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Joe March 26th 07 02:09 PM

5 Boats Burn here
 
Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


Five boats catch fire at South Shore Harbour

By Sara McDonald
The Daily News

Published March 26, 2007

LEAGUE CITY - Three people were hospitalized after a luxury cruiser
exploded and four other boats caught fire at the South Shore Harbour
marina about 5:30 Sunday night.

Two men were aboard the 50-foot yacht when it ignited, sending a
pillar of flames and black smoke into the sky, League City Volunteer
Fire Department District Chief Bryan Holmes said.

Emergency responders rescued one of the passengers floating in the
water five boat slips down from where the boat was docked.

The two men aboard the boat were taken by helicopter to Memorial
Hermann Hospital. Their names and conditions were not released, but
workers on the scene said they were being treated for severe burn
injuries. A third man was transported by ambulance to St. John's
Hospital. It is not known if he was aboard any of the boats or not.

One man started hosing down the boat next to the exploded yacht to
keep it from igniting, but the fire spread to it anyway, League City
resident Christina Felts, who witnessed the fire, said.

The fire spread to the boat next to it and three boats that were
across from it, destroying two of them and severely damaging the other
two.

All five boats that caught on fire were luxury cruiser yachts between
50 and 60 feet long, Holmes said.

Jeff Wisocki, who lives in The Palms apartment complex that backs up
to the marina, said he heard the explosion from inside his apartment.

"You could hear the windows shake," he said. "I thought it was thunder
or something huge. Then I looked outside and saw the flames."

Wisocki said he heard his neighbor above him calling 911 from his
deck, so he went outside and tried to help.

He and another apartment resident, John McLaurin, helped Coast Guard
workers pull a wooden boat out of a nearby slip to keep it from
catching fire.

The boat that exploded sunk and began leaking fuel into the water.
Specialty emergency workers from Garner Environmental Services
cordoned off the area and placed a boom in the water to keep the fuel
from spreading, U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Adam Wine said.

They were also monitoring the gas content in the air to make sure
nothing reignited.

Hundreds of people inside the South Shore Harbour center lined the
balcony overlooking the dock, watching the fire, Holmes said.

Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.

Firefighters from Kemah, Dickinson, Seabrook and League City, along
with the U.S. Coast Guard, responded to the scene.

It took about 30 minutes to put the fire out, League City Volunteer
Fire Department Capt. Ray Bigonesse said.

The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


katy March 26th 07 02:18 PM

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Joe wrote:
Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4 boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be? Does the original boat's liability insurance pay for the repairs
to the marina?

Joe March 26th 07 02:39 PM

5 Boats Burn here
 
On Mar 26, 8:18 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4 boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be? Does the original boat's liability insurance pay for the repairs
to the marina?


The boat that burns pay to fix everything.
We had some clowns 30 ftr catch on fire here in the yard, he caught a
nice 50 ft yacht on fire and melted the side.
He had no insurance, so they sued the marina. Luckly the marina owner
has a release of liabilty form everyone has to sign to be hauled out.

Joe


katy March 26th 07 03:19 PM

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Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:18 am, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4 boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be? Does the original boat's liability insurance pay for the repairs
to the marina?



The boat that burns pay to fix everything.
We had some clowns 30 ftr catch on fire here in the yard, he caught a
nice 50 ft yacht on fire and melted the side.
He had no insurance, so they sued the marina. Luckly the marina owner
has a release of liabilty form everyone has to sign to be hauled out.

Joe

I'm surprised the marina didn't insist that they have liability
insurance...ours won't let you in without it and they want an updated
policy every year...which is as it should be...I am thankful that there
are no gasoline engines anywhere near our boat...

Joe March 26th 07 03:29 PM

5 Boats Burn here
 
On Mar 26, 9:19 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 8:18 am, katy wrote:


Joe wrote:


Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4 boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be? Does the original boat's liability insurance pay for the repairs
to the marina?


