101 for Martin and Jeff
 

Let's see how dumb Jeff and Martin are...AGAIN!

I said my prop fouled something. THIS IS WHAT THAT MEANS:

Main Entry: 2foul
Function: noun
2 : an entanglement or collision especially in angling or sailing

I never said a line caught/wrapped my prop. I said the prop fouled
something, which it did. The object was not visible to us or boat that
towed us in, so it could not be retrieved. I then said that my shaft
was bent. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft and I
explained clearly, using the most simple language possible for him,
exactly what type of scenerio could save a shaft using the drivesaver.

Make up what you want, but my posts are consistent and yours are NOT.
Does Martin really think the whole story is made up? What a dope!

Oh...sailed today and sailing tomorrow. Have fun posting on ASA while
we sail our days away!




RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Let's see how dumb Jeff and Martin are...AGAIN!

Ok, let's start with your first lie:



h. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft

I never said that, you can't get anything right can you, (how many times
did you hear that from your mother?)

Cheers
Marty

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

h. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft



I never said that,



Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....Okay! So then we agree that a drivesaver
can save a shaft as they and my mechanic explained.
Very good!

Cheers, Martin!


RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

h. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft

I never said that,

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....Okay! So then we agree that a drivesaver
can save a shaft as they and my mechanic explained.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay, So then we agree you lied!
Very good!

Cheers
Marty

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,



Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! He's
trying to pretend that he's not been fighting this point for the last
24 hours! Obviously he either spoke to someone who actually has a clue
or called drivesaver as I suggested.

Ummm.....HOOOOH AHHHHHH!

And Martin has yet to comment on the pic I posted!


RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,

Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! H

Bzzzt! I categorically state that Drivesaver is not designed to save the
drive shaft, it is designed to save the transmission and engine, quite
possibly at the expense of the drives shaft. You may try to change the
subject all you want, it won't work.

As for the picture; if you're gonna spend all day scouring the yard for
someone who has a boat on the hard with a disconnected drive shaft, you
could at least have found one that resembles the insides of a Benny.

Cheers
Marty

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

you
could at least have found one that resembles the insides of a Benny.






OMG.
Let's hope you're not serious. Care to bet your meager reputation on
that assertion? You say that it's not my 35s5 engine and shaft in that
pic?


RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

Marty, do you agree or not agree that the drivesaver can prevent shaft
damage in some cases.
Yes
or
no.
Show a smidgen of backbone, dude. Everyone's embarassed for you.

I'm off to bed. I have long sailing day planned for tomorrow and I was
sailing most of today. I'll check your waterfall of posts tomorror.



RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/13/2007 7:14 PM:
Let's see how dumb Jeff and Martin are...AGAIN!

I said my prop fouled something. THIS IS WHAT THAT MEANS:

Main Entry: 2foul
Function: noun
2 : an entanglement or collision especially in angling or sailing

I never said a line caught/wrapped my prop. I said the prop fouled
something, which it did.

Every boater knows that "fouled" means tangled. Face it, n00b, you
tried to use sailer talk and screwed up!

The object was not visible to us or boat that
towed us in, so it could not be retrieved.

It was one of those invisible logs? It was close enough for an
outboard launch to also hit it and it was not visible? No one had a
boat hook to use to find it? Or do you make more money leaving it in
the channel?


I then said that my shaft
was bent. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft

Did he say that? I don't think so.

and I
explained clearly, using the most simple language possible for him,
exactly what type of scenerio could save a shaft using the drivesaver.

Of course there is some scenario where it might happen. But it wasn't
designed for that, nor does the company make any such claims. Its
only a salesman saying, "sure, it might help there too." But then
this whole thread is about an instance where it didn't help. In fact,
it probably did what it was designed for, save the tranny.


Make up what you want, but my posts are gibberish and yours are NOT.

well said!

Does Martin really think the whole story is made up? I'm a dope!

it wouldn't be the first time.

Oh...sailed today and sailing tomorrow. Have fun posting on ASA while
we sail our days away!


True, we haven't sailed in a few days. But we've been out for two
weeks and currently on a mooring in Vineyard Haven, one of the nicest
spots in the world. Its only 150 miles from you, about 3 days, you
could do it if you wanted to! Today we might go to Menemsha, then its
over to Hadley's, from there its Scituate, and then home. After a few
days of taking care of business, we're heading East for a month in
Maine. And then we still have a few weeks for shorter cruises.

