Stop Picking On Neal!
 

When you do you are turning into what you say he is!

Instead, shower him with praise!


Diane

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!













http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!



He doesn't care. The whole Neal/Ellen/Gilly/Sockpuppet/flonker stuff is a
microcosm of the kind of people out in the world who would rather tear down
than build or contribute. These people would never do what they've done for
as long as they've done it without a pathological need to do it. Sure, there
are always going to be disagreements, over politics, religion, etc., and
most adults deal with diverse views as adults. Unfortunately, there are a
few who are not capable of acting like adults, and thus we get the attempt
to lash out, damage what can be damaged, throw a tantrum, try to cause
trouble for people. Usenet newsgroups tend to attract them, because they
have the illusion of anonimity. They can't change who they are, which makes
them easy to identify.

Also, unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do about it unless it
really crosses the line into legal harassment. This has happened a couple of
times, as a few of us know, but mostly they're paper tigers. The best course
of action, which I've learned finally, is to ignore them as best as
possible. Fortunately, for most, it's fairly easy to do this technologically
with such things as killfiles. Everyone has a different level of tolerance
for these sort of people, but making an effort to restrain oneself is
usually worth the effort.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

yawns

--
NH_/)_
www.sailirc.net

"Diane Linkletter" wrote in message
...
When you do you are turning into what you say he is!

Instead, shower him with praise!


Diane

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!













http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL


Thom,

I will honor your requests.

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!



He doesn't care.

Putting thoughts in my head?

The whole Neal/Ellen/Gilly/Sockpuppet/flonker stuff is a microcosm of the
kind of people out in the world who would rather tear down than build or
contribute. These people would never do what they've done for as long as
they've done it without a pathological need to do it.

Ever really look at all your posts, especially the personal attacks, foul
language and admission of illegal behavior?

How many years have you been here? How many posts?


Sure, there
are always going to be disagreements, over politics, religion, etc., and
most adults deal with diverse views as adults.

hahahahahahahaaa!!! This from Mr Ad Hominen himself!

Unfortunately, there are a
few who are not capable of acting like adults, and thus we get the attempt
to lash out, damage what can be damaged, throw a tantrum, try to cause
trouble for people.

So are you in the adult category?

Usenet newsgroups tend to attract them, because they
have the illusion of anonimity. They can't change who they are, which
makes them easy to identify.


The more one reads the more they realize you are talking about yourself.


Also, unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do about it unless it
really crosses the line into legal harassment.

Such as stalking Neal?


This has happened a couple of
times, as a few of us know, but mostly they're paper tigers.

And what about the small bit that isn't a paper tiger?

The best course
of action, which I've learned finally, is to ignore them as best as
possible. Fortunately, for most, it's fairly easy to do this
technologically with such things as killfiles.


But yet you still report people when you could simply killfile them!

Everyone has a different level of tolerance
for these sort of people, but making an effort to restrain oneself is
usually worth the effort.


Restraining yourself takes effort?


I've noticed a good amount of the "trouble" on this group centers around
you. People come from other groups to stir things up just because of you.
Usually when someone mentions personal attack, it's you who flings it. When
someone quits because of a member's obssesion with complaining to their
ISP - it's you. It's you who spews the most hatred here. It's you who toes
the hard dogmatic political line and woe to those who disagree. It's you who
is famous for extreme intolerance of others and yet you prance about
preaching tolerance.

In the past I walked away from here only to be talked into coming back by
several others. The last time I did it begrudgingly out of personal
friendship. Just pray to god you never meet me in person.

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Thom Stewart wrote:
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!













http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL

Rhom, I usually don't take issue with youm but this time I will. Gilly;s
socks have sometimes been the heart and soul of ASA's...he fulfills a
role here as Devil's Advocate. If one persona, in a real life name,
tried to do that, they'd be nailed to the wall. His puppets work,
though, to keep things in perspective. And they;re funny. You also
forget that much pf what his puppets speak is ironica, satirical or
tongue in cheek. He deals in innuendo. Many of us enjoy the word pay and
his endless catalog of characters that know just when and what they
should interject into the group. The few times that Gilly withdrew from
asa, the threads became dry and stale. He also does not disguise his own
identity by using his socks, We all know which characters are Gilly's
and which are socks meant to subvert. Leave him alone, please. Just
don't rad his posts if it offends you that much.

