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Damaged ship leaking oil off British coast
Updated Sun. Jan. 21 2007 11:21 PM ET Associated Press LONDON -- A damaged ship grounded off the English coast leaked more than 200 tons of oil, leaving a five-mile sheen on the surface of the water and threatening the nearby coastline, officials said Sunday. Salvage teams battled rough weather to try to secure the stricken ship after containers of battery acid and other hazardous materials also slipped off. But their efforts were hampered by gale force winds that struck the English coast late Saturday. The MSC Napoli was deliberately run aground in waters close to Sidmouth in southwest England after it was damaged during a storm Thursday. Helicopters rescued the 26 crew members in rough seas, 45 miles off Lizard Point on England's southwest tip. Britain's Department for Transport said more than 200 containers from the ship, which was listing at a 30-degree angle, had slid into the sea. Maritime and Coast Guard spokesman Paul Coley said two containers contained hazardous materials -- including battery acid and perfume products -- but they posed "minimal" risk. BMW motorbikes, car parts and other goods also slid off the ship. Some of the ship's approximately 3,000 tons of diesel and other fuel had leaked out through a crack in the vessel's port side, said Robin Middleton, the government's salvage adviser. "About (220 tons) of oil has been lost," Coley said. But he added that no major tanks were believed to have been breached. Middleton told a news conference that salvage workers would attempt to stabilize the ship to prevent it from capsizing, pump out the fuel and remove the containers. The 16-year-old vessel is registered in London and was last inspected by the coast guard agency in May 2005, when officials said it met safety standards. |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Damaged ship leaking oil off British coast Updated Sun. Jan. 21 2007 11:21 PM ET Associated Press LONDON -- A damaged ship grounded off the English coast leaked more than 200 tons of oil, leaving a five-mile sheen on the surface of the water and threatening the nearby coastline, officials said Sunday. Salvage teams battled rough weather to try to secure the stricken ship after containers of battery acid and other hazardous materials also slipped off. But their efforts were hampered by gale force winds that struck the English coast late Saturday. The MSC Napoli was deliberately run aground in waters close to Sidmouth in southwest England after it was damaged during a storm Thursday. Helicopters rescued the 26 crew members in rough seas, 45 miles off Lizard Point on England's southwest tip. Britain's Department for Transport said more than 200 containers from the ship, which was listing at a 30-degree angle, had slid into the sea. Maritime and Coast Guard spokesman Paul Coley said two containers contained hazardous materials -- including battery acid and perfume products -- but they posed "minimal" risk. BMW motorbikes, car parts and other goods also slid off the ship. Some of the ship's approximately 3,000 tons of diesel and other fuel had leaked out through a crack in the vessel's port side, said Robin Middleton, the government's salvage adviser. "About (220 tons) of oil has been lost," Coley said. But he added that no major tanks were believed to have been breached. Middleton told a news conference that salvage workers would attempt to stabilize the ship to prevent it from capsizing, pump out the fuel and remove the containers. The 16-year-old vessel is registered in London and was last inspected by the coast guard agency in May 2005, when officials said it met safety standards. Yes it is a sad picture on TV and there has been no information why such a ship got into difficulties although the weather was very bad. We have not been told if it was engine failure or other damage but the containers on deck are built up to the height of a house and (like many cruise ships) the design of this vessel seems to ignore windage altogether and if something puts her broadside on to a gale it is a recipe for trouble. The authorities seemed to be trying to use the hazardous nature of just two of the 2300 containers to try and keep people away from the ones breaking up on the beach but it has not worked and the local people know the law on salvage so the police have to stand by and watch stuff being hauled away while they hand out forms to be filled in and sent to the Receiver of Wrecks. Some hope! Christmas has come early! |
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On 22 Jan 2007 06:46:32 -0800, "Joe" wrote:
