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It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her
launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout"
wrote: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout Hey great Scout! Is that a sistership that is your next slip neighbor? that must be nice. Frank |
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On Jul 2, 3:56 am, "Scout" wrote:
Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her.http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout That's a good looking boat Scout. Looks stout and seaworthy. Joe |
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Sweet looking boat!!! You should be very happy with her.
Congrats. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 2, 3:56 am, "Scout" wrote: Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her.http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout That's a good looking boat Scout. Looks stout and seaworthy. Joe Looks are deceiving. That's not a very seaworthy boat. And what's with the lazy jacks on a 25-foot boat. Pretty useless having extra lines to foul the sail and chafe when the sail is small enough to handle easily. 1) seaworthy would be a turtle on the sliding companionway hatch. 2) seaworthy would be hanked-on headsails, lose the roll up system. 3) seaworthy would be real running lights on the bow. You know, something that could be seen... 4) seaworthy would be double lowers on the mainmast. 5) seaworthy would be double lifelines. 6) seaworthy would be at least two different anchors and rodes at the ready on the sprit. 7) an open transom is not seaworthy. 8) seaworthy would be a real keel. That thing looks like it has one of those retractable keels. Good for trailering but definitely NOT seaworthy. 9) Those Hunter-copy stern rail seats are an unseaworthy gimmick. 10) Only one cleat on the bow. What a joke. There should be at least four or a bollard of some sort for affixing lines. You're welcome! Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Scout" wrote in message
... It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout Looks like a nice boat! I'll be back in about a week, and I expect to see the vids! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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1) seaworthy would be a turtle on the sliding companionway hatch.
Easily added IF required. 2) seaworthy would be hanked-on headsails, lose the roll up system. Repeated trips to the bow are not safe and put sailors at more risk than properly installed furlers. No one but a putz pinhead believes otherwise. 3) seaworthy would be real running lights on the bow. You know, Those lights are just fine. 4) seaworthy would be double lowers on the mainmast. Nonsense. 5) seaworthy would be double lifelines. Again, easy enough to add and probably a valid upgrade. 6) seaworthy would be at least two different anchors and rodes at the ready on the sprit. At the ready in the slip?? You have no idea what kind of ground tackle he has. 7) an open transom is not seaworthy. Nonsense. 8) seaworthy would be a real keel. That thing looks like it has one of those retractable keels. Good for trailering but definitely NOT seaworthy. More nonsense. Retractable keels have gone around the world many times. 9) Those Hunter-copy stern rail seats are an unseaworthy gimmick. Explain to us how they're unseaworthy. We used them recently on a Catalina 36. On the hook they are great! 10) Only one cleat on the bow. What a joke. There should be at least four or a bollard of some sort for affixing lines. Fewer forward cleats when possible is better. Less fouling issues, or foot hazzard and a stronger foredeck. Tell us, Mister Sockpuppet...ever own a boat of your own? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... 1) seaworthy would be a turtle on the sliding companionway hatch. Easily added IF required. 2) seaworthy would be hanked-on headsails, lose the roll up system. Repeated trips to the bow are not safe and put sailors at more risk than properly installed furlers. No one but a putz pinhead believes otherwise. 