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Thom Stewart wrote:
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!
Rhom, I usually don't take issue with youm but this time I will. Gilly;s
socks have sometimes been the heart and soul of ASA's...he fulfills a role
here as Devil's Advocate. If one persona, in a real life name, tried to do
that, they'd be nailed to the wall. His puppets work, though, to keep
things in perspective. And they;re funny. You also forget that much pf
what his puppets speak is ironica, satirical or tongue in cheek. He deals
in innuendo. Many of us enjoy the word pay and his endless catalog of
characters that know just when and what they should interject into the
group. The few times that Gilly withdrew from asa, the threads became dry
and stale. He also does not disguise his own identity by using his socks,
We all know which characters are Gilly's and which are socks meant to
subvert. Leave him alone, please. Just don't rad his posts if it offends
you that much.


Thom, I'm assuming you're addressing me. I think you need to read your own
original post. If you look back, sure Gill has been a positive force, but
lately, he's not interested in anything but his own self-serving talk. Look
at what he posted about me in this very thread. Please show me where I
haven't "left him alone."

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Gill, I'm going to answer you here, and then I'm done. You have no real
interest in the answers, so there's no point in going beyond this post.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!



He doesn't care.

Putting thoughts in my head?

So, you don't care, even after Thom asked you nicely and defended you in
another part of this thread.

The whole Neal/Ellen/Gilly/Sockpuppet/flonker stuff is a microcosm of the
kind of people out in the world who would rather tear down than build or
contribute. These people would never do what they've done for as long as
they've done it without a pathological need to do it.

Ever really look at all your posts, especially the personal attacks, foul
language and admission of illegal behavior?

I'm quite aware of my posts, and over the years here, I've called people
names and used foul language. The rest is a load of crap. You are as I've
said, one of those people who have no interest in anything except tearing
people down. Your own post here proves my point.

Unfortunately, there are a
few who are not capable of acting like adults, and thus we get the
attempt to lash out, damage what can be damaged, throw a tantrum, try to
cause trouble for people.

So are you in the adult category?

Unlike and compared to you, yes.

Usenet newsgroups tend to attract them, because they
have the illusion of anonimity. They can't change who they are, which
makes them easy to identify.

The more one reads the more they realize you are talking about yourself.

pot, kettle, black.


Also, unfortunately, there's not much anyone can do about it unless it
really crosses the line into legal harassment.

Such as stalking Neal?

Now that's funny. Neal has been obsessed with me for years. He can't/won't
stop. He's tried just about everything he can think of on and off the
newsgroup to harm me. I'm not the only one who has experienced his obsessive
behavior.


This has happened a couple of
times, as a few of us know, but mostly they're paper tigers.

And what about the small bit that isn't a paper tiger?

See previous.

The best course
of action, which I've learned finally, is to ignore them as best as
possible. Fortunately, for most, it's fairly easy to do this
technologically with such things as killfiles.

But yet you still report people when you could simply killfile them!

Sorry, but you don't know anything about what I do or don't do.

I've noticed a good amount of the "trouble" on this group centers around
you. People come from other groups to stir things up just because of you.
Usually when someone mentions personal attack, it's you who flings it.
When someone quits because of a member's obssesion with complaining to
their ISP - it's you. It's you who spews the most hatred here. It's you
who toes the hard dogmatic political line and woe to those who disagree.
It's you who is famous for extreme intolerance of others and yet you
prance about preaching tolerance.

I think I'll just say too bad and you're a liar and leave it at that.