Damaged ship leaking oil off British coast Updated Sun. Jan. 21 2007 11:21 PM ET Associated Press LONDON -- A damaged ship grounded off the English coast leaked more than 200 tons of oil, leaving a five-mile sheen on the surface of the water and threatening the nearby coastline, officials said Sunday. Salvage teams battled rough weather to try to secure the stricken ship after containers of battery acid and other hazardous materials also slipped off. But their efforts were hampered by gale force winds that struck the English coast late Saturday. The MSC Napoli was deliberately run aground in waters close to Sidmouth in southwest England after it was damaged during a storm Thursday. Helicopters rescued the 26 crew members in rough seas, 45 miles off Lizard Point on England's southwest tip. Britain's Department for Transport said more than 200 containers from the ship, which was listing at a 30-degree angle, had slid into the sea. Maritime and Coast Guard spokesman Paul Coley said two containers contained hazardous materials -- including battery acid and perfume products -- but they posed "minimal" risk. BMW motorbikes, car parts and other goods also slid off the ship. Some of the ship's approximately 3,000 tons of diesel and other fuel had leaked out through a crack in the vessel's port side, said Robin Middleton, the government's salvage adviser. "About (220 tons) of oil has been lost," Coley said. But he added that no major tanks were believed to have been breached. Middleton told a news conference that salvage workers would attempt to stabilize the ship to prevent it from capsizing, pump out the fuel and remove the containers. The 16-year-old vessel is registered in London and was last inspected by the coast guard agency in May 2005, when officials said it met safety standards. It would have been stripped bare by now in Cornwall.. Moe he http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/mcga-ne...htm?m=1&y=2007 |
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Edgar wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Damaged ship leaking oil off British coast Updated Sun. Jan. 21 2007 11:21 PM ET Associated Press LONDON -- A damaged ship grounded off the English coast leaked more than 200 tons of oil, leaving a five-mile sheen on the surface of the water and threatening the nearby coastline, officials said Sunday. Salvage teams battled rough weather to try to secure the stricken ship after containers of battery acid and other hazardous materials also slipped off. But their efforts were hampered by gale force winds that struck the English coast late Saturday. The MSC Napoli was deliberately run aground in waters close to Sidmouth in southwest England after it was damaged during a storm Thursday. Helicopters rescued the 26 crew members in rough seas, 45 miles off Lizard Point on England's southwest tip. Britain's Department for Transport said more than 200 containers from the ship, which was listing at a 30-degree angle, had slid into the sea. Maritime and Coast Guard spokesman Paul Coley said two containers contained hazardous materials -- including battery acid and perfume products -- but they posed "minimal" risk. BMW motorbikes, car parts and other goods also slid off the ship. Some of the ship's approximately 3,000 tons of diesel and other fuel had leaked out through a crack in the vessel's port side, said Robin Middleton, the government's salvage adviser. "About (220 tons) of oil has been lost," Coley said. But he added that no major tanks were believed to have been breached. Middleton told a news conference that salvage workers would attempt to stabilize the ship to prevent it from capsizing, pump out the fuel and remove the containers. The 16-year-old vessel is registered in London and was last inspected by the coast guard agency in May 2005, when officials said it met safety standards. Yes it is a sad picture on TV and there has been no information why such a ship got into difficulties although the weather was very bad. We have not been told if it was engine failure or other damage but the containers on deck are built up to the height of a house and (like many cruise ships) the design of this vessel seems to ignore windage altogether and if something puts her broadside on to a gale it is a recipe for trouble. The authorities seemed to be trying to use the hazardous nature of just two of the 2300 containers to try and keep people away from the ones breaking up on the beach but it has not worked and the local people know the law on salvage so the police have to stand by and watch stuff being hauled away while they hand out forms to be filled in and sent to the Receiver of Wrecks. Some hope! Christmas has come early! It's just amazing....several containers of Doritos snack chips fell off a container ship in a storm 2 months ago near Virgonoa Beach and the crowds wading out to get free Doritos by the bagful was hysterical....guess that's better than letting it all sink and having sealife eat all those preservatives! |