3) seaworthy would be real running lights on the bow. You know, Those lights are just fine. 4) seaworthy would be double lowers on the mainmast. Nonsense. 5) seaworthy would be double lifelines. Again, easy enough to add and probably a valid upgrade. 6) seaworthy would be at least two different anchors and rodes at the ready on the sprit. At the ready in the slip?? You have no idea what kind of ground tackle he has. 7) an open transom is not seaworthy. Nonsense. 8) seaworthy would be a real keel. That thing looks like it has one of those retractable keels. Good for trailering but definitely NOT seaworthy. More nonsense. Retractable keels have gone around the world many times. 9) Those Hunter-copy stern rail seats are an unseaworthy gimmick. Explain to us how they're unseaworthy. We used them recently on a Catalina 36. On the hook they are great! 10) Only one cleat on the bow. What a joke. There should be at least four or a bollard of some sort for affixing lines. Fewer forward cleats when possible is better. Less fouling issues, or foot hazzard and a stronger foredeck. Tell us, Mister Sockpuppet...ever own a boat of your own? RB 35s5 NY Can you say Swan 68? Even my knock around gunkholing boat (Allied Seawind 32) is about two or three times as seaworthy as your Clorox bottle Beneteau. Get real, Freakinstein! Calling that flimsy little boat of Scout's seaworthy is something so ludicrous that it can't be abided by any rational human being. So, if you want to pay the dude a compliment that say something like "nice lines" or "clean looking boat" but to call it seaworthy just goes to show people don't have a clue what's involved with seaworthiness. He's the proud owner of a gimmick boat. It's far from being seaworthy. It's not much more seaworthy than a Mac26X, for gawd's sake. Your defending it as seaworthy shows you're totally ignorant. But, that's to be expected since you're too chicken to go out to sea. That's why you stay in sight of land. You don't sail a seaworthy boat either. You motorsail a style-over-substance daysailer. It wouldn't last two weeks on a serious passage across an ocean before something serious broke in two or carried away. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Can you say Swan 68?
Yes, but you don't own one no matter how many times you say it. Even my knock around gunkholing boat (Allied Seawind 32) is about two or three times as seaworthy as your Clorox bottle Beneteau. Uh huh...just like the Swan! Calling that flimsy little boat of Scout's seaworthy is something so ludicrous that it can't be abided by any rational human being. You might be interested in the current issue BoatUS magazine which compared the boat to the IP 27 and commented on it being very high quality construction. If you're the sort of person who can't take a stock Compac 27 and see it's inherent strengths, we all understand. So, if you want to pay the dude a compliment that say something like "nice lines" or "clean looking boat" but to call it seaworthy just goes to show people don't have a clue what's involved with seaworthiness. Most boats are fairly seaworthy assuming the folks who sail them know what they're doing. He's the proud owner of a gimmick boat. Yup....the gimmich is that he actually owns a boat and isn't so pathetic as to pretend he owns a Swan. We're all embarassed for you. It's not much more seaworthy than a Mac26X, for gawd's sake. Yep, that comment should build on your credibility. Let us know when your custom space shuttle is ready for guests. That's why you stay in sight of land. I usually daysail and weekend sail on the sound. If you had a clue you might realize that losing sight of land would require fog or a sharp blow to the head on the LIS. You don't sail a seaworthy boat either. Sails fine and fast for us, which is to say better than your imaginary boat. It wouldn't last two weeks on a serious passage across an ocean before something serious broke in two or carried away. 35s5's have done crossings. In fact one WON a solo crossing race just two seasons ago. Oops! There goes the last bit of credibility you had, mister sockpuppet! RB 35s5 NY |
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Hake Seaward 26RK even better quality than the Compac 27!
