Introduction.
 

Hello, I guess it's customary for newbys to introduce themselves. My
name's Greg and I don't have a sailboat (yet). So I'm going to hang on
some of the boating groups to see what I can learn. Is this group always
so off-topic? Not many of the posts are on topic. And there are way too
many cross posts from unrelated groups. It took me fifteen minutes just
to block about half the posts, mostly the ones that were spam and
cross-posted to a dozen or so other sites. I hope spam doesn't get as
frequent as it is on email.

Oh, I might make a comment once in a while but since I don't have much
experience I'll keep quiet most of the time. I was partial to the
Macgregors but there seems to be a lot of negative comments about them.
Only one or two subscribers seem to say good things about them. I think
the new 26XM is very stylish. It just looks modern and streamlined to
me.

Greg

Introduction.
 

"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
Hello, I guess it's customary for newbys to introduce themselves. My
name's Greg and I don't have a sailboat (yet). So I'm going to hang on
some of the boating groups to see what I can learn. Is this group always
so off-topic? Not many of the posts are on topic. And there are way too
many cross posts from unrelated groups. It took me fifteen minutes just to
block about half the posts, mostly the ones that were spam and
cross-posted to a dozen or so other sites. I hope spam doesn't get as
frequent as it is on email.

Hi, Greg--welcome. Yeah, we have lots of flonkers here, but it's not a
chore to filter them as they appear. As for OT posts, we have lots of
those, too. Most of the sailing content is fairly esoteric, so you may or
may not gain much insight here if you are a true novice. But one never
knows . . .


Oh, I might make a comment once in a while but since I don't have much
experience I'll keep quiet most of the time. I was partial to the
Macgregors but there seems to be a lot of negative comments about them.
Only one or two subscribers seem to say good things about them. I think
the new 26XM is very stylish. It just looks modern and streamlined to me.

I'll leave this topic to those who seem obsessed by it.

Max

Introduction.
 

"Gregory Hall" wrote
Hello, I guess it's customary for newbys to introduce themselves. My
name's Greg and I don't have a sailboat (yet).

And if you get a MacGregor 26X you still won't have one. But it does
make a great water toy and road camper.

.... So I'm going to hang on
some of the boating groups to see what I can learn.

It would be better to hang around a sailing club and get some on-water
experience.... lots of boats out there need crew.


.... Is this group always
so off-topic?

Most of the time, yes. Wait 'till you see it in an election year.

...... It took me fifteen minutes just to
block about half the posts, mostly the ones that were spam and
cross-posted to a dozen or so other sites.

Once you know who to ignore, this is a pretty good group even though
the best regulars are not as regular as they used to be.


"Maxprop" wrote:
Hi, Greg--welcome. Yeah, we have lots of flonkers here, but it's not a
chore to filter them as they appear.

Plus the flonkers are really stupid about their ID's and subject
lines, so they are very easy to filter en masse.

.... As for OT posts, we have lots of
those, too. Most of the sailing content is fairly esoteric, so you may or
may not gain much insight here if you are a true novice. But one never
knows . . .


Agreed. That's because most of the regulars here are sailors of long
enough term experience that we don't talk much about which way to pull
the tiller when tacking (although I recall a number of excellent
discussions of helming for various basic maneuvers).

It also makes it easy to spot the fakers.


Oh, I might make a comment once in a while but since I don't have much
experience I'll keep quiet most of the time.

Why not ask questions? Some of the best discussions start that way.

... I was partial to the
Macgregors but there seems to be a lot of negative comments about them.

Generally the negative comments come from two types of people- those
who have no knowledge or experience with them, and those who have
enough experience with other types of boats to recognize their
deficient sailing characteristics. The people who rave about them
generally don't have much experience in anything else.

Personally, I think the main thing is to get a boat one can enjoy and
not worry about what others say.


Only one or two subscribers seem to say good things about them. I think
the new 26XM is very stylish. It just looks modern and streamlined to me.

