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Capt. JG April 14th 07 08:11 PM

too hot or not?
 
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty April 14th 07 08:18 PM

too hot or not?
 
I put one on my truck's Cat, very easy installation.
There's no warning buzzer, correct? Are you really going
to maintain a steady watch on that gauge while motoring?

SBV



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the

current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's

a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust

manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com






Capt. JG April 14th 07 08:41 PM

too hot or not?
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
I put one on my truck's Cat, very easy installation.
There's no warning buzzer, correct? Are you really going
to maintain a steady watch on that gauge while motoring?

SBV



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the

current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's

a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:

http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust

manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


I currently have a warning buzzer tied to oil pressure and water temp, but
the temp alarm comes from the water not the manifold.

I'm just hoping I have relatively easy access. I'm going to check it out
tomorrow.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] April 14th 07 11:06 PM

too hot or not?
 

I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat...


Jonathan I'm not that familiar with the marine application of
pyrometers.

But years ago (and Scotty can correct me if I am not remembering
things correctly)in the trucks we as drivers monitored the pyro-
meter to determin the heat build up in the turbocharger only.

We were still very reliant on the water temp and oil pressure guages
and their respective readings as well.

Bill

(Who loved his 1693 "Cat" to work with.)


Keith nuttle April 14th 07 11:58 PM

too hot or not?
 
Capt. JG wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

If you don't want to putting a hole in the exhaust, you may wish to
consider an infrared thermometer. It is as accurate and measures the
temperature from the infra red radiation from the heating device, Exhaust.

--
Keith Nuttle
3110 Marquette Court
Indianapolis, IN 46268
317-802-0699

Capt. JG April 15th 07 12:24 AM

too hot or not?
 
"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
t...
Capt. JG wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

If you don't want to putting a hole in the exhaust, you may wish to
consider an infrared thermometer. It is as accurate and measures the
temperature from the infra red radiation from the heating device, Exhaust.



Keith... interesting. I'll check that out.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 15th 07 12:40 AM

too hot or not?
 
"Keith nuttle" wrote in message
t...
Capt. JG wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

If you don't want to putting a hole in the exhaust, you may wish to
consider an infrared thermometer. It is as accurate and measures the
temperature from the infra red radiation from the heating device, Exhaust.

--
Keith Nuttle
3110 Marquette Court
Indianapolis, IN 46268
317-802-0699



Hmmm... well, a quick search seems to find that most are very expensive
compared to the kind that require a hole. Also, they don't seem to have a
standard type marine gauge. If you know a source, let me know.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Thom Stewart April 15th 07 02:29 AM

too hot or not?
 
OOPS!
Sorry, didn't read your full post.

For that small diesel, I'd say you are probably OK with the single
Pyrometer but I'm not a Diesel Mech. I got by with a single Temp
indicator for 17 years without a problem.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz


Wilbur Hubbard April 15th 07 04:40 PM

too hot or not?
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
OOPS!
Sorry, didn't read your full post.

For that small diesel, I'd say you are probably OK with the single
Pyrometer but I'm not a Diesel Mech. I got by with a single Temp
indicator for 17 years without a problem.



That proves a temperature gauge is a reliable system worth having. 17
years of motoring almost daily and putting the sails up once or twice a
year means that diesel sure got some hours on it.

Wilbur Hubbard


Scotty April 15th 07 05:17 PM

too hot or not?
 
Overkill


"Keith nuttle" wrote in

If you don't want to putting a hole in the exhaust, you

may wish to
consider an infrared thermometer. It is as accurate and

measures the
temperature from the infra red radiation from the heating

device, Exhaust.

--
Keith Nuttle
3110 Marquette Court
Indianapolis, IN 46268
317-802-0699




Scotty April 15th 07 05:21 PM

too hot or not?
 
On your Swan or your 'other boat'?


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote


I've got 17 years of motoring almost daily and
putting the sails up once or twice a year.

Wilbur Hubbard




LocoWeed April 15th 07 06:46 PM

too hot or not?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
: Overkill

Not for Gaynez. He/she likes to overdo and/or kill everything

LW
:
:
: "Keith nuttle" wrote in
:
: If you don't want to putting a hole in the exhaust, you
: may wish to
: consider an infrared thermometer. It is as accurate and
: measures the
: temperature from the infra red radiation from the heating
: device, Exhaust.
:
: --
: Keith Nuttle
: 3110 Marquette Court
: Indianapolis, IN 46268
: 317-802-0699
:
:



LocoWeed April 15th 07 06:48 PM

too hot or not?
 
Dipstick.
Go back and read Gaynez's post.
You could even try *QUOTING* some of the previous post so that you wouldn't look like
an ass.