In the past I walked away from here only to be talked into coming back by
several others. The last time I did it begrudgingly out of personal
friendship. Just pray to god you never meet me in person.

I'm not in control of what you do and where you go, but it's pretty to think
so. I take the rest of this as a lame threat intended to shut me up. You're
obviously a sick guy, who is now going to what? beat me up? I think you're
pretty much nothing as a person, so it's nice to know you have a friend.
Given what you and your "friend" have called me, I think that's pretty tame
and restrained. Feel free to not let the door hit you on the way out. You
can only do so much for your friend.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"katy" wrote in message
...
Thom Stewart wrote:
Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!
Rhom, I usually don't take issue with youm but this time I will. Gilly;s
socks have sometimes been the heart and soul of ASA's...he fulfills a
role here as Devil's Advocate. If one persona, in a real life name, tried
to do that, they'd be nailed to the wall. His puppets work, though, to
keep things in perspective. And they;re funny. You also forget that much
pf what his puppets speak is ironica, satirical or tongue in cheek. He
deals in innuendo. Many of us enjoy the word pay and his endless catalog
of characters that know just when and what they should interject into the
group. The few times that Gilly withdrew from asa, the threads became dry
and stale. He also does not disguise his own identity by using his socks,
We all know which characters are Gilly's and which are socks meant to
subvert. Leave him alone, please. Just don't rad his posts if it offends
you that much.


Thom, I'm assuming you're addressing me. I think you need to read your own
original post. If you look back, sure Gill has been a positive force, but
lately, he's not interested in anything but his own self-serving talk.
Look at what he posted about me in this very thread. Please show me where
I haven't "left him alone."



Sorry, I meant Katy...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Jon,

It was Katy that was defending Gilly. Not me. He is fair game as far as
I'm concerned but I try my damniest not to acknowledge ANY "Make Believe
Characters" Getting very hard in ASA, so many "Sock-puppets" I don't
even remember Gilly's real name; Gilly is a "Puppet" at least twice
removed from reality.













http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

"katy" wrote in message
...

Thom Stewart wrote:

Gilly,

I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!

Rhom, I usually don't take issue with youm but this time I will. Gilly;s
socks have sometimes been the heart and soul of ASA's...he fulfills a
role here as Devil's Advocate. If one persona, in a real life name, tried
to do that, they'd be nailed to the wall. His puppets work, though, to
keep things in perspective. And they;re funny. You also forget that much
pf what his puppets speak is ironica, satirical or tongue in cheek. He
deals in innuendo. Many of us enjoy the word pay and his endless catalog
of characters that know just when and what they should interject into the
group. The few times that Gilly withdrew from asa, the threads became dry
and stale. He also does not disguise his own identity by using his socks,
We all know which characters are Gilly's and which are socks meant to
subvert. Leave him alone, please. Just don't rad his posts if it offends
you that much.


Thom, I'm assuming you're addressing me. I think you need to read your own
original post. If you look back, sure Gill has been a positive force, but
lately, he's not interested in anything but his own self-serving talk.
Look at what he posted about me in this very thread. Please show me where
I haven't "left him alone."




Sorry, I meant Katy...

Then it all boils down to one question: Did you or did you not turn him
in to his ISP? And I suppose your answer to that will be "I neither
admit or deny..." I admit freely I turned Neal in...and you know the
exterior reasons why I had to do that. Gilly does not hack, infest
others with malware or viruses. So he retaliated on group with
information about your past that might hurt you. Many people ahve thigs
in their pasts that they are not proud of or that they look back on ad
think "Why the heck did I do that?" Problem is, once it's done you have
to live with it forever. And things do tend to come back and haignt a
person, whether they think they've lived through them or not. Yur
alternative to all this is to either defend yourself, which you don't
have to do...I caould care less what anyone did back in the 60's...or
you can ignore it. Fighting it, though, without defending yourself i
some way, just drives the nails deeper.

