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We are changing our propeller to our 32 ft sailing boat and wondering weather to choose folding or feathering propeller? What kind of practical experience do you have from these feathering ones and what are the benefits and disbenefits comparing to folding ones? For us folding propellers are more familiar, but after seeking information from web, we decide to check this feathering option too. Do you have also some "good recommendations" for appropriate propeller (now we have thought Volvo, Gori or Kiwiprop). Thank you in advance. Regards, - Sailor from Scandinavia. |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Dear all We are changing our propeller to our 32 ft sailing boat and wondering weather to choose folding or feathering propeller? What kind of practical experience do you have from these feathering ones and what are the benefits and disbenefits comparing to folding ones? Are you competing at a high level in regattas? If not, then buy a fixed prop and use the saved money for something else more important. If you really want to throw money at a fancy prop, get a Brunton Autoprop. A brilliant piece of kit that permits low drag sailing and efficient motor-sailing. |
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... wrote in message oups.com... Dear all We are changing our propeller to our 32 ft sailing boat and wondering weather to choose folding or feathering propeller? What kind of practical experience do you have from these feathering ones and what are the benefits and disbenefits comparing to folding ones? Are you competing at a high level in regattas? If not, then buy a fixed prop and use the saved money for something else more important. If you really want to throw money at a fancy prop, get a Brunton Autoprop. A brilliant piece of kit that permits low drag sailing and efficient motor-sailing. I think that really is the key question. My experience has mostly been with fixed-blade. I'm sure a quick google search will produce the +/- for the different options. A quick search produced this, which gives some decent info... http://www.endeavourowners.com/dscsn...ion/props.html -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Any sailboat will benifit from a folding prop. It's a 1/2 kt gain.
There is no downside. When docking etc. you just plan in advance. There's a little less power in reverse. You should never approach a dock harder than yo'ur willing to hit it anyway. |
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![]() "Ringmaster" wrote in message oups.com... Any sailboat will benifit from a folding prop. It's a 1/2 kt gain. There is no downside. When docking etc. you just plan in advance. There's a little less power in reverse. You should never approach a dock harder than yo'ur willing to hit it anyway. If you get a Brunton, it works equally efficiently in reverse. Same can be said for Maxprop and other feathering (as opposed tofolding) props. But the big advantage of the Brunton is that it is self-pitching and adjusts itself to best pitch no matter what the engine regime or boat speed. Folding props are not much good on a cruising boat. Terrible reverse braking, and no significant speed advantage over a feathering prop. If you google around you will find a very good pdf tabular comparison of all props done by a German university. Somebody else may have a reference. The police nicked my old computer eight months ago so I no longer have a reference to it... |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... Dear all We are changing our propeller to our 32 ft sailing boat and wondering weather to choose folding or feathering propeller? What kind of practical experience do you have from these feathering ones and what are the benefits and disbenefits comparing to folding ones? For us folding propellers are more familiar, but after seeking information from web, we decide to check this feathering option too. Do you have also some "good recommendations" for appropriate propeller (now we have thought Volvo, Gori or Kiwiprop). Thank you in advance. Regards, - Sailor from Scandinavia. I have a 38' yacht with a Maxprop 2-blade feathering propeller which offers negligible resistance when feathered. I think it is better than a folding propeller because it is highly efficient in reverse and you can dock in a civilised manner under full control with the engine just above idling and do not have to rev up the engine in reverse to get decent braking as you do with a folding prop. Some will say that the relatively flat blades of a Maxprop are less efficient than the more conventionally shaped blades of a folding propeller but as mine is a sailing yacht, not a power boat, and I can get up to over 7 knots under power at 2/3 throttle why should this concern me? The only downside I can speak of is that here in Norway I am finding it very hard to find supplies of the very thin grease you need to lubricate it. It needs Esso Cazar K6 or equivalent. I found some last year but now none of the Esso agents seem to stock it and the Lubriplate equivalent they recommend in USA is unheard of here. I am working on this problem as we speak. |
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I have a three bladed "flexo-fold" prop. Seems fine and I have had nor
problem with reverse (not down to the prop anyway!). www.flexofold.com Regards -- Derek Lumb Westerly Typhoon "Whispered Secret" NWVYC "Edgar" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... Dear all We are changing our propeller to our 32 ft sailing boat and wondering weather to choose folding or feathering propeller? What kind of practical experience do you have from these feathering ones and what are the benefits and disbenefits comparing to folding ones? For us folding propellers are more familiar, but after seeking information from web, we decide to check this feathering option too. Do you have also some "good recommendations" for appropriate propeller (now we have thought Volvo, Gori or Kiwiprop). Thank you in advance. Regards, - Sailor from Scandinavia. I have a 38' yacht with a Maxprop 2-blade feathering propeller which offers negligible resistance when feathered. I think it is better than a folding propeller because it is highly efficient in reverse and you can dock in a civilised manner under full control with the engine just above idling and do not have to rev up the engine in reverse to get decent braking as you do with a folding prop. Some will say that the relatively flat blades of a Maxprop are less efficient than the more conventionally shaped blades of a folding propeller but as mine is a sailing yacht, not a power boat, and I can get up to over 7 knots under power at 2/3 throttle why should this concern me? The only downside I can speak of is that here in Norway I am finding it very hard to find supplies of the very thin grease you need to lubricate it. It needs Esso Cazar K6 or equivalent. I found some last year but now none of the Esso agents seem to stock it and the Lubriplate equivalent they recommend in USA is unheard of here. I am working on this problem as we speak. |
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![]() "Derek Lumb" wrote in message ... I have a three bladed "flexo-fold" prop. Seems fine and I have had nor problem with reverse (not down to the prop anyway!). www.flexofold.com Regards My prop is a fixed, three-bladed type. It has less drag than any folding or feathering prop ever made. As a matter of fact, it has no drag at all when under sail. It never needs to be cleaned of marine growth and it never needs anti-fouling paint. It costs about a hundred dollars. It weighs less than a pound. It can be removed and re-installed in about two minutes. It is clearly superior in every way to any folding or feathering propeller. Wilbur Hubbard |
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:04:58 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
"Derek Lumb" wrote in message ... I have a three bladed "flexo-fold" prop. Seems fine and I have had nor problem with reverse (not down to the prop anyway!). www.flexofold.com Regards My prop is a fixed, three-bladed type. It has less drag than any folding or feathering prop ever made. As a matter of fact, it has no drag at all when under sail. It never needs to be cleaned of marine growth and it never needs anti-fouling paint. It costs about a hundred dollars. It weighs less than a pound. It can be removed and re-installed in about two minutes. It is clearly superior in every way to any folding or feathering propeller. Wilbur Hubbard Wilbur! I have the latest five blade model of this. It has anti snare too, a must for sailing right through those pesky drift nets and pots they insist on dumping around here. I'm told that the manufacturers are looking at developing the vortex-plus for the next design. This actually acts as a multiplier and gives roughly half a knot extra speed under sail! Crossing the Irish Sea as I often do, this will probably cut about 45 minutes of the crossing time leaving me to enjoy a pleasant wait for the tidal gate to let me in to harbor with the joy of pitching and rolling at anchor as those lovely Seacats zoom their way in before me. Oh the joy of speed! Regards |
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For what ever,
I choose a Martec folding prop with streamlined tips to get that extra 1/2 knt while sailing. It proved to be better Prop than my fixed Prop in every way accept for the prop walk in backing, It became my primary Prop and the Fixed my spare. I choose a Martec Folder because of the simplicity. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz |
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