RB 35s5 NY |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:46:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: He's the proud owner of a gimmick boat. It's far from being seaworthy. It's not much more seaworthy than a Mac26X, for gawd's sake. Your defending it as seaworthy shows you're totally ignorant. This is a good reason why many Macs are sold. Why spend extra money on the Hake if the Mac is "almost as seaworthy?" - according to some here, anyway. Then there's always the "attractive lines," and "classic good looks" comments. Or the "My boat will sail circles around yours" remark. Guess it just goes to show what opinions have in common with what. I'm still in the decision mode about what my first boat will be. Maybe, the F-24, maybe the Mac 26X/M. Whatever it is, it'll earn my affection. When I first looked at tri's, they didn't look attractive to me, but since I've read of their capabilities, they look a lot better. The Mac powersailors always looked like a homogulation to me, but not esthetically unattractive. I've noticed how fond I grow of the looks of dependable cars and women, despite not being initially impressed, and I'll wager boats follow that pattern. Not suggesting that beauty and practicality are mutually exclusive, but there's plenty of evidence that beauty often is only skin deep. Scout's boat is a looker, and from what I've read, that's more than skin deep. I considered one myself, but it would bust me. Whatever I end up with, I'll enjoy it if I use it. That's the bottom line for me. Whatever a boat does best, it's all wasted if the sails are always bagged - or in the case of a Mac, the motor always idle. Even incipient-reef liveaboard boats can suit a purpose. But boats that are seldom visited and never sailed are no better than derelicts until they are unloaded for some cash. So it's real nice to hear your boat in the water, Scout. Being the sailors they are, I know Rob and Wilbur are happy about that too. How could it be otherwise? --Vic |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout"
wrote this crap: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg It sure beats a Mac 26. This post is 100% free of steroids |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout"
wrote: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout She's really looking good. Enjoy. You've still got most of the summer. Mark E. Williams |
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"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
... On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout" wrote: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout Hey great Scout! Is that a sistership that is your next slip neighbor? that must be nice. Frank Yes, it is a sistership, pure chance that is! Thanks Frank! Scout |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com... Sweet looking boat!!! You should be very happy with her. Congrats. Thanks Rob! Scout |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On Jul 2, 3:56 am, "Scout" wrote: Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her.http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout That's a good looking boat Scout. Looks stout and seaworthy. Joe Thanks Joe, it should be fine for what I need :) Scout |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 14:46:54 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: He's the proud owner of a gimmick boat. It's far from being seaworthy. It's not much more seaworthy than a Mac26X, for gawd's sake. Your defending it as seaworthy shows you're totally ignorant. This is a good reason why many Macs are sold. Why spend extra money on the Hake if the Mac is "almost as seaworthy?" - according to some here, anyway. Then there's always the "attractive lines," and "classic good looks" comments. Or the "My boat will sail circles around yours" remark. Guess it just goes to show what opinions have in common with what. I'm still in the decision mode about what my first boat will be. Maybe, the F-24, maybe the Mac 26X/M. Whatever it is, it'll earn my affection. When I first looked at tri's, they didn't look attractive to me, but since I've read of their capabilities, they look a lot better. The Mac powersailors always looked like a homogulation to me, but not esthetically unattractive. I've noticed how fond I grow of the looks of dependable cars and women, despite not being initially impressed, and I'll wager boats follow that pattern. Not suggesting that beauty and practicality are mutually exclusive, but there's plenty of evidence that beauty often is only skin deep. Scout's boat is a looker, and from what I've read, that's more than skin deep. I considered one myself, but it would bust me. Whatever I end up with, I'll enjoy it if I use it. That's the bottom line for me. Whatever a boat does best, it's all wasted if the sails are always bagged - or in the case of a Mac, the motor always idle. Even incipient-reef liveaboard boats can suit a purpose. But boats that are seldom visited and never sailed are no better than derelicts until they are unloaded for some cash. So it's real nice to hear your boat in the water, Scout. Being the sailors they are, I know Rob and Wilbur are happy about that too. How could it be otherwise? --Vic Good observations Vic. And my thanks to you too. This is a good group I've been reading and posting here for about 7 years, and I've come to appreciate the good folks who gather in this forum. I appreciate each and every response. It was this group that led me to Hake Yachts / Seaward and I believe I've purchased the perfect boat given my sailing needs. I wouldn't have found that boat without the help I received here. Good luck in your search Vic. I understand about the "bust" part too. If I had a few million bucks, I'd have a different sailboat and a lot more toys! In the end, enough is as good as a feast. Scout |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com... "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 2, 3:56 am, "Scout" wrote: Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her.http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout That's a good looking boat Scout. Looks stout and seaworthy. Joe Looks are deceiving. That's not a very seaworthy boat. And what's with the lazy jacks on a 25-foot boat. Pretty useless having extra lines to foul the sail and chafe when the sail is small enough to handle easily. 