Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...ayphotohosting

Joe

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...ayphotohosting

Joe


Good Lord, what a pile of ****! Can't believe anybody would waste
another penny on junk like that.

Wilbur Hubbard

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

Joe wrote:
Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...ayphotohosting

Joe

Cause the rest of us in the marina would haul it out and let it adrift
in front of Cherry Point so they could use it for target
practice...ugh...that's not work..that's junk...

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

On Apr 1, 2:30 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...CHOONER_W0QQcm...

Joe

Cause the rest of us in the marina would haul it out and let it adrift
in front of Cherry Point so they could use it for target
practice...ugh...that's not work..that's junk...

You guys and gals have no vision. With a bit of spit and polish, and
some elbow grease you could have this :

http://www.psc.edu/~deerfiel/Photos0...h103-2-8-7.jpg

Joe

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

Joe wrote:
On Apr 1, 2:30 pm, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...CHOONER_W0QQcm...

Joe

Cause the rest of us in the marina would haul it out and let it adrift
in front of Cherry Point so they could use it for target
practice...ugh...that's not work..that's junk...


You guys and gals have no vision. With a bit of spit and polish, and
some elbow grease you could have this :

http://www.psc.edu/~deerfiel/Photos0...h103-2-8-7.jpg

Joe

Pretty but no thanks....too much work...too much boat for two people...

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

Joe wrote:
Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...CHOONER_W0QQcm...


For my grandkids.

You guys and gals have no vision. With a bit of spit and polish, and
some elbow grease you could have this :

http://www.psc.edu/~deerfiel/Photos0...h103-2-8-7.jpg


That's not a "project boat" it's not a boat of any kind. It is a
lifetime project.. That is going to take a lot more than spit &
polish. It's going to take at least $100K in materials and tens of
thousands of man hours before it's ready to float.

Besides being a pointy steel box, it's got a Detroit diesel. It will
never ever look like the boat in the picture.

If you had a million dollars, you might be able to pay me to take this
"boat." Or it might take two million and a gun.

DSK

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

On Apr 2, 11:04 am, Nathan Branden wrote:
On 31 Mar 2007 10:30:27 -0700, "Joe" wrote:

Check out this project boat.. Its local to you, would make a nice live
aboard.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAILB...CHOONER_W0QQcm...

Joe

That is not as much of a project as everyone is crying about if you
have the experience of dealing with a steel boat. The hours spent
"fixing" her up will be paid back by all the carefree hours a steel
boat provides. No worrying about gel coat or wood rot. Want to add
something then just weld it on. Steel is really low maintenance and
has longevity second to none. Steel rusts on the surface first so it
is easy to spot and fix. No water logged balsa cores, no toredo worms.
A nice consistent surface easy to prep and paint. No deadly silicates
to breath. No smell of plastic, no glass splinters, no oil canning.
Steel is the easiest to repair of all boat materials.

Nathan

Indeed Nathen. And she has a 1/4 thick hull that's never seen the
water. Her keel is 1/2"

The only problem I see is as other's stated... she may be a bit much
for a couple to sail, unless you had deep pockets to rig her. So
unless you want to carry crew then she's not the best choice.

Her Detroit Diesel is the work horse of the world, only a spoiled
rotton yachty would not be happy with a Detroit.

Joe

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

That is not as much of a project as everyone is crying about if you
have the experience of dealing with a steel boat.

No crying, just the facts.

..... Want to add
something then just weld it on.

Fiberglass is even easier yet, it's stronger, and it doesn't rust.



.... Steel is really low maintenance and
has longevity second to none.


Tell that to the Navy. How many steel ships have the decommissioned
over the years?



Steel is the easiest to repair of all boat materials.


No it isn't. Not by far.


Indeed Nathen. And she has a 1/4 thick hull that's never seen the
water.

And pro ably never will.


The only problem I see is as other's stated... she may be a bit much
for a couple to sail, unless you had deep pockets to rig her. So
unless you want to carry crew then she's not the best choice.


Agreed.

Her Detroit Diesel is the work horse of the world, only a spoiled
rotton yachty would not be happy with a Detroit.

Or simply a person who did not want a very noisy & cantankerous engine
that spewed finlthy oil mist all over the boat.

DSK

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

On Apr 2, 8:25 pm, wrote:
That is not as much of a project as everyone is crying about if you
have the experience of dealing with a steel boat.

No crying, just the facts.

Fact time 3 maybe

..... Want to add
something then just weld it on.

Fiberglass is even easier yet, it's stronger, and it doesn't rust.

Not easier, cracks, core rot, ect, more expensive and a pain in the
ass to work with,

.... Steel is really low maintenance and
has longevity second to none.

Tell that to the Navy. How many steel ships have the decommissioned
over the years?

Not and many Navy steel ship have been de-commissioned as Navy
fiberglass boats.

Steel is the easiest to repair of all boat materials.

No it isn't. Not by far.

Easier than fiberglass

Indeed Nathen. And she has a 1/4 thick hull that's never seen the
water.

And pro ably never will.



The only problem I see is as other's stated... she may be a bit much
for a couple to sail, unless you had deep pockets to rig her. So
unless you want to carry crew then she's not the best choice.

Agreed.

Her Detroit Diesel is the work horse of the world, only a spoiled
rotton yachty would not be happy with a Detroit.

Or simply a person who did not want a very noisy & cantankerous engine
that spewed finlthy oil mist all over the boat.

Well they keep running while spraying mist, but I prefer to replace
gaskets when needed, and you can get parts anywhere on earth, just
like steel.

Joe
DSK

Hey Doug ditch that tug
 

"Joe" wrote:
..... Want to add
something then just weld it on.

Fiberglass is even easier yet, it's stronger, and it doesn't rust.

Not easier, cracks, core rot, ect, more expensive and a pain in the
ass to work with,


Steel doesn't crack? And only unsealed wood core rots, and even when
it does, it is not so difficult to replace.

Pound for pound, fiberglass is stronger and it also has higher fatigue
resistance.

That's why smaller lighter boats are better off to be built of
fiberglass. If two structures are of equal strength, then the lighter
one is made of the stronger material (and/or had better engineering
design). Basic fact, sorry Joe.


Steel is the easiest to repair of all boat materials.

No it isn't. Not by far.

Easier than fiberglass


Baloney. If steel really was easier to work (not to mention cheaper)
than fiberglass, then most of the mass-produced boats in the world
would be steel. Mass production rewards cheapest (ie easiest) labor &
cost.


Her Detroit Diesel is the work horse of the world, only a spoiled
rotton yachty would not be happy with a Detroit.

Or simply a person who did not want a very noisy & cantankerous engine
that spewed finlthy oil mist all over the boat.


Well they keep running while spraying mist,

Yep, until the racks get slightly out of adjustment. Or a million
other things.


but I prefer to replace
gaskets when needed, and you can get parts anywhere on earth, just
like steel.


Guess what, it ain't the 1940s any more. You can get fiberglass &
resin anywhere in the world, too. Probably more easily available than
steel & welding supplies. And you can certainly carry decent working
supplies with you.

DSK