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Bart May 30th 07 07:30 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


Joe May 30th 07 08:02 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,

Joe


[email protected] May 30th 07 08:30 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
Bart wrote:
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


Joe wrote:
pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Fourth way: rainwater from deck leaks can settle on top of tank and
work it's way in

5th way: bilgewater can rise over fuel system lines and get sucked in.

I'm sure that Murphy has devised more than that! I hope I never hear
about them, frankly.

DSK



Joe May 30th 07 08:37 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On May 30, 2:30 pm, wrote:
Bart wrote:
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?

Joe wrote:
pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Fourth way: rainwater from deck leaks can settle on top of tank and
work it's way in

5th way: bilgewater can rise over fuel system lines and get sucked in.

I'm sure that Murphy has devised more than that! I hope I never hear
about them, frankly.

DSK


Also splashed in via the vents.. if the vents have no float balls
above the flame screens. Use to find quite a few copper float balls in
the gulf.

Joe


Bart May 30th 07 09:25 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,

Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.

I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


katy May 30th 07 10:48 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
Bart wrote:
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....

Edgar May 31st 07 08:28 AM

Water in your fuel?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:
What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???



Scout May 31st 07 10:49 AM

Water in your fuel?
 
"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,

Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.

I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout



katy May 31st 07 11:49 AM

Water in your fuel?
 
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....



???


Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy
for settling property line disputes....

Maxprop May 31st 07 02:44 PM

Water in your fuel?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....



???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy for
settling property line disputes....


It never settled anything, rather it provoked inter-family feuds (not the
gameshow type either). Some of those feuds became violent. I think
Michigan was rife with such disputes.

Max



Edgar May 31st 07 03:04 PM

Water in your fuel?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....



???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy for
settling property line disputes....


Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..



Maxprop May 31st 07 03:15 PM

Water in your fuel?
 

"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Edgar wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Bart wrote:

What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy for
settling property line disputes....


Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..


Actually a surveyor could probably settle such disputes more peaceably.

Max



katy May 31st 07 03:37 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
Maxprop wrote:
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"katy" wrote in message
...

Edgar wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy for
settling property line disputes....


Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..



Actually a surveyor could probably settle such disputes more peaceably.

Max


Depends on where you live...there are places where the statutes stillr
ead that if someone maintains a piece of property for 7 years, it's
theirs...so if the piece is not within site and you're not paying
attention, byebye...

katy May 31st 07 04:10 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:37:48 -0400, katy
wrote:


Maxprop wrote:

"Edgar" wrote in message
...


"katy" wrote in message
...


Edgar wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
...



Bart wrote:



What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy for
settling property line disputes....

Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..


Actually a surveyor could probably settle such disputes more peaceably.

Max



Depends on where you live...there are places where the statutes stillr
ead that if someone maintains a piece of property for 7 years, it's
theirs...so if the piece is not within site and you're not paying
attention, byebye...



It's called "Adverse possession", and I believe it requires a court to
award you the property. Almost unheard of in suburban or urban
residential properties.

CWM


But a very popular means of acquiring agricultural land...

Joe May 31st 07 04:57 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On May 31, 4:49 am, "Scout" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.


I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout- Hide quoted text -

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Yelp I disagree too.

My fuel tanks are in an area cool, yet they are vented. Lots of air
exchange from hot to cool with warm air touching the cool insides of
the tank and condensation will form and drip, not much but it happens.
A rocking motion will increase the breathing motion and air exchange.
It's no big deal that is what water seperators are for. I get a
tablespoon or so of water for most 24 hrs using the generator and
main.

Joe


Maxprop June 1st 07 03:45 AM

Water in your fuel?
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"katy" wrote in message
...

Edgar wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy
for settling property line disputes....

Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his
tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..



Actually a surveyor could probably settle such disputes more peaceably.

Max

Depends on where you live...there are places where the statutes stillr ead
that if someone maintains a piece of property for 7 years, it's
theirs...so if the piece is not within site and you're not paying
attention, byebye...


Let me guess: Arkansas, Tennessee, and Michigan?

Max



katy June 1st 07 06:04 AM

Water in your fuel?
 
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"Edgar" wrote in message
...


"katy" wrote in message
...


Edgar wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
...



Bart wrote:



What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


If you consistently mow over the property line so you can make a
squatter's right claim for caretaking....sugar works, too....


???

Putting water or sugar in someone's gas tank is an old country remedy
for settling property line disputes....

Trouble with that is that your neighbour will be stuck at home and will
guess who did it.
Much better to sneak out at night and psition a roof nail under his
tyre.
He will be well down the road before it goes flat and will never be able
to prove it was not an accidental puncture..


Actually a surveyor could probably settle such disputes more peaceably.

Max


Depends on where you live...there are places where the statutes stillr ead
that if someone maintains a piece of property for 7 years, it's
theirs...so if the piece is not within site and you're not paying
attention, byebye...



Let me guess: Arkansas, Tennessee, and Michigan?

Max


Don't know about Arkansas and Tenessee....

Bart June 1st 07 10:58 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On May 31, 5:49 am, "Scout" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

oups.com...



On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.


I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout


Size is the big issue for condensation. Big and more volume,
is more likely to have condensation, right?


Joe June 1st 07 11:03 PM

Water in your fuel?
 
On Jun 1, 4:58 pm, Bart wrote:
On May 31, 5:49 am, "Scout" wrote:





"Bart" wrote in message


roups.com...


On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.


I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout


Size is the big issue for condensation. Big and more volume,
is more likely to have condensation, right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Right

Joe


Scout June 2nd 07 10:14 AM

Water in your fuel?
 
"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 31, 5:49 am, "Scout" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

oups.com...



On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.


I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout


Size is the big issue for condensation. Big and more volume,
is more likely to have condensation, right?


I suppose the greater the mass, the greater the duration that mass will
remain below dew point for a given rise in ambient temperature.
In this neck of the woods, underground tanks produce condensate all summer
long thanks to the mass they are buried in.



Edgar June 2nd 07 02:34 PM

Water in your fuel?
 

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 31, 5:49 am, "Scout" wrote:
"Bart" wrote in message

oups.com...



On May 30, 3:02 pm, Joe wrote:
On May 30, 1:30 pm, Bart wrote:


What are the three ways water can get into your fuel tank?


pumped on, condensation, faulty filler cap seal,


Joe


Everyone had good answers. I was researching this recently
and read an interesting discussion on condensation. The author
felt that condensation was extremely unlikely to occur, and
that this was a myth. I tend to agree with him.


I'd say pumped on, faulty filler cap, ingress via fill hose cap and
the vent hose. That assumes you have no hose leaks--which
would be pretty obvious.


Bart,
I'm not sure what would make an onboard tank less susceptible to
condensation than our 10,000 gallon surface diesel tanks, but they get
condensation all the time and we have to pump them out regularly.
Scout


Size is the big issue for condensation. Big and more volume,
is more likely to have condensation, right?


Only if you leave it empty or only part full. Keep it full and you will be
OK




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