The boat that burns pay to fix everything.
We had some clowns 30 ftr catch on fire here in the yard, he caught a
nice 50 ft yacht on fire and melted the side.
He had no insurance, so they sued the marina. Luckly the marina owner
has a release of liabilty form everyone has to sign to be hauled out.


Joe


I'm surprised the marina didn't insist that they have liability
insurance...ours won't let you in without it and they want an updated
policy every year...which is as it should be...I am thankful that there
are no gasoline engines anywhere near our boat...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I'm surrounded by wood buildings full of big cigar boats full of high
octane fuel.
I keep a razor sharp burma machette handy so I can get out in about
30 seconds.

Joe


Martin Baxter March 26th 07 03:49 PM

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Joe wrote:



Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.



The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


Hummmm, boat for sale, fuel leak, gee do ya think someone could use the
words "insurance" and "arson" in the same sentence?

Cheers
Marty

Joe March 26th 07 04:35 PM

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On Mar 26, 9:49 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.


The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


Hummmm, boat for sale, fuel leak, gee do ya think someone could use the
words "insurance" and "arson" in the same sentence?

Cheers
Marty


I might agree if they were not blown up and burned so badly.
The life flight helos were busy.

Joe


katy March 26th 07 04:40 PM

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Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 9:19 am, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Mar 26, 8:18 am, katy wrote:


Joe wrote:


Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4 boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be? Does the original boat's liability insurance pay for the repairs
to the marina?


The boat that burns pay to fix everything.
We had some clowns 30 ftr catch on fire here in the yard, he caught a
nice 50 ft yacht on fire and melted the side.
He had no insurance, so they sued the marina. Luckly the marina owner
has a release of liabilty form everyone has to sign to be hauled out.


Joe


I'm surprised the marina didn't insist that they have liability
insurance...ours won't let you in without it and they want an updated
policy every year...which is as it should be...I am thankful that there
are no gasoline engines anywhere near our boat...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



I'm surrounded by wood buildings full of big cigar boats full of high
octane fuel.
I keep a razor sharp burma machette handy so I can get out in about
30 seconds.

Joe

That'll cut through steel, huh? (snicker)

Wilbur Hubbard March 26th 07 05:01 PM

5 Boats Burn here
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Looked like a giant pile of tires burning, the smoke was so black and
thick.


Five boats catch fire at South Shore Harbour

By Sara McDonald
The Daily News

Published March 26, 2007

LEAGUE CITY - Three people were hospitalized after a luxury cruiser
exploded and four other boats caught fire at the South Shore Harbour
marina about 5:30 Sunday night.

Two men were aboard the 50-foot yacht when it ignited, sending a
pillar of flames and black smoke into the sky, League City Volunteer
Fire Department District Chief Bryan Holmes said.

Emergency responders rescued one of the passengers floating in the
water five boat slips down from where the boat was docked.

The two men aboard the boat were taken by helicopter to Memorial
Hermann Hospital. Their names and conditions were not released, but
workers on the scene said they were being treated for severe burn
injuries. A third man was transported by ambulance to St. John's
Hospital. It is not known if he was aboard any of the boats or not.

One man started hosing down the boat next to the exploded yacht to
keep it from igniting, but the fire spread to it anyway, League City
resident Christina Felts, who witnessed the fire, said.

The fire spread to the boat next to it and three boats that were
across from it, destroying two of them and severely damaging the other
two.

All five boats that caught on fire were luxury cruiser yachts between
50 and 60 feet long, Holmes said.

Jeff Wisocki, who lives in The Palms apartment complex that backs up
to the marina, said he heard the explosion from inside his apartment.

"You could hear the windows shake," he said. "I thought it was thunder
or something huge. Then I looked outside and saw the flames."

Wisocki said he heard his neighbor above him calling 911 from his
deck, so he went outside and tried to help.

He and another apartment resident, John McLaurin, helped Coast Guard
workers pull a wooden boat out of a nearby slip to keep it from
catching fire.

The boat that exploded sunk and began leaking fuel into the water.
Specialty emergency workers from Garner Environmental Services
cordoned off the area and placed a boom in the water to keep the fuel
from spreading, U.S. Coast Guard spokesman Adam Wine said.

