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jlrogers April 18th 07 01:17 PM

How many more?
 
Man is a violent animal. Mayhem and murder is as natural as kindness and
altruism. The surprising thing is that some think it can be changed.

OzOne wrote in message ...

Before proper gun control is instituted.....or are you really that
afraid of everything?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've brder een expecting you.




Joe April 18th 07 03:02 PM

How many more?
 
On Apr 18, 7:21 am, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:17:46 GMT, "jlrogers"
scribbled thusly:

Man is a violent animal. Mayhem and murder is as natural as kindness and
altruism. The surprising thing is that some think it can be changed.


Yes, but why make it easy to kill...all it takes is a little anger and
a twitch of a finger.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.


Is that all it takes for you to kill?

Joe


Bill April 18th 07 09:02 PM

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Yes, but why make it easy to kill...all it takes is a little anger and
a twitch of a finger.


or you could just steer your car a little to the side. Automobiles
are much more dangerous and kill far more people then guns do, should
they be illegal. The number cause of death in the U.S. is heart
disease. This is caused form to much fast food, to much time in front
of the t.v. and to many smokers but are these things illegal? Of
course not, is is the peoples responsibility to look after their own
health but constant streams of fast food ads and t.v. shows make it
"easier" to kill yourself slowly over the years from the products
these companies make. If you are so concerned about lives here in the
U.S. why not advocate forced regulation on peoples diets? That would
help a lot more people.


Joe April 18th 07 11:35 PM

How many more?
 
On Apr 18, 5:10 pm, OzOne wrote:
On 18 Apr 2007 07:02:42 -0700, Joe
scribbled thusly:





On Apr 18, 7:21 am, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:17:46 GMT, "jlrogers"
scribbled thusly:


Man is a violent animal. Mayhem and murder is as natural as kindness and
altruism. The surprising thing is that some think it can be changed.


Yes, but why make it easy to kill...all it takes is a little anger and
a twitch of a finger.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.


I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.


Is that all it takes for you to kill?


Joe


I never have, hopefully never will.
I've been in dozens of situations where, If I lived in the US and was
armed, I would have been perfectly justified in shooting my attacker.
I was thankfully not armed and as such took a beating once or twice
but didn't take a life.
On other occassions I was armed, but my training in the use of that
arm (draw your weapon only when you intend to shoot someone dead)
allowed me to think and persue other means.

Gun owners in the US do not have that training....

Man you are lost OZ.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...eciprocity.htm

Joe

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Bill April 19th 07 01:55 AM

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Texas must be a really scary place with all those concealed handguns,
and the percieved need to have one.


How about Washington D.C. Increadibly high crime rate, no guns
allowed at all. Virginia has a much lower violent crime rate. They
are right next to each other but virginia has a right to carry statute
meaning it is easy to get aconcealed weapons permit. States with
right to carry laws have lower crime rates than those without. This
may be due to other factors but the fact remains that those states are
safer than the ones that are more restrictive of gun ownership and
carry.

States with Right To Carry laws have lower violent crime rates. On
average, they have a 24% lower total violent crime rate, a 19% lower
homicide rate, a 39% lower robbery rate, and a 19% lower aggravated
assault rate, compared to other states and the District of Columbia.
The nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all Right To
Carry states. (Data: FBI)"
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_rtcstates.html


Jeff April 19th 07 02:50 AM

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* Bill wrote, On 4/18/2007 8:55 PM:
Texas must be a really scary place with all those concealed handguns,
and the percieved need to have one.


How about Washington D.C. Increadibly high crime rate, no guns
allowed at all. Virginia has a much lower violent crime rate. They
are right next to each other but virginia has a right to carry statute
meaning it is easy to get aconcealed weapons permit. States with
right to carry laws have lower crime rates than those without. This
may be due to other factors but the fact remains that those states are
safer than the ones that are more restrictive of gun ownership and
carry.

States with Right To Carry laws have lower violent crime rates. On
average, they have a 24% lower total violent crime rate, a 19% lower
homicide rate, a 39% lower robbery rate, and a 19% lower aggravated
assault rate, compared to other states and the District of Columbia.
The nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all Right To
Carry states. (Data: FBI)"
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_rtcstates.html


God, what is with you gun nuts? Your brains are as soft as puppy
****! The very site you quoted was actually showing that the math
used in NRA's "analysis" was completely bogus! The alleged "24% lower
total violent crime" is only 8%, and in fact the "may issue" states
really had 13% lower homicide rate than the "shall issue" states.

(Personally, I don't have much faith in the "violent crime"
statistics, because the meaning of "assault" it highly variable.
Murder, on the other hand, is pretty specific.)

As for comparing DC to Virginia, that's a pretty stupid comparison.
DC is almost entirely inner city, with no political connection to the
surrounding burbs. VA is a large state, with a large suburban and
rural population. However, how do they really stack up? DC has a
very high murder rate, 35 per 100,000 according to the 2005 FBI
numbers. But what about Richmond, VA? They were much higher with 43
per 100,000! So much for your theories!

Joe April 21st 07 02:40 AM

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On Apr 18, 6:17 pm, OzOne wrote:
On 18 Apr 2007 15:35:13 -0700, Joe
scribbled thusly:



Man you are lost OZ.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...ds/chl/recipro...


Joe


Texas must be a really scary place with all those concealed handguns,
and the percieved need to have one.

Wouldn't it be easier if you all just had holsters and Colt 45's...Oh
and Texan hats..and even cigars....Is Clint Eastwood a Texan?

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.


If you carry the weapon in plain view then you need no permit.
You can walk anywhere in the USA with a gun

Like a rifle rack in a truck back window, or fancy leather holsters
that all the cow pokes can see.

Concealed is a bit different and you have to go through training and a
bkgd check.

Clint wishes he was from Texas..he's a Californian.

Joe



Scotty April 21st 07 02:43 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 6:17 pm, OzOne wrote:
On 18 Apr 2007 15:35:13 -0700, Joe


scribbled thusly:



Man you are lost OZ.


http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...rime_records/c

hl/recipro...

Joe


Texas must be a really scary place with all those

concealed handguns,
and the percieved need to have one.

Wouldn't it be easier if you all just had holsters and

Colt 45's...Oh
and Texan hats..and even cigars....Is Clint Eastwood a

Texan?

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.


If you carry the weapon in plain view then you need no

permit.
You can walk anywhere in the USA with a gun



Not in a skool.

SBV




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