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vio August 16th 07 10:18 PM

Literary Reference
 
In a short story, James Joyce makes reference to The Terrible
Patagonians ---- possibly a reference to the winds, possibly the
Roaring Forties, does anyone know if the Patagonians was a regular
namme for these winds?


Wilbur Hubbard August 16th 07 10:40 PM

Literary Reference
 

"vio" wrote in message
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In a short story, James Joyce makes reference to The Terrible
Patagonians ---- possibly a reference to the winds, possibly the
Roaring Forties, does anyone know if the Patagonians was a regular
namme for these winds?


I think it's from "Evelin." The terrible Patagonians refers to strong
winds in the Straits of Magellan and not to the natives. Who was it?
Black Jack who stalked Slocum there and was put off by tacks on the
deck. He was a terrible Patagonian but not what Joyce referred to.

Wilbur Hubbard


vio August 20th 07 09:03 PM

Literary Reference
 
On Aug 16, 5:40 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"vio" wrote in message

ups.com...

In a short story, James Joyce makes reference to The Terrible
Patagonians ---- possibly a reference to the winds, possibly the
Roaring Forties, does anyone know if the Patagonians was a regular
namme for these winds?


I think it's from "Evelin." The terrible Patagonians refers to strong
winds in the Straits of Magellan and not to the natives. Who was it?
Black Jack who stalked Slocum there and was put off by tacks on the
deck. He was a terrible Patagonian but not what Joyce referred to.

Yes, its from "Evelyn" -- a scholar friend is trying to determine if
the coinage is pure Joycean or was once in regular use. Thanks for the
info.




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