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Jon,

It was Katy that was defending Gilly. Not me. He is fair game as far as
I'm concerned but I try my damniest not to acknowledge ANY "Make Believe
Characters" Getting very hard in ASA, so many "Sock-puppets" I don't
even remember Gilly's real name; Gilly is a "Puppet" at least twice
removed from reality.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL



I know Thom... it was Katytype that did me in. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Katy,

I do believe you're wrong on Gilly (Whatever his name may be) this time.
He has fallen into the habit, with his newest ALIAS, of attacking people
and expressing OT points of views. These kind of "Make Believes" are
adding to the downfall of the ASA Group!

It really doesn't make an awful lot of difference to me. I've sold the
boat but since 1996 I have developed a lot of very good "net friends,
you being one of them, but the ASA is hurting.

From the best, most active discussion group it has just become a shadow
of what it was.

As you know, I've taken steps to maintain the friendships I've
developed. The Decline does sadden me though and decline it has. I guess
it was TOO SUCCESSFUL. It drew to many distractors. As, they say; "All
good things must come to an end!"













http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WHOSAFATSONEAL

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote
It was Katy that was defending Gilly. Not me. He is fair game as far as
I'm concerned but I try my damniest not to acknowledge ANY "Make Believe
Characters" Getting very hard in ASA, so many "Sock-puppets" I don't
even remember Gilly's real name; Gilly is a "Puppet" at least twice
removed from reality.

You and Capt. JG need to get a room. Your talk about *getting very hard*
I'm sure turned him on. roflmao

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Then it all boils down to one question: Did you or did you not turn him
in to his ISP? And I suppose your answer to that will be "I neither admit
or deny..." I admit freely I turned Neal in...and you know the exterior
reasons why I had to do that. Gilly does not hack, infest others with
malware or viruses. So he retaliated on group with information about your
past that might hurt you. Many people ahve thigs in their pasts that they
are not proud of or that they look back on ad think "Why the heck did I do
that?" Problem is, once it's done you have to live with it forever. And
things do tend to come back and haignt a person, whether they think
they've lived through them or not. Yur alternative to all this is to
either defend yourself, which you don't have to do...I caould care less
what anyone did back in the 60's...or you can ignore it. Fighting it,
though, without defending yourself i some way, just drives the nails
deeper.


Yes, it all boils down to one question and one sentence in your post.

If I say I didn't, then inevitably someone will call me a liar. I've denied
similar things, such as being the one responsible for getting someone
tossed, but in every instance, the person in question called me a liar over
and over, and will probably do so forever to whomever will listen.

And, the one sentence is "So he retaliated on group with information about
your past that might hurt you." The word retaliated implies that he is 1) is
absolutely certain that I reported him, 2) he did nothing wrong, 3) it's ok
to retaliate. I certainly dispute 2 and 3. I can't say if he's certain or
not. I can say that his intention (and Neal's) was/is to "hurt" me. Gill
just threatened me physically in another post. FYI, I did nothing in the 60s
that I'm ashamed of, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to fight or defend.

Yes, for some people, I agree that they will look back and wonder why they
did something or said something. Most mature adults do that from time to
time. I don't count Gill or Neal or the others I mentioned in that category,
as I've not seen that demonstrated by them. If you happen to recall, I
stopped (mostly) using foul language and arguing with the likes of Neal
quite a while ago. I regret doing it, but finally realized that it was just
making things worse. I wonder when/if Gill will ever come to that
conclusion.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote
Gill, I'm going to answer you here, and then I'm done. You have no real interest in the answers, so there's no point
in going beyond this post.

snipped LSD overdose inspired wack job rantings of a mentally ill Capt. JG

Every time you post something, Capt. JG, what you say about other people
applies exactly to yourself. If only you could have a brain that wasn't burned
out by illegal drugs. If you hadn't damaged your brain, you'd be able to see
how really really mentally ill you are.... Everybody else sees it and feels sorry
for you. Or laughs at you like I do.... roflmao A healthy brain accepts reality.
Your brain just lives in a world full of psychotic colors and images. For you
there's no *if-then* reality.
It's one thing to be born with almost no brain function or to get one by
accident like a car wreck or an embolism. That's something I can understand. But
to take a functioning brain and then make it defective by taking illegal drugs
is so stupid. It tells me there wasn't ever much brain there to begin with.

