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Scout July 27th 07 10:55 AM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout



[email protected] July 27th 07 01:52 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 07, "Scout" wrote:
I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout


A J33? (or am I reading that wrong?) Why are you doing so much better
on Port tack than Starboard??? (or am I reading that wrong too?)
Rick ----just curious

Scout July 27th 07 03:22 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 8:52 am, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 07, "Scout" wrote:
I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout


A J33? (or am I reading that wrong?) Why are you doing so much better
on Port tack than Starboard??? (or am I reading that wrong too?)
Rick ----just curious


Thanks Rick
Seaward 26RK.
Difference if probably due to inexperience and me paying more
attention to speed than direction (was hitting 5 knots with wind on
stb side as opposed to 3 knots on port - although I suppose I had
better VMG at 3 knots). It's part of the learning curve for me to look
at my track and see what tendencies I have that I didn't consider
while doing the actual sail. Plus, it let's me feel like I'm still
sailing even though I'm at work :)
When I get back out there, I'll be more diligent about pointing,
paying attention and trimming the sails.
Scout


Joe July 27th 07 03:37 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 4:55 am, "Scout" wrote:
I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout


Good lord Scout...IMO yer ****ing up trying to figure out your boats
preformance on autocad. What's this world coming to?

Proper salt spray in your face as waves impact the bow perfectly,
shape of your sails, and the feel of your helm, and the deck below
your feet is what you need more of.

Tweaking and shaking down on a computor...gawd I'm going vomit.

Joe

Joe


[email protected] July 27th 07 04:32 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:22:42 -0700, Scout
wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 07, "Scout" wrote:
The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW


On Jul 27, PhantMan wrote:
Why are you doing so much better
on Port tack than Starboard???


Difference if probably due to inexperience and me paying more
attention to speed than direction


Gotcha. Most boats sail a little differently on one tack than the
other. Not usually *that* differently though without extenuating
circumstances.
Seawards are nice looking boats. I've never sailed one though.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think there are GPS's on the market that will do
what you'd like to do in real time. IOW, plug in your windward mark as
a way point and the GPS will take speed and heading into account to
figure out velocity made good towards the mark. I don't know if you
can find one that'll take wind direction into account though so you
may need a steady wind direction, depending on what exactly you're
trying to analyze.
Joe's right though about just getting more time under sail. There's no
substitute for that. A little high tech help here and there can't hurt
though.

Rick

Scotty July 27th 07 05:22 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
was there a current?

were you drinking?

doesn't your Garmin tell you VMG?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's

performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some

notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout





Scout July 27th 07 06:19 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 10:37 am, Joe wrote:
On Jul 27, 4:55 am, "Scout" wrote:

I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout


Good lord Scout...IMO yer ****ing up trying to figure out your boats
preformance on autocad. What's this world coming to?

Proper salt spray in your face as waves impact the bow perfectly,
shape of your sails, and the feel of your helm, and the deck below
your feet is what you need more of.

Tweaking and shaking down on a computor...gawd I'm going vomit.

Joe

Joe


Joe,
First thing - I'm 100 miles from my boat and need something sailing
related to do! (besides posting here).
Secondly, Since the angles of my tacks are gps accurate and since I
have AutoCAD, and since I recorded the direction of the wind, why not
use all that info to improve my understanding of sailing? I've spent
hundreds on navigation equipment where others spend thousands - why
not make the best use of what I have at my finger tips? Even without
any input from the group, I can see where I was f-ing up. If I did use
just the wind in my face approach, I haven't gotten any better because
the most exciting sailing was when I was going furthest off course!
So, puke if you must, but hang on and I'll check the AutoCAD drawing
to make sure it doesn't blow back on you! :)
Scout


Scout July 27th 07 06:20 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 12:22 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
was there a current?

were you drinking?

doesn't your Garmin tell you VMG?

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message

... I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's


performance. The chart



was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some

notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout- Hide quoted text -


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Scotty, you've seen my gps in the vids, an old III+ doesn't do much
that could be called fancy.


Scout July 27th 07 06:21 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 11:32 am, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 07:22:42 -0700, Scout
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 07, "Scout" wrote:
The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW


On Jul 27, PhantMan wrote:

Why are you doing so much better
on Port tack than Starboard???

Difference if probably due to inexperience and me paying more
attention to speed than direction


Gotcha. Most boats sail a little differently on one tack than the
other. Not usually *that* differently though without extenuating
circumstances.
Seawards are nice looking boats. I've never sailed one though.
Maybe I'm wrong but I think there are GPS's on the market that will do
what you'd like to do in real time. IOW, plug in your windward mark as
a way point and the GPS will take speed and heading into account to
figure out velocity made good towards the mark. I don't know if you
can find one that'll take wind direction into account though so you
may need a steady wind direction, depending on what exactly you're
trying to analyze.
Joe's right though about just getting more time under sail. There's no
substitute for that. A little high tech help here and there can't hurt
though.

Rick


Thanks Rick
I'm looking into a new gps, good to know what capabilities the new
models have.
Scout


Joe July 27th 07 07:50 PM

an attempt to develop a tacking analyzing system
 
On Jul 27, 12:19 pm, Scout wrote:
On Jul 27, 10:37 am, Joe wrote:





On Jul 27, 4:55 am, "Scout" wrote:


I know I can do better to windward.
I'm hoping to develop a means of analyzing my boat's performance. The chart
was made using my Garmin tracks, AutoCAD 2000, and some notes taking during
the sail.http://sports.webshots.com/photo/280...97509592csvCYW
Scout


Good lord Scout...IMO yer ****ing up trying to figure out your boats
preformance on autocad. What's this world coming to?


Proper salt spray in your face as waves impact the bow perfectly,
shape of your sails, and the feel of your helm, and the deck below
your feet is what you need more of.


Tweaking and shaking down on a computor...gawd I'm going vomit.


Joe


Joe


Joe,
First thing - I'm 100 miles from my boat and need something sailing
related to do! (besides posting here).
Secondly, Since the angles of my tacks are gps accurate and since I
have AutoCAD, and since I recorded the direction of the wind, why not
use all that info to improve my understanding of sailing? I've spent
hundreds on navigation equipment where others spend thousands - why
not make the best use of what I have at my finger tips? Even without
any input from the group, I can see where I was f-ing up. If I did use
just the wind in my face approach, I haven't gotten any better because
the most exciting sailing was when I was going furthest off course!
So, puke if you must, but hang on and I'll check the AutoCAD drawing
to make sure it doesn't blow back on you! :)
Scout- Hide quoted text -

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I'm just messing with you Scout.
And if you are not going anywhere just sailing around I can relate to
the having fun parts and running on a broad reach no matter the course
made good. Now if you were going somewhere up wind, your charted, or
plotted, or computed , or was it designed course was awlful bad.

100 miles inland...that's as bad a commute as Rob has to his boat.
Joe



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