I was reading the book "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart Ehrman (about how
there were so many errors in the coping of the New Testament that we
can't ever know what the original text was) and came across something
that might be of interest.

He was describing how many manuscripts used abbreviations, and then a
scribe would misinterpret the meaning of the abbreviation. Here's an
example:

'Similarly, in 1 Cor. 12:13, Paul points out that everyone in Christ
has been "baptized into one body" and they have all "drunk of one
Spirit." The word "Spirit" (PNEUMA) would have been abbreviated in
some manuscripts as PMA [with a bar on top to signify abbreviation],
which understandably could be - and was - misread by some scribes as
the Greek word for "drink" (POMA), and so in these witnesses Paul is
said to indicate that all have "drunk of one drink." '


And I'll drink to that!

"Jeff" wrote in message
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I was reading the book "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart Ehrman (about how
there were so many errors in the coping of the New Testament that we
can't ever know what the original text was) and came across something
that might be of interest.

He was describing how many manuscripts used abbreviations, and then a
scribe would misinterpret the meaning of the abbreviation. Here's an
example:

'Similarly, in 1 Cor. 12:13, Paul points out that everyone in Christ
has been "baptized into one body" and they have all "drunk of one
Spirit." The word "Spirit" (PNEUMA) would have been abbreviated in
some manuscripts as PMA [with a bar on top to signify abbreviation],
which understandably could be - and was - misread by some scribes as
the Greek word for "drink" (POMA), and so in these witnesses Paul is
said to indicate that all have "drunk of one drink." '

Wine = spirit = drink. So what's the big deal? And don't believe that
crap about translators or transcribers of that time period being too
stupid to know an abbreviation when they saw one. Give them a little
more credit, please.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/17/2007 1:28 PM:

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
I was reading the book "Misquoting Jesus" by Bart Ehrman (about how
there were so many errors in the coping of the New Testament that we
can't ever know what the original text was) and came across something
that might be of interest.

He was describing how many manuscripts used abbreviations, and then a
scribe would misinterpret the meaning of the abbreviation. Here's an
example:

'Similarly, in 1 Cor. 12:13, Paul points out that everyone in Christ
has been "baptized into one body" and they have all "drunk of one
Spirit." The word "Spirit" (PNEUMA) would have been abbreviated in
some manuscripts as PMA [with a bar on top to signify abbreviation],
which understandably could be - and was - misread by some scribes as
the Greek word for "drink" (POMA), and so in these witnesses Paul is
said to indicate that all have "drunk of one drink." '

Wine = spirit = drink. So what's the big deal? And don't believe that
crap about translators or transcribers of that time period being too
stupid to know an abbreviation when they saw one. Give them a little
more credit, please.

A man by the name of John Mill published a Greek version from
manuscript in 1707. He also had access to about 100 additional
versions of the Greek bible in manuscript and included all of the the
variances that he found in 30 years of research. It came to 30,000
differences.

This created quite a brouhaha at the time. However, now we have about
5000 ancient manuscripts, some complete Bibles, others small
fragments, and when all of the variations were complied (actually just
estimated), it came up to 200,000 to 400,000. This is more than the
number of words in the New Testament!

Thanks Jeff,

And for Neal/wilbur; PNEUMA= Spirit=invisible force=pneumatic=power that
fills sails=sail boat's motion; That is where the boats name came from.

God's force is unseen but exists (PNEUMA). It is the Force of the
"Almighty" and some times stated as God but it is less than GOD
ALMIGHTY. That Jeff is my interpretation and probably wrong. I was a
Pneumatic Expert in real life and a Sailor (What else) The name of my
boat had to be "PNEUMA" That was the invisible force driven vessel.

Drink had nothing to do with it. My first boat here in the NW was named
"HUFF & PUFF"


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Jeff,

You are also correct. The Bible is so screwed up in translations that
anyone that believes in it, word for word, is so hopelessly brainwashed
that it's useless to attempt to explain it to them.

They take the error as the truth and use make believe scenarios to make
the Bible Acceptable.

I'm afraid they lack in the "FAITH OF THEIR GOD!"


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