I'll leave this topic to those who seem obsessed by it.


You are gaining wisdom, grasshopper ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Introduction.
 

if you're as dorky as your introduction post indicates, then
by all means, the MacGregor is for you.
if you want to be a sailor, then ask a lot of questions,
before you buy a boat.

Scotty


"Gregory Hall" wrote in message
...
Hello, I guess it's customary for newbys to introduce
themselves. My
name's Greg and I don't have a sailboat (yet). So I'm
going to hang on
some of the boating groups to see what I can learn. Is
this group always
so off-topic? Not many of the posts are on topic. And
there are way too
many cross posts from unrelated groups. It took me fifteen
minutes just
to block about half the posts, mostly the ones that were
spam and
cross-posted to a dozen or so other sites. I hope spam
doesn't get as
frequent as it is on email.

Oh, I might make a comment once in a while but since I
don't have much
experience I'll keep quiet most of the time. I was partial
to the
Macgregors but there seems to be a lot of negative
comments about them.
Only one or two subscribers seem to say good things about
them. I think
the new 26XM is very stylish. It just looks modern and
streamlined to
me.

Greg

Introduction.
 

if you're as dorky as your introduction post indicates, then
by all means, the MacGregor is for you.



This from a guy who already owned a Mac and now owns an even more
poorly built boat in the zero-market valued Siedleman 30.


RB
35s5
NY

Introduction.
 

"Capt. **** Head Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...
if you're as dorky as your introduction post indicates,
then
by all means, the MacGregor is for you.



This from a guy who already owned a Mac and now owns an
even more
poorly built boat in the zero-market valued Siedleman 30.


hey **** for brains, I don't ''own'' a Siedleman 30.

SBV

Introduction.
 

I don't ''own'' a Siedleman 30.






Hey, boil puss head, you DO own and sail one of most poorly regarded
boats ever built...after selling a boat that was almost as bad. No one
should take advice from you on anything except maybe outhouse
building, you trailer-trash non-sailing hunk of bloody vaginal
discharge.

PS: You're scum.



RB
35s5
NY

Introduction.
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I don't ''own'' a Siedleman 30.






Hey, boil puss head, you DO own and sail one of most poorly regarded
boats ever built...after selling a boat that was almost as bad. No one
should take advice from you on anything except maybe outhouse
building, you trailer-trash non-sailing hunk of bloody vaginal
discharge.

PS: You're scum.



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?

Introduction.
 

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.

Scotty

Introduction.
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.


And now that he's been relegated to the position of stay-at-home dad
because his wife has more workplace earning power, he's even more
humiliated and vengeful. So he takes out his frustrations on people who
are men and have themselves placed in the role of the man of the house -
not some girly-man doing a woman's job like the Boobster.

Wilbur Hubbard

Introduction.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.


And now that he's been relegated to the position of stay-at-home dad
because his wife has more workplace earning power, he's even more
humiliated and vengeful. So he takes out his frustrations on people who
are men and have themselves placed in the role of the man of the house -
not some girly-man doing a woman's job like the Boobster.

Wilbur Hubbard
The "Boobster?" You use colorful language. He is a stay at home dad? I
see, he feels worth less and over compensates. Is that close?

Introduction.
 

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.


And now that he's been relegated to the position of stay-at-home dad
because his wife has more workplace earning power, he's even more
humiliated and vengeful. So he takes out his frustrations on people
who are men and have themselves placed in the role of the man of the
house - not some girly-man doing a woman's job like the Boobster.

Wilbur Hubbard
The "Boobster?" You use colorful language. He is a stay at home dad?
I see, he feels worth less and over compensates. Is that close?


You hit the nail right on the head, sir. But, I forgot to mention he's
fat and out of shape. You know, a couch potato type... And what few
friends he has are flaming liberals so his entire earthly outlook is
skewed toward the victim mentality.