1) seaworthy would be a turtle on the sliding companionway hatch. 2) seaworthy would be hanked-on headsails, lose the roll up system. 3) seaworthy would be real running lights on the bow. You know, something that could be seen... 4) seaworthy would be double lowers on the mainmast. 5) seaworthy would be double lifelines. 6) seaworthy would be at least two different anchors and rodes at the ready on the sprit. 7) an open transom is not seaworthy. 8) seaworthy would be a real keel. That thing looks like it has one of those retractable keels. Good for trailering but definitely NOT seaworthy. 9) Those Hunter-copy stern rail seats are an unseaworthy gimmick. 10) Only one cleat on the bow. What a joke. There should be at least four or a bollard of some sort for affixing lines. You're welcome! Wilbur Hubbard Wilbur Ah, always the curmudgeon, but that doesn't make you wrong. You're not entirely right, but your points are well taken. My boat, your boat, any boat, could always be a little better. Much of what we consider desirable is relative. I'd like a boat that could accommodate a 6'4" captain a little better. The world is built for short guys like you, and my poor head pays the price when I don't duck. But I'm not going to say my boat sucks because the head room is only 5'10". I'm also not going to say it sucks just because it wouldn't be my first choice in which to ride out a Katrina. Since you appreciate honesty, I'll be honest back with you, and tell you that I really do think you are right in some of your points, but in others I think you are just being cantankerous for your own pleasure. For instance, those stern rail seats are frigging awesome my friend, and you are too smart to not know that. For another instance, I know the open stern would be bad in rough seas, but on my very first dunk, I appreciated the fun it adds to a sail - and to be sure, I'm in it for the fun. If the boat sinks, I have the strength and fortitude to save myself. If you were sailing with me, I might be able to drag your crabby ass to shore too. And I would, because in spite of your well documented Asperger's tendencies, I do believe you might as well be screaming that you need to feel loved and appreciated. So in that spirit, I thank you for your good intentions and concern for my safety. You are a good friend and I appreciate you. Scout |
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"Horvath" wrote in message
. com... On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout" wrote this crap: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg It sure beats a Mac 26. This post is 100% free of steroids Horvy, Where've you been? Seems like I haven't seen you here in a couple of years. Scout |
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"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
... On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 04:56:19 -0400, "Scout" wrote: It's official - I've got a boat and she's in the water. We finally got her launched her on Saturday and spent most of the day tinkering with the various components to be sure we weren't damaging or forgetting anything. We motored about the bay and up the Bass river to our slip and reinspected everything. We plan to hoist the mainsail on Saturday. Now that I have a bimini, it'll be rain or shine! :) Tried out many of the systems. The Yanmar engine ran very well but the throttle kept wanting to return to midpoint (about 2,000 rpm). Not sure yet what that's all about. It generated power effectively; was able to run the AC unit and all other electrics with the exception of the hot water heater, which is too much for the inverter. The Yanmar made a quick tank of domestic hot water though. Depthfinder gave clear, easy to read postings, for now I'll just hope it's accurate. The autopilot gave an accurate compass heading and otherwise I don't know how to use it yet. The windlass worked well and I dropped anchor just to try it out. It is very convenient to drop and raise anchor from the cockpit, but I'm not sure I'd have chosen that option on a new boat. It just seems like a system waiting to fail and I never minded hauling in the anchor by hand; it gives one a better sense of conditions to work the anchor. The electric winch pulled the 1,200 pound centerboard with no problem. I'm loving the wheel after having only a tiller. I know the tiller has pros, but my back likes not being twisted, very much! Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg Cheers, Scout She's really looking good. Enjoy. You've still got most of the summer. Mark E. Williams Thanks Mark. That's what I'm thinking, the best is yet to come in the Fall :o) Scout |
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 06:08:14 -0400, "Scout"
wrote this crap: Her she is in the slip, I'll post pics and vids as I get more time with her. http://downloads.c-2.com/photos/1183302037.jpg It sure beats a Mac 26. Horvy, Where've you been? Seems like I haven't seen you here in a couple of years. Scout I've been out yachting. This post is 100% free of steroids |
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