But I'm really envious of you - I always wanted to live in a small
house an hour away from a protected bay where a could sail a few times
a week.

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

On Jul 13, 8:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,

Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! He's
trying to pretend that he's not been fighting this point for the last
24 hours! Obviously he either spoke to someone who actually has a clue
or called drivesaver as I suggested.

Ummm.....HOOOOH AHHHHHH!

And Martin has yet to comment on the pic I posted!

RB
35s5
NY

Uhhhhh. Rob. Your bent shaft is not a very good sells endorsement for
something called a drivesaver.

BTW whats wrong with the system mariners have been using for the last
100 years to save the drive gear?

It's called a shear pin, or woodruff key? They are cheaper and do a
better job.

Joe

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

On Jul 14, 6:40 am, Jeff wrote:
* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/13/2007 7:14 PM:

Let's see how dumb Jeff and Martin are...AGAIN!

I said my prop fouled something. THIS IS WHAT THAT MEANS:

Main Entry: 2foul
Function: noun
2 : an entanglement or collision especially in angling or sailing

I never said a line caught/wrapped my prop. I said the prop fouled
something, which it did.

Every boater knows that "fouled" means tangled. Face it, n00b, you
tried to use sailer talk and screwed up!

The object was not visible to us or boat that
towed us in, so it could not be retrieved.

It was one of those invisible logs? It was close enough for an
outboard launch to also hit it and it was not visible? No one had a
boat hook to use to find it? Or do you make more money leaving it in
the channel?

I then said that my shaft
was bent. Martin said a driversaver could NOT save a shaft

Did he say that? I don't think so.

and I
explained clearly, using the most simple language possible for him,
exactly what type of scenerio could save a shaft using the drivesaver.

Of course there is some scenario where it might happen. But it wasn't
designed for that, nor does the company make any such claims. Its
only a salesman saying, "sure, it might help there too." But then
this whole thread is about an instance where it didn't help. In fact,
it probably did what it was designed for, save the tranny.



Make up what you want, but my posts are gibberish and yours are NOT.

well said!

Does Martin really think the whole story is made up? I'm a dope!

it wouldn't be the first time.

Oh...sailed today and sailing tomorrow. Have fun posting on ASA while
we sail our days away!

True, we haven't sailed in a few days. But we've been out for two
weeks and currently on a mooring in Vineyard Haven, one of the nicest
spots in the world.

Looks nice:
http://maps.google.com/maps?tab=il&h...neyard%20Haven


Its only 150 miles from you, about 3 days, you
could do it if you wanted to!

3 days...bwahahahahahahhahahahaaahahaaaa.

Joe

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 13, 8:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,

Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! He's
trying to pretend that he's not been fighting this point for the last
24 hours! Obviously he either spoke to someone who actually has a clue
or called drivesaver as I suggested.

Ummm.....HOOOOH AHHHHHH!

And Martin has yet to comment on the pic I posted!

RB
35s5
NY

Uhhhhh. Rob. Your bent shaft is not a very good sells endorsement for
something called a drivesaver.

BTW whats wrong with the system mariners have been using for the last
100 years to save the drive gear?

It's called a shear pin, or woodruff key? They are cheaper and do a
better job.

Joe

Joe, there is a heck of a difference between a shear pin and a Wooodruffe
key

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

* Joe wrote, On 7/14/2007 11:26 AM:
True, we haven't sailed in a few days. But we've been out for two
weeks and currently on a mooring in Vineyard Haven, one of the nicest
spots in the world.

Looks nice:
http://maps.google.com/maps?tab=il&h...neyard%20Haven


You have to zoom in a bit, turn on the satellite view, and slide over
to the harbor to really see the nautical side. Also, half the boats
in the harbor are classic wooden boats - I'll post some pics when I'm
back on broadband. The nice thing about the Vineyard is that there
are 6 towns, each with a different character, and a nice bus system to
travel between them. We like to hang here for a week or so each summer

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

Every boater knows that "fouled" means tangled. Face it, n00b, you
tried to use sailer talk and screwed up!





Total nonsense. "Fouled" means what the dictionary says it means. Our
head mechanic who's a former navy guy and has been working on boat
engines for 45 years wrote, "Propeller fouled hard object, probably
submerged timber."
And so far no one else I spoke to assumed that I meant tangled when I
said it fouled.