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Edgar wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Damaged ship leaking oil off British coast Updated Sun. Jan. 21 2007 11:21 PM ET Associated Press LONDON -- A damaged ship grounded off the English coast leaked more than 200 tons of oil, leaving a five-mile sheen on the surface of the water and threatening the nearby coastline, officials said Sunday. Salvage teams battled rough weather to try to secure the stricken ship after containers of battery acid and other hazardous materials also slipped off. But their efforts were hampered by gale force winds that struck the English coast late Saturday. The MSC Napoli was deliberately run aground in waters close to Sidmouth in southwest England after it was damaged during a storm Thursday. Helicopters rescued the 26 crew members in rough seas, 45 miles off Lizard Point on England's southwest tip. Britain's Department for Transport said more than 200 containers from the ship, which was listing at a 30-degree angle, had slid into the sea. Maritime and Coast Guard spokesman Paul Coley said two containers contained hazardous materials -- including battery acid and perfume products -- but they posed "minimal" risk. BMW motorbikes, car parts and other goods also slid off the ship. Some of the ship's approximately 3,000 tons of diesel and other fuel had leaked out through a crack in the vessel's port side, said Robin Middleton, the government's salvage adviser. "About (220 tons) of oil has been lost," Coley said. But he added that no major tanks were believed to have been breached. Middleton told a news conference that salvage workers would attempt to stabilize the ship to prevent it from capsizing, pump out the fuel and remove the containers. The 16-year-old vessel is registered in London and was last inspected by the coast guard agency in May 2005, when officials said it met safety standards. Yes it is a sad picture on TV and there has been no information why such a ship got into difficulties although the weather was very bad. Seems she had a structural failure and was beached on purpose. We have not been told if it was engine failure or other damage but the containers on deck are built up to the height of a house and (like many cruise ships) the design of this vessel seems to ignore windage altogether and if something puts her broadside on to a gale it is a recipe for trouble. They are designed to be stacked over 80ft above deck Edgar. The authorities seemed to be trying to use the hazardous nature of just two of the 2300 containers to try and keep people away from the ones breaking up on the beach but it has not worked and the local people know the law on salvage so the police have to stand by and watch stuff being hauled away while they hand out forms to be filled in and sent to the Receiver of Wrecks. Some hope! Christmas has come early! As it should be, if a ship can not control and keep it's cargo then it becomes as hazard to mariners. The best way to get it cleaned up is to give it to the finders. What the problem will be... and not a good gift... is when a fiberglass boat slams into a mostly submerged container way offshore. Happens all the time. Good reason to keep an underwater camera aboard, if you strike a container, get the ID number off the container and the shipper will have to pay to fix any damage, if you don't sink and drown. Joe |
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katy wrote: It's just amazing....several containers of Doritos snack chips fell off a container ship in a storm 2 months ago near Virgonoa Beach and the crowds wading out to get free Doritos by the bagful was hysterical....guess that's better than letting it all sink and having sealife eat all those preservatives! Once Terry and I were delivering lube and fuel to a ship in the Boliver anchorage in Galveston. They had us bring 400 cases of beer. One pallet was almost ship deck level and the pallet bar shifted and 75 cases of Miller light fell from 50-60 ft and hit our barge. There was a river of beer cans 2ft wide 1/4 mile long heading offshore, you never seen so many boats appear from no-where. The whole barge stunk like old beer for a week. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote As it should be, if a ship can not control and keep it's cargo then it becomes as hazard to mariners. The best way to get it cleaned up is to give it to the finders. What the problem will be... and not a good gift... is when a fiberglass boat slams into a mostly submerged container way offshore. Happens all the time. Good reason to keep an underwater camera aboard, if you strike a container, get the ID number off the container and the shipper will have to pay to fix any damage, if you don't sink and drown. Munch a bunch..... http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...267&ran=146714 It looks like a freezer container. How come they freeze Doritos? Cheers, Ellen |
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It's a "Reefer" container, but they don't necessarily cool them down to freezing. My guess is that to maintain freshness of the Doritos you're far better off keeping them cool over long distances rather than allowing them to get hot in a closed container. "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in news:45b4ebc8$0 : "Joe" wrote As it should be, if a ship can not control and keep it's cargo then it becomes as hazard to mariners. The best way to get it cleaned up is to give it to the finders. What the problem will be... and not a good gift... is when a fiberglass boat slams into a mostly submerged container way offshore. Happens all the time. Good reason to keep an underwater camera aboard, if you strike a container, get the ID number off the container and the shipper will have to pay to fix any damage, if you don't sink and drown. Munch a bunch..... http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...267&ran=146714 It looks like a freezer container. How come they freeze Doritos? Cheers, Ellen |