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote
quite a while ago. I regret doing it, but finally realized that it was just making things worse. I wonder when/if Gill
will ever come to that conclusion.

Maybe you shoulda thought about that BEFORE you started netcopping him.
People just don't like snitches. But, you'll never understand that. Your brain
you burned out with LSD is not capable of it any more. Why don't you just go
take some more. Give your brain what it needs. Give it more drugs. Burn it out
all the way.

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Then it all boils down to one question: Did you or did you not turn him
in to his ISP? And I suppose your answer to that will be "I neither admit
or deny..." I admit freely I turned Neal in...and you know the exterior
reasons why I had to do that. Gilly does not hack, infest others with
malware or viruses. So he retaliated on group with information about your
past that might hurt you. Many people ahve thigs in their pasts that they
are not proud of or that they look back on ad think "Why the heck did I do
that?" Problem is, once it's done you have to live with it forever. And
things do tend to come back and haignt a person, whether they think
they've lived through them or not. Yur alternative to all this is to
either defend yourself, which you don't have to do...I caould care less
what anyone did back in the 60's...or you can ignore it. Fighting it,
though, without defending yourself i some way, just drives the nails
deeper.



Yes, it all boils down to one question and one sentence in your post.

If I say I didn't, then inevitably someone will call me a liar. I've denied
similar things, such as being the one responsible for getting someone
tossed, but in every instance, the person in question called me a liar over
and over, and will probably do so forever to whomever will listen.

And, the one sentence is "So he retaliated on group with information about
your past that might hurt you." The word retaliated implies that he is 1) is
absolutely certain that I reported him, 2) he did nothing wrong, 3) it's ok
to retaliate. I certainly dispute 2 and 3. I can't say if he's certain or
not. I can say that his intention (and Neal's) was/is to "hurt" me. Gill
just threatened me physically in another post. FYI, I did nothing in the 60s
that I'm ashamed of, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to fight or defend.

Yes, for some people, I agree that they will look back and wonder why they
did something or said something. Most mature adults do that from time to
time. I don't count Gill or Neal or the others I mentioned in that category,
as I've not seen that demonstrated by them. If you happen to recall, I
stopped (mostly) using foul language and arguing with the likes of Neal
quite a while ago. I regret doing it, but finally realized that it was just
making things worse. I wonder when/if Gill will ever come to that
conclusion.

There is a difference, though, that you're overlooking. Neal does
physical damage to people's computers. Gilly does not. WOrds are words,
I've learened, and some words should just be ignored. If what Gilly
published about you is not true, you have elgal recourse to sue him. If
it is true, then it truly is a matter of public record and he did
nothing bit point the arrow to the evidence. What other people do with
it isn't in his control. As far as retaliation goes, you retaliate when
you turn someone in because they don't fit your sescription of what
should and should not be said here. I only tirned someone in when a
physical possesion of mine was invaded and destroyed. Big difference
there. Get over it Jon. There's way too much life to live.

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Then it all boils down to one question: Did you or did you not turn him
in to his ISP? And I suppose your answer to that will be "I neither admit
or deny..." I admit freely I turned Neal in...and you know the exterior
reasons why I had to do that. Gilly does not hack, infest others with
malware or viruses. So he retaliated on group with information about your
past that might hurt you. Many people ahve thigs in their pasts that
they are not proud of or that they look back on ad think "Why the heck
did I do that?" Problem is, once it's done you have to live with it
forever. And things do tend to come back and haignt a person, whether
they think they've lived through them or not. Yur alternative to all
this is to either defend yourself, which you don't have to do...I caould
care less what anyone did back in the 60's...or you can ignore it.
Fighting it, though, without defending yourself i some way, just drives
the nails deeper.