They were also monitoring the gas content in the air to make sure
nothing reignited.

Hundreds of people inside the South Shore Harbour center lined the
balcony overlooking the dock, watching the fire, Holmes said.

Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.

Firefighters from Kemah, Dickinson, Seabrook and League City, along
with the U.S. Coast Guard, responded to the scene.

It took about 30 minutes to put the fire out, League City Volunteer
Fire Department Capt. Ray Bigonesse said.

The cause of the fire is still under investigation.



One more good reason to stay the f*ck out of marinas! I'd say those
people got what they deserved for their stupidity of keeping their boats
in a marina and paying an arm and a leg for the privilege of putting
their vessels in danger.

Wilbur Hubbard


Martin Baxter March 26th 07 05:01 PM

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Joe wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:49 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.


The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


Hummmm, boat for sale, fuel leak, gee do ya think someone could use the
words "insurance" and "arson" in the same sentence?

Cheers
Marty


I might agree if they were not blown up and burned so badly.
The life flight helos were busy.

Joe


Sorry I didn't catch that part, you have to be a pretty cold ******* to
bring harm to others, unless some miscalculated and only meant for it to
burn and not explode.

Cheers
Marty

Joe March 26th 07 05:14 PM

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On Mar 26, 11:01 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:49 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:


Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.


The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


Hummmm, boat for sale, fuel leak, gee do ya think someone could use the
words "insurance" and "arson" in the same sentence?


Cheers
Marty


I might agree if they were not blown up and burned so badly.
The life flight helos were busy.


Joe


Sorry I didn't catch that part, you have to be a pretty cold ******* to
bring harm to others, unless some miscalculated and only meant for it to
burn and not explode.

Cheers
Marty- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Click on the video link (close the chevy commerical) and the blazing
boats were caught on film.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=5150679

Joe


Wilbur Hubbard March 26th 07 05:27 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Mar 26, 11:01 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

On Mar 26, 9:49 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:


Wisocki said the boat that exploded was for sale and that the
marina
salesperson told him that it had a fuel leak.


The cause of the fire is still under investigation.


Hummmm, boat for sale, fuel leak, gee do ya think someone could
use the
words "insurance" and "arson" in the same sentence?


Cheers
Marty


I might agree if they were not blown up and burned so badly.
The life flight helos were busy.


Joe


Sorry I didn't catch that part, you have to be a pretty cold *******
to
bring harm to others, unless some miscalculated and only meant for it
to
burn and not explode.

Cheers
Marty- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Click on the video link (close the chevy commerical) and the blazing
boats were caught on film.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=5150679

Joe



It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to them.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard March 26th 07 05:52 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:18:54 -0400, katy
said:

A curiosity question: If something like that happens on a dock, whose
insurance pays for the other boats that were damaged? Does the
otiginal
cruiser's liablilty insurance cover the destruction to the other 4
boats
since they were" innocent bystanders" sitting where they were supposed
to be?


You're approaching the question backwards. Liability policies don't
pay
because the injured party was an innocent bystander. They pay because
their
insured was at fault. So the answer is that if the liability carrier
believes its insured was at fault, as opposed to simply the victim of
an
unfortunate accident, it will pay for the injuries to the others.

A fine distinction, I know, but our society is becoming more and more
absorbed with the idea that anyone who is injured somehow is entitled
to be
paid for the injury by someone else, regardless of fault.


It's called socialism. It's a plank in the Democrat party platform. It's
taught in the liberal public schools. Never take personal
responsibility. There's always somebody else at fault. Blame them.
Demand they pay. And if they can't pay then demand the government pay.
Keep raising taxes.

Wilbur Hubbard


Martin Baxter March 26th 07 05:59 PM

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Joe wrote:

- Show quoted text -


Click on the video link (close the chevy commerical) and the blazing
boats were caught on film.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=5150679


Nast stuff, hope the burned folks pull through ok.

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter March 26th 07 06:01 PM

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?