Wilbur Hubbard

Introduction.
 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:20:30 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
et...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.


And now that he's been relegated to the position of stay-at-home dad
because his wife has more workplace earning power, he's even more
humiliated and vengeful. So he takes out his frustrations on people
who are men and have themselves placed in the role of the man of the
house - not some girly-man doing a woman's job like the Boobster.

Wilbur Hubbard
The "Boobster?" You use colorful language. He is a stay at home dad?
I see, he feels worth less and over compensates. Is that close?


You hit the nail right on the head, sir. But, I forgot to mention he's
fat and out of shape. You know, a couch potato type... And what few
friends he has are flaming liberals so his entire earthly outlook is
skewed toward the victim mentality.

Wilbur Hubbard

My hat's off to you Mr. Hubbard. That's the best one-person
discussion I've seen in a while. Your Sock really clarified what you
were saying. :o)

Mark E. Williams

Introduction.
 

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:20:30 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
. net...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...



RB
35s5
NY

How utterly rude. Why does Scotty's élan threaten you so?


It all started back when I had a Mac26S ( not an X), and Bob
had a ''real'' (keel) boat (Pearson 30) and I would outsail
him, sail more often and many more miles than him. It really
worked on him.


And now that he's been relegated to the position of stay-at-home
dad
because his wife has more workplace earning power, he's even more
humiliated and vengeful. So he takes out his frustrations on
people
who are men and have themselves placed in the role of the man of
the
house - not some girly-man doing a woman's job like the Boobster.

Wilbur Hubbard
The "Boobster?" You use colorful language. He is a stay at home
dad?
I see, he feels worth less and over compensates. Is that close?


You hit the nail right on the head, sir. But, I forgot to mention he's
fat and out of shape. You know, a couch potato type... And what few
friends he has are flaming liberals so his entire earthly outlook is
skewed toward the victim mentality.

Wilbur Hubbard

My hat's off to you Mr. Hubbard. That's the best one-person
discussion I've seen in a while. Your Sock really clarified what you
were saying. :o)

Mark E. Williams


How do you figure that? Different headers altogether.

Greg

Introduction.
 

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:31:43 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

snippity-snip


My hat's off to you Mr. Hubbard. That's the best one-person
discussion I've seen in a while. Your Sock really clarified what you
were saying. :o)

Mark E. Williams


How do you figure that? Different headers altogether.

Greg

Just a feeling. Not something I worry or care much about.
I'd need a program to really know who was who in this group.
About 1/4 of the group probably think I'm a sock. :o)
Mark E. Williams

Introduction.
 

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:31:43 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

snippity-snip


My hat's off to you Mr. Hubbard. That's the best one-person
discussion I've seen in a while. Your Sock really clarified what you
were saying. :o)

Mark E. Williams


How do you figure that? Different headers altogether.

Greg

Just a feeling. Not something I worry or care much about.
I'd need a program to really know who was who in this group.
About 1/4 of the group probably think I'm a sock. :o)
Mark E. Williams

Actually, I find it quite an honor to be a suspect, being new to the group
and all.

Introduction.
 

99999
"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in
message ...

Just a feeling. Not something I worry or care much about.
I'd need a program to really know who was who in this
group.
About 1/4 of the group probably think I'm a sock. :o)
Mark E. Williams


sock? I thought you were a boot.

S

Introduction.
 

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
et...

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 11:31:43 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:

snippity-snip


My hat's off to you Mr. Hubbard. That's the best one-person
discussion I've seen in a while. Your Sock really clarified what you
were saying. :o)

Mark E. Williams


How do you figure that? Different headers altogether.

Greg

Just a feeling. Not something I worry or care much about.
I'd need a program to really know who was who in this group.
About 1/4 of the group probably think I'm a sock. :o)
Mark E. Williams

Actually, I find it quite an honor to be a suspect, being new to the group
and all.



Well, welcome whomever you are.... we'll figure it out at some point.. :-)


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