Yes, it all boils down to one question and one sentence in your post.

If I say I didn't, then inevitably someone will call me a liar. I've
denied similar things, such as being the one responsible for getting
someone tossed, but in every instance, the person in question called me a
liar over and over, and will probably do so forever to whomever will
listen.

And, the one sentence is "So he retaliated on group with information
about your past that might hurt you." The word retaliated implies that he
is 1) is absolutely certain that I reported him, 2) he did nothing wrong,
3) it's ok to retaliate. I certainly dispute 2 and 3. I can't say if he's
certain or not. I can say that his intention (and Neal's) was/is to
"hurt" me. Gill just threatened me physically in another post. FYI, I did
nothing in the 60s that I'm ashamed of, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed
to fight or defend.

Yes, for some people, I agree that they will look back and wonder why
they did something or said something. Most mature adults do that from
time to time. I don't count Gill or Neal or the others I mentioned in
that category, as I've not seen that demonstrated by them. If you happen
to recall, I stopped (mostly) using foul language and arguing with the
likes of Neal quite a while ago. I regret doing it, but finally realized
that it was just making things worse. I wonder when/if Gill will ever
come to that conclusion.

There is a difference, though, that you're overlooking. Neal does physical
damage to people's computers. Gilly does not. WOrds are words, I've
learened, and some words should just be ignored. If what Gilly published
about you is not true, you have elgal recourse to sue him. If it is true,
then it truly is a matter of public record and he did nothing bit point
the arrow to the evidence. What other people do with it isn't in his
control. As far as retaliation goes, you retaliate when you turn someone
in because they don't fit your sescription of what should and should not
be said here. I only tirned someone in when a physical possesion of mine
was invaded and destroyed. Big difference there. Get over it Jon. There's
way too much life to live.


I'm not overlooking anything. If Gilly wants to publish things about me that
aren't true, I certainly have that option. I think it would probably be
expensive and not worth the effort, but yes, I suppose I could sue. Why are
you hung up on what he wrote or didn't write? I don't think I've said one
word about it either way. And, you're assuming that I've "turned him in" for
something that, as far as ISPs are concerned, is not something that would
cause them to do anything. My ISP certainly ignores these types of
complaints... well, they did ask me about "this Neal character" at one point
a few years ago.

Sorry, but there's nothing for me to "get over," since I haven't done
anything or even felt anything (other than mild disgust). I'm not
perpetuating this, and I'm being civil about it in the forum. Are you going
to tell me next that I should not be able to state my opinion about other
subjects... if so, please give me a list. I wouldn't want to get it wrong!

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Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Stop Bitching all of ya, gowd talk about sailing.

if your mad at someone all you got to do is take them sailing with you and
drag them
for bait off a tether lol.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote
Gill, I'm going to answer you here, and then I'm done. You have no real
interest in the answers, so there's no point in going beyond this post.

snipped LSD overdose inspired wack job rantings of a mentally ill Capt.
JG

Every time you post something, Capt. JG, what you say about other
people
applies exactly to yourself. If only you could have a brain that wasn't
burned
out by illegal drugs. If you hadn't damaged your brain, you'd be able to
see
how really really mentally ill you are.... Everybody else sees it and
feels sorry
for you. Or laughs at you like I do.... roflmao A healthy brain accepts
reality.
Your brain just lives in a world full of psychotic colors and images. For
you
there's no *if-then* reality.
It's one thing to be born with almost no brain function or to get one
by
accident like a car wreck or an embolism. That's something I can
understand. But
to take a functioning brain and then make it defective by taking illegal
drugs
is so stupid. It tells me there wasn't ever much brain there to begin
with.

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote
I'm not very comfortable with you using Art Linkletters dead daughter
name in your replies; to me. Please don't!

I'm not very comfortable with you calling me Capt. Neal all the time.
Please don't. roflmao How dumb can you be. Now your trying to control
what names people have or use to post. Hey, silly, you don't have any control
over any of it.

