I'll shift to the Dutch. it fell off? Off in the morning for a sail to P'town. Fair winds. Scotty |
innie vs. outie?
"jeff" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Bart" wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 25, 6:14 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: Which do you prefer? and for what? http://www.sailnow.com/gifs/innie-outie.jpg -- "j" ganz Innie are the only real bowlines. Ok, then what are the other ones called or used for? The Innie is the "standard" bowline but the Outie was preferred by the Dutch and Norwegian navies, and is called the "Dutch Bowline." It is also called the "cowboy bowline." Ashley and others claim its weaker, and therefore call it a "false bowline," but tests don't show much of a difference. There are some claims that the standard bowline can get untied if the free end bounces against whatever the bight is tied around, such as a post. Since a fairly long tail is needed to prevent this, this may be the reason the Dutch form is preferred sometimes. I've always used the standard, but a few days ago my lazy jib sheet fell off, so perhaps I'll shift to the Dutch. Off in the morning for a sail to P'town. Thank you for that explanation. I thought the outies were tied by left-handed people. |
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Scotty wrote:
.... I've always used the standard, but a few days ago my lazy jib sheet fell off, so perhaps I'll shift to the Dutch. it fell off? Yup. It was the first time the jib was used in a strong breeze after I had put it back on (it was off for some stitching) so maybe I did a bad job of tying. There's no way I would have mis-tied, but I might not have tightened it sufficiently. Also, the dog had been playing with the sheets, so maybe she somehow untied it! Off in the morning for a sail to P'town. Fair winds. Thanks. After a month in Maine I'm looking forward to no fog! |
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