LW

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
: Jon.
:
: I'd say;"Don't get to fancy. I'm inclosing a picture of what I used for
: outside Temp on the Pilothouse."
:
: I liked it so much I asked my Son to get me one for the House.
:
: http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz
:
:



Maxprop April 15th 07 07:25 PM

too hot or not?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


Nah. Just wait until the engine seizes, like Capt. Neal does.

Max



Wilbur Hubbard April 15th 07 08:01 PM

too hot or not?
 

"LocoWeed" wrote in message
.. .
Dipstick.
Go back and read Gaynez's post.
You could even try *QUOTING* some of the previous post so that you
wouldn't look like
an ass.

LW



And you could stop making yourself look like a retard by answering posts
on the bottom like you're supposed to. Stupid top-posting twit!

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard April 15th 07 08:10 PM

too hot or not?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage
is for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a
sudden increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


Nah. Just wait until the engine seizes, like Capt. Neal does.

Max


A seized engine would be the very least of the Good Captain's concerns.
After all, he probably starts the engine maybe two or three times a year
just to make sure it still runs. The rest of the time he uses his sails.
He sails off and onto his mooring and he sails everywhere he goes. He
claims he can even sail "Cuts the Mustard" backwards. That's one thing I
admire about the Captain. From reading his website from front to back
I've learned many things. Among them is the fact that Capt. Neal knows
what a sailboat is for and it's for sailing and not for motoring like
everybody here does more than they use their sails.

Ass clowns like Jonathan Ganz have a motor mentality. First they install
a bunch of gadgets about which they are totally ignorant as the proper
installation and care. Then they spend most of their time whining and
complaining that this doesn't work and that doesn't work and until they
can get it figured out they just can't go sailing. It's really very
transparent. They aren't sailors but they like to pretend they are. So
they talk the talk but when it comes to walking the walk they just can't
because they don't really know how. Instead of learning how to sail
their boat all they manage to do is learn how to install a bunch of
unnecessary crap that allows them to constantly tinker. They think
tinkering, fixing, troubleshooting mechanical crap makes them a sailor.
What a hoot!

Wilbur Hubbard


Bart April 16th 07 12:53 AM

too hot or not?
 
On Apr 14, 3:11 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


If you have a turbo I think it makes sense.


Scotty April 16th 07 02:22 AM

too hot or not?
 
I agree.

SBV


"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message ...

"LocoWeed" wrote in message
.. .
Dipstick.
Go back and read Gaynez's post.
You could even try *QUOTING* some of the previous post

so that you
wouldn't look like
an ass.

LW



And you could stop making yourself look like a retard by

answering posts
on the bottom.

Wilbur Hubbard




Joe April 16th 07 03:02 AM

too hot or not?
 
On Apr 14, 2:11 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

--
"j" ganz


I'd just stick with the water temp gauge. Drilling and tapping cast
iron can be difficult, might lead to cracking.

Joe



Jonathan Ganz April 16th 07 05:28 AM

too hot or not?
 
Agree with what?

In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote:
I agree.

SBV

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz April 16th 07 05:29 AM

too hot or not?
 
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


Nah. Just wait until the engine seizes, like Capt. Neal does.


Ah... So, the black smoke and pegged water temp gauge is a bad thing
then?

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz April 16th 07 05:31 AM

too hot or not?
 
In article .com,
Bart wrote:
On Apr 14, 3:11 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


If you have a turbo I think it makes sense.


When I had her surveyed, the surveyor thought I should look into
it. There's nothing wrong with the gauge, but he claimed he's done it
with all his sailboats over the years.




--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz April 16th 07 05:32 AM

too hot or not?
 
In article . com,
Joe wrote:
On Apr 14, 2:11 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is for
water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this:http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

--
"j" ganz


I'd just stick with the water temp gauge. Drilling and tapping cast
iron can be difficult, might lead to cracking.


I'm definitely concerned about breaking something that's fixed and
working. g

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Maxprop April 16th 07 11:05 PM

too hot or not?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?


Nah. Just wait until the engine seizes, like Capt. Neal does.


Ah... So, the black smoke and pegged water temp gauge is a bad thing
then?


Sure, but the sudden stoppage of the engine is the dead giveaway.

Max



Jonathan Ganz April 17th 07 12:31 AM

too hot or not?
 
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I'm considering adding a pyrometer to my boat.. the current temp gage is
for water, and I've heard from several sources that if there's a sudden
increase, it might not offer enough warning.

Something like this: http://www.livorsi.com/catalog/pyrometers.htm

However, I'm concerned about putting a hole in my exhaust manifold.

Anybody done this? Tips/tricks/things to watchout for?

Nah. Just wait until the engine seizes, like Capt. Neal does.


Ah... So, the black smoke and pegged water temp gauge is a bad thing
then?


Sure, but the sudden stoppage of the engine is the dead giveaway.


I wondered why I'm always sailing into the berth.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com




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