As far as my replies to Crazy Neal, you had better Goggle a bit and see
just how long we have been at each other. I would say its 10 years. Long
before you arrived.

I googled lots of his posts. He beat everybody here to a pulp. You too, Tom.
He made *everybody* look stupid. You too Tom! Now, that he's gone away you
think your getting some kind of payback? You make yourself look stupid just for
old times sake. Ha ha ha ha!
A famous man, I think maybe it was Sir Winston Churchill, said something that
fits you exactly, Tom. And half the people in this news group. He said, "It doesn't
take a very brave dog to bark ar the bones of a lion." If the shoe fits..... roflmao

You are hurting ASA just as badly as Neal, with imaginary beings. You
are one of the worst offenders in the group with "Make Believe" So, Bug
Off! Let the dead rest in Peace!

Should we let the brain-dead rest too? If you make me do that I won't be
able to answer your posts. lol, roflmao, lmss, lmgo

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Here is Neal in his Female Self;
http://www.terrisfp.com/maxnew/polar.html













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Neal,

Another view as he would like to be thought of;

http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies3.html

A dark lady of untold power.

He really hasn't learned to make peace with his Bald Headed Self













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"Thom Stewart" wrote
http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies3.html

A dark lady of untold power.


No, that's not me. This is me with Capt. JG there on the ground... lol
http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies/part3/002.gif

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote
http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies3.html

A dark lady of untold power.


Oh, and this one even looks a lot like me: http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies/part3/017.jpg
Kewl pictures, Tom. I like to think of myself as Eowyn in the Lord of the Rings.

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Hey Neal,
Is this how you'd like to be conceived
by ASA?

http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies/part3/006.jpg

Sorry! With your Bald Head, sunken chest, droopy ass and sagging hips, I
don't think the substitution can be made. Just thinking of it is really
something to justify (ROTFLMAO)













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"Thom Stewart" wrote
Hey Neal,
Is this how you'd like to be conceived
by ASA?

http://d21c.com/walpurgis9/ladies/part3/006.jpg

Tom, where did you get that picture of Joe's woman? Ya gotta admit it she does
look sorta like Joe's woman. And, if I had a man like Joe I think I'd have a spear
too. I wouldn't put it down till he took a long hot bath..... He hee!

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

On Feb 14, 2:15 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:
Here is Neal in his Female Self;http://www.terrisfp.com/maxnew/polar.html

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz

Hey Ol Thom,

The truth is uglier than that.

Here is the real Nellie as Ellen.

http://www.fifthavenuegazette.com/up...t-2-717778.jpg

Joe

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Joe wrote:
On Feb 14, 2:15 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:

Here is Neal in his Female Self;http://www.terrisfp.com/maxnew/polar.html

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz


Hey Ol Thom,

The truth is uglier than that.

Here is the real Nellie as Ellen.

http://www.fifthavenuegazette.com/up...t-2-717778.jpg

Joe

That's aboout as gross as it gets...

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"sailirc" wrote
Stop Bitching all of ya, gowd talk about sailing.

if your mad at someone all you got to do is take them sailing with you and drag them
for bait off a tether lol.

That's telling them! Can we put them in the chum grinder first? :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Feb 14, 2:15 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:

Here is Neal in his Female Self;http://www.terrisfp.com/maxnew/polar.html

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomJazz


Hey Ol Thom,

The truth is uglier than that.

Here is the real Nellie as Ellen.

http://www.fifthavenuegazette.com/up...t-2-717778.jpg

Joe

That's aboout as gross as it gets...


Definitely.

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Joe,

You Got It!!! Right down to the Wig for his Bald Head! Ugly is as ugly
does was never truer

Stop Picking On Neal!
 

Can't Stop Laughing Joe,

Let him photoshop that on to that Tangerine! CRIPES JOE!! Have a heart.
My dog can't figure why I'm laughing.













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