Martin

Jonathan Ganz March 26th 07 06:17 PM

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In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?

Martin


Forget it Martin. He's a troll.


--
Capt. JG @@
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Wilbur Hubbard March 26th 07 06:21 PM

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to
them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?

Martin



Self-inflicted wounds caused by their own stupidity and/or ineptitude. I
have no sympathy for stupid people who hurt themselves. They made their
own bed; let them lie in it. . .

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard March 26th 07 06:22 PM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article , Martin Baxter
wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:



It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to
them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?

Martin


Forget it Martin. He's a troll.



Better troll than a self-professed illegal drug abuser. Should I post
the evidence again?

Wilbur Hubbard


Joe March 26th 07 06:27 PM

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On Mar 26, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

...

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to
them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?


Martin


Self-inflicted wounds caused by their own stupidity and/or ineptitude. I
have no sympathy for stupid people who hurt themselves. They made their
own bed; let them lie in it. . .

Wilbur Hubbard


One of the burn victims was a 17 YO kid. Perhaps he was so green he
did not have a clue as to the dangers of Gasoline on a boat. Sure the
Skipper should have known better, but do not assume everyone who got
burned was playing with fire.

Joe


Jonathan Ganz March 26th 07 07:09 PM

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In article . com,
Joe wrote:
On Mar 26, 12:21 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

...

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to
them.


You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?


Martin


Self-inflicted wounds caused by their own stupidity and/or ineptitude. I
have no sympathy for stupid people who hurt themselves. They made their
own bed; let them lie in it. . .

Wilbur Hubbard


One of the burn victims was a 17 YO kid. Perhaps he was so green he
did not have a clue as to the dangers of Gasoline on a boat. Sure the
Skipper should have known better, but do not assume everyone who got
burned was playing with fire.


Forget it Joe. Neal isn't interested in people, other than how he can
use them and/or harm them. He's clearly delusional and the best thing
we can do for him is ignore him.
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



katy March 26th 07 07:58 PM

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Martin Baxter wrote:
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:


It's good to see power boats burn. No big loss. Good riddance to them.



You callous cur, four people were hurt, two of them apparently badly
burned. Ever known anyone badly burned, ever worked in a burn ward?

Martin


I worked in one for one weekend at Cardinal Glennon CHildren's Hospital
in St. Louis...for exactly one weekend...I transferred out to the
Neurology ward because it was just too much for me to take in at the
time..I had toddlers at the time and wouild go home so upset becasue of
the screaminmg and crying and the smell that I was afraid it would
affect my kids...burn units are the most horrible places in
hospitals...on all fronts, emotionally, visually, and olfactory...the
people who work there continuously are saints...

Scotty March 27th 07 01:50 AM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
I keep a razor sharp burma machette handy so I can get

out in about
30 seconds.

Joe

That'll cut through rust, huh? (snicker)


Yelp.



Martin Baxter March 27th 07 02:29 PM

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katy wrote:
..burn units are the most horrible places in
hospitals...on all fronts, emotionally, visually, and olfactory...the
people who work there continuously are saints...



Amen

Jonathan Ganz March 27th 07 05:36 PM

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In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
..burn units are the most horrible places in
hospitals...on all fronts, emotionally, visually, and olfactory...the
people who work there continuously are saints...



Amen


Same here. I visited a friend in the hospital who was scalded by an
exploding pan... he forgot about it on the stovetop. Got lucky and was
just leaving the kitchen when it went.
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



LLoyd Bonafide March 31st 07 12:24 AM

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Is that machete to cut the rope on a giant catapult that will launch you and
Ms Terry away to safety?

How are you going to pull that rusting hulk out of the mud within 30
seconds? 30 hours?

I thought iron boats could withstand a little heat. It might anneal the
rust.

The machete won't help you when you are asleep and the fire has a chance to
grow much larger.

You are doomed in that watery trailer park.

Lloyd



LLoyd Bonafide March 31st 07 12:25 AM

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No fault insurance cures all ills.

hahaha!

Lloyd




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