I guess you must be from the Jurassic period of boat terms, Jeff!


RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

On Jul 14, 11:29 am, "Edgar" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Jul 13, 8:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,

Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! He's
trying to pretend that he's not been fighting this point for the last
24 hours! Obviously he either spoke to someone who actually has a clue
or called drivesaver as I suggested.

Ummm.....HOOOOH AHHHHHH!

And Martin has yet to comment on the pic I posted!

RB
35s5
NY

Uhhhhh. Rob. Your bent shaft is not a very good sells endorsement for
something called a drivesaver.

BTW whats wrong with the system mariners have been using for the last
100 years to save the drive gear?

It's called a shear pin, or woodruff key? They are cheaper and do a
better job.

Joe

Joe, there is a heck of a difference between a shear pin and a Wooodruffe
key- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Both are designed to break before the gear they protect break. Right?

They both cost about a buck.

Joe





Joe

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

On Jul 14, 8:52 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Every boater knows that "fouled" means tangled. Face it, n00b, you
tried to use sailer talk and screwed up!

Total nonsense. "Fouled" means what the dictionary says it means. Our
head mechanic who's a former navy guy and has been working on boat
engines for 45 years wrote, "Propeller fouled hard object, probably
submerged timber."
And so far no one else I spoke to assumed that I meant tangled when I
said it fouled.

I guess you must be from the Jurassic period of boat terms, Jeff!

RB
35s5
NY

I would think most people assume that fouled means intangled or
wedged in. To hit a submerged log IMO is not fouling your prop. It's
called a strike.

Tell your Navy Mechanic to stick to turning wrenches. If he wants to
know the correct nautical tern tell him to ask a Boatswain's Mate.

An example of fouled would be a net, or rope, or heavy seaweed
wrapped around and staying in place, or say a log entered the space
between the prop and hull and stopped the prop from spinning then
stayed wedged in place fouling the prop.

Joe

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Jul 14, 11:29 am, "Edgar" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Jul 13, 8:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Ohhhhhhhhhhh, Okay,

Holy Backpedal, Ole Chum!
Martin now agrees that the drivesaver can save a shaft!!!!!! He's
trying to pretend that he's not been fighting this point for the last
24 hours! Obviously he either spoke to someone who actually has a clue
or called drivesaver as I suggested.

Ummm.....HOOOOH AHHHHHH!

And Martin has yet to comment on the pic I posted!

RB
35s5
NY

Uhhhhh. Rob. Your bent shaft is not a very good sells endorsement for
something called a drivesaver.

BTW whats wrong with the system mariners have been using for the last
100 years to save the drive gear?

It's called a shear pin, or woodruff key? They are cheaper and do a
better job.

Joe

Joe, there is a heck of a difference between a shear pin and a Wooodruffe
key- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Both are designed to break before the gear they protect break. Right?

They both cost about a buck.

A shear pin is designed to break to protect the rest of the setup. Breaking
is not part of the design specification of a Woodruffe key

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...


I would think most ***SAILORS*** assume that fouled means
intangled or
wedged in. To hit a submerged log IMO is not fouling your
prop. It's
called a strike.

Tell your Navy Mechanic to stick to turning wrenches. If
he wants to
know the correct nautical tern tell him to ask a
Boatswain's Mate.

An example of fouled would be a net, or rope, or heavy
seaweed
wrapped around and staying in place, or say a log entered
the space
between the prop and hull and stopped the prop from
spinning then
stayed wedged in place fouling the prop.


I made a correction in your post that would explain why
bobspit didn't know the difference.

SV

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

An example of fouled would be a net, or rope, or heavy seaweed
wrapped around and staying in place, or say a log entered the space
between the prop and hull and stopped the prop from spinning then
stayed wedged in place fouling the prop.


Joe, that's EXACTLY what the mechanic described.he thinks the object
got wedged briefly because of the way the shaft is bowed.
We fouled the prop. Thanks.


RB
35s5
NY

101 for Martin and Jeff
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
An example of fouled would be a net, or rope, or heavy seaweed
wrapped around and staying in place, or say a log entered the space
between the prop and hull and stopped the prop from spinning then
stayed wedged in place fouling the prop.


Joe, that's EXACTLY what the mechanic described.he thinks the object
got wedged briefly because of the way the shaft is bowed.
We fouled the prop. Thanks.


RB
35s5
NY


ROTFL, god, you are so funny.