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Wilbur Hubbard March 7th 07 08:18 PM

Folding or feathering propleller, practical experience?
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:18:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
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On 6 Mar 2007 21:44:59 -0800, lid (Jonathan Ganz)
wrote:

In article ,
Charlie Morgan wrote:
I was as well. Regardless, it's not just a "frown factor" here.
The
LEO's will
"pull you over" for it.

Last time I sailed into a marina that forbids it, we had no
choice.
I
called ahead so they wouldn't have a freak out.

Just to make sure you understand what I'm saying: This is a long
narrow twisty
river with a lot of marinas. The local law enforcement considers
going up or
down the river under sail in a keelboat to be unsafe operation.
Ticket!

CWM

What happens if the engine dies and you have to sail? Do they ticket
and call SEATow?

I have no idea what would happen in a hypothetical situation. I do
know that the local police have wide discretion in what to allow or
not allow. For that matter, sailing in this particular channel would
probably make you quite a few enemies. You'd be very much in the way
of other craft trying to use the channel.


No they do not have wide discretion. Anything they do to make it stick
has to be based on law and not on their opinion.


Ever hear of someone getting a traffic ticket for "Traveling too fast
for conditions"? "Operating in an unsafe manner"?


Yes, but it can't be made to stick unless it resulted in some sort of
other infraction such as an injury to person or property such as in a
collision. It is never a stand-alone citation and, if it is, it is
easily beaten. Traveling too fast for conditions is conditional on it's
resulting in an accident or something. If no accident or incidental
infraction occurs then it cannot be proven in court one was traveling
too fast for conditions. You just cannot be guilty of hearsay. The only
way it can be said one was traveling too fast for conditions is if it
caused something else to happen. It's like the song about reckless
discharge of a firearm and the dude says "Reckless, Hell! I hit just
where I was aiming."


How about being arrested for displaying "intent" to do something?


You can be arrested for anything. But, the charge has to be proven. If
the charge is intent then you have to prove intent - a very difficult
thing to do.

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard March 7th 07 08:28 PM

Folding or feathering propleller, practical experience?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:56:12 -0500, Charlie Morgan
said:

When is visiting day at the rehab center, Neal?


Careful, Charlie. Neal's gonna sue you, acting as his own lawyer.
Didn't you
see him explaining how easy it is?


I'd like to be in court as the defendant while you were working for the
prosecution. I'd kick your wimpy, pea-brained butt all over the
courthouse. I'd do it with indisputable written statutes and statutory
definitions. The only way to lose a case like that is to have a crooked
or ignorant judge. Not that the system's not rife with those.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur Hubbard March 7th 07 08:39 PM

Folding or feathering propleller, practical experience?
 

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:56:12 -0500, Charlie Morgan
said:

When is visiting day at the rehab center, Neal?


Careful, Charlie. Neal's gonna sue you, acting as his own lawyer.
Didn't you
see him explaining how easy it is?


I don't believe in suing people. I extract satisfaction in more manly
ways. It is generally wimps and pussies who hire lawyers and sue. The
one gravitates towards the other. Misery loves company. Birds of a
feather. Lowlife scum! Your peers!

Wilbur Hubbard


Simon Neal June 18th 07 10:43 PM

Folding or feathering propleller, practical experience?
 
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:04:58 -0500, Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"Derek Lumb" wrote in message
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I have a three bladed "flexo-fold" prop. Seems fine and I have had nor
problem with reverse (not down to the prop anyway!).

www.flexofold.com

Regards



My prop is a fixed, three-bladed type. It has less drag than any folding
or feathering prop ever made. As a matter of fact, it has no drag at all
when under sail. It never needs to be cleaned of marine growth and it
never needs anti-fouling paint. It costs about a hundred dollars. It
weighs less than a pound. It can be removed and re-installed in about
two minutes. It is clearly superior in every way to any folding or
feathering propeller.

Wilbur Hubbard


Wilbur! I have the latest five blade model of this. It has anti snare
too, a must for sailing right through those pesky drift nets and pots
they insist on dumping around here. I'm told that the manufacturers are
looking at developing the vortex-plus for the next design. This actually
acts as a multiplier and gives roughly half a knot extra speed under sail!
Crossing the Irish Sea as I often do, this will probably cut about 45
minutes of the crossing time leaving me to enjoy a pleasant wait for the
tidal gate to let me in to harbor with the joy of pitching and rolling at
anchor as those lovely Seacats zoom their way in before me. Oh the joy of
speed!
Regards


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