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On Feb 2, 11:34 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote: The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science The Deniers -- Part III Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post Published: Friday, February 02, 2007 December 8, 2006 You're quoting from a Canadian organization (Energy Probe Research Foundation)? One or two "scientists" say that Global warming is entirely attributable too natural causes, 5000 others say man is making a significant contribution, and which do you go with? Cheers Marty I'm just tryiong to figure how to make more money off your fears. like all the other global warming warriors. You know more about hurricanes then the most honored hurricane researcher in the Atlantic basin? Joe joe |
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On Feb 2, 12:00 pm, Walt wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: crap snipped One or two "scientists" say that Global warming is entirely attributable too natural causes, 5000 others say man is making a significant contribution, and which do you go with? The third option of course: deny that it's happening at all. Head, meet sand. //Walt Another option might be to figure out if it's caused by nature or man. Joe |
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I've parked my truck under a big tree, just in case.
Scotty "sailirc" wrote in message news:1LKwh.4579$WI6.3947@trnddc04... Here is another link on the subject. http://www.msnbc.com/id/1692224/ they claim ocean levels will rise in the next century -- NH_/)_ www.sailirc.net |
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Joe wrote:
On Feb 2, 11:34 am, Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science The Deniers -- Part III Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post Published: Friday, February 02, 2007 December 8, 2006 You're quoting from a Canadian organization (Energy Probe Research Foundation)? One or two "scientists" say that Global warming is entirely attributable too natural causes, 5000 others say man is making a significant contribution, and which do you go with? Cheers Marty I'm just tryiong to figure how to make more money off your fears. like all the other global warming warriors. You know more about hurricanes then the most honored hurricane researcher in the Atlantic basin? So, are you claiming that Dr. Landsea is denying global warming? |
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On Feb 2, 1:31 pm, Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote: On Feb 2, 11:34 am, Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: The hurricane expert who stood up to UN junk science The Deniers -- Part III Lawrence Solomon, Financial Post Published: Friday, February 02, 2007 December 8, 2006 You're quoting from a Canadian organization (Energy Probe Research Foundation)? One or two "scientists" say that Global warming is entirely attributable too natural causes, 5000 others say man is making a significant contribution, and which do you go with? Cheers Marty I'm just tryiong to figure how to make more money off your fears. like all the other global warming warriors. You know more about hurricanes then the most honored hurricane researcher in the Atlantic basin? So, are you claiming that Dr. Landsea is denying global warming?- No..I just posted his opinion that the global warming folks are using hurricanes as the "global warming poster child." It's a scare tactic, and the Hurricane expert says they are bald face liar's. You should read the posting again. I trust Dr. Landsea's opinion on Hurricanes more than some Yourapeein pack of liars. Joe Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Joe wrote:
I'm just tryiong to figure how to make more money off your fears. like all the other global warming warriors. You know more about hurricanes then the most honored hurricane researcher in the Atlantic basin? So, are you claiming that Dr. Landsea is denying global warming?- No..I just posted his opinion that the global warming folks are using hurricanes as the "global warming poster child." It's a scare tactic, and the Hurricane expert says they are bald face liar's. You should read the posting again. I trust Dr. Landsea's opinion on Hurricanes more than some Yourapeein pack of liars. Dr. Landsea agrees that Global Warming is with us for the long haul. His point has been that it is (or was, several years ago) premature to blame increased hurricanes on global warming. His conclusion is three-fold, that the science is only "suggestive" of a linkage, but not definitive. Second, that the change in hurricane intensity will be relatively small. And third, that the increased "dollar value" of the hurricane damage is caused more by increased wealth and coastal development than increased storm strength. From his 2004 paper: CONCLUSIONS. To summarize, claims of linkages between global warming and hurricane impacts are premature for three reasons. First, no connection has been established between greenhouse gas emissions and the observed behavior of hurricanes (Houghton et al. 2001; Walsh 2004). Emanuel (2005) is suggestive of such a connection, but is by no means definitive. In the future, such a connection may be established [e.g., in the case of the observations of Emanuel (2005) or the projections of Knutson and Tuleya (2004)] or made in the context of other metrics of tropical cyclone intensity and duration that remain to be closely examined. Second, the peer-reviewed literature reflects that a scientific consensus exists that any future changes in hurricane intensities will likely be small in the context of observed variability (Knutson and Tuleya 2004; Henderson-Sellers et al. 1998), while the scientific problem of tropical cyclogenesis is so far from being solved that little can be said about possible changes in frequency. And third, under the assumptions of the IPCC, expected future damages to society of its projected changes in the behavior of hurricanes are dwarfed by the influence of its own projections of growing wealth and population (Pielke et al. 2000). While future research or experience may yet overturn these conclusions, the state of the peer-reviewed knowledge today is such that there are good reasons to expect that any conclusive connection between global warming and hurricanes or their impacts will not be made in the near term. http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea...etalBAMS05.pdf |
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CONCLUSIONS. To summarize, claims of linkages between global warming and hurricane impacts are premature for three reasons. First, no connection has been established between greenhouse gas emissions and the observed behavior of hurricanes (Houghton et al. 2001; Walsh 2004). Emanuel (2005) is suggestive of such a connection, but is by no means definitive. In the future, such a connection may be established [e.g., in the case of the observations of Emanuel (2005) or the projections of Knutson and Tuleya (2004)] or made in the context of other metrics of tropical cyclone intensity and duration that remain to be closely examined. Second, the peer-reviewed literature reflects that a scientific consensus exists that any future changes in hurricane intensities will likely be small in the context of observed variability (Knutson and Tuleya 2004; Henderson-Sellers et al. 1998), while the scientific problem of tropical cyclogenesis is so far from being solved that little can be said about possible changes in frequency. And third, under the assumptions of the IPCC, expected future damages to society of its projected changes in the behavior of hurricanes are dwarfed by the influence of its own projections of growing wealth and population (Pielke et al. 2000). While future research or experience may yet overturn these conclusions, the state of the peer-reviewed knowledge today is such that there are good reasons to expect that any conclusive connection between global warming and hurricanes or their impacts will not be made in the near term. http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea...etalBAMS05.pdf If what they claim? or start to let loose to the public is true you will see a lot of strange happenings with the weather. I don't know how it will effect ocean currents and calm sailing seasons. FL just got hit again with deadly tornadoes last night and we are expecting more tonight. I lucked out and it hit north of us. The tornadoes that hit last night are uncommon to our state we normally get hit with F1 but we got hit with EF3 ,winds over 150mph. Bush is pushing to stop using fossil fuels but I don't think big business aka oil companies and automotive will jump to build cars that address fossil fuel issues fast enough. a few electric cars are on the roads now but they only have a short battery life. -- NH_/)_ www.sailirc.net |
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"sailirc" wrote in message
news:xmQwh.149$MH2.83@trnddc03... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COyb9FcpggU -- NH_/)_ www.sailirc.net The problem is really much greater variability in weather, not just warmer weather or a few more inches of rain. Of course, there are always people who deny the truth even when it's looking them in the face. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Fri, 2 Feb 2007 16:48:27 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "sailirc" wrote in message news:xmQwh.149$MH2.83@trnddc03... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COyb9FcpggU -- NH_/)_ www.sailirc.net The problem is really much greater variability in weather, not just warmer weather or a few more inches of rain. No the problem is YOU talking out of your ass and changing the weather of this group. Of course, there are always people who deny the truth even when it's looking them in the face. Great self-recognition skills you have Jonathan. Told many good lies to innocent folk's ISP's lately? |
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