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"otnmbrd" wrote It's a "Reefer" container, but they don't necessarily cool them down to freezing. My guess is that to maintain freshness of the Doritos you're far better off keeping them cool over long distances rather than allowing them to get hot in a closed container. You must be right. I left a bag out in the hot sun in the cockpit one afternoon and they tasted oily and stale..... Cheers, |
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"otnmbrd" wrote deleted it this time Oh, something to ask an expert. Look at the dent in the top of that container. Doesn't it look like the corner of another container got dropped on top of it? Maybe more than one fell off the ship and the one in the water got hit by another one dropping down on it??? And why do they float? Do they have waterproof gaskets on the doors? Cheers, Ellen |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net: "otnmbrd" wrote deleted it this time Oh, something to ask an expert. Look at the dent in the top of that container. Doesn't it look like the corner of another container got dropped on top of it? Entirely possible Maybe more than one fell off the ship and the one in the water got hit by another one dropping down on it??? Entirely possible. And why do they float? Do they have waterproof gaskets on the doors? Not a container expert but the reefers are far better sealed than the non reefers. All containers have a pretty good seal but I wouldn't call it "waterproof". As for floating...... depends on what's inside..... load of lead, sink like a rock..... load of packing peanuts in hermetically sealed bags, float forever. Cheers, Ellen |
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otnmbrd wrote: "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in reenews.net: "otnmbrd" wrote deleted it this time Oh, something to ask an expert. Look at the dent in the top of that container. Doesn't it look like the corner of another container got dropped on top of it? Entirely possible Maybe more than one fell off the ship and the one in the water got hit by another one dropping down on it??? Entirely possible. And why do they float? Do they have waterproof gaskets on the doors? Not a container expert but the reefers are far better sealed than the non reefers. All containers have a pretty good seal but I wouldn't call it "waterproof". As for floating...... depends on what's inside..... load of lead, sink like a rock..... load of packing peanuts in hermetically sealed bags, float forever. reefers also have foot thick foam walls, great floation. Joe Cheers, Ellen |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "otnmbrd" wrote deleted it this time Oh, something to ask an expert. Look at the dent in the top of that container. Doesn't it look like the corner of another container got dropped on top of it? Maybe more than one fell off the ship and the one in the water got hit by another one dropping down on it??? And why do they float? Do they have waterproof gaskets on the doors? Cheers, Ellen I do not claim first-hand knowledge but have heard that the test consists of shutting someone in the empty container and if he cannot see daylight anywhere the container is judged OK for use. |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
.... Not a container expert but the reefers are far better sealed than the non reefers. All containers have a pretty good seal but I wouldn't call it "waterproof". As for floating...... depends on what's inside..... load of lead, sink like a rock..... load of packing peanuts in hermetically sealed bags, float forever. reefers also have foot thick foam walls, great floation. Joe Do the math, Joe. a foot thick foam lining is not going to float a flooded container. Do the math? How can I resist??? Lets see: 40 feet by 8 by 8.5, lets call that 40x(7+7+7.5+7.5) + 2x(6+6.5) cubic feet of foam or 1160+78 = 1238 at 62.5 lbs/cu feet that's about 77,000 pounds of water displaced. The rating (maximum gross weight) of a 40 footer is 67,200 pounds, so it would appear that a foot of foam all around would provide sufficient flotation. Good instincts there, Bill. |
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Charlie Morgan wrote: On 22 Jan 2007 11:43:42 -0800, "Joe" wrote: otnmbrd wrote: "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in reenews.net: "otnmbrd" wrote deleted it this time Oh, something to ask an expert. Look at the dent in the top of that container. Doesn't it look like the corner of another container got dropped on top of it? Entirely possible Maybe more than one fell off the ship and the one in the water got hit by another one dropping down on it??? Entirely possible. And why do they float? Do they have waterproof gaskets on the doors? Not a container expert but the reefers are far better sealed than the non reefers. All containers have a pretty good seal but I wouldn't call it "waterproof". As for floating...... depends on what's inside..... load of lead, sink like a rock..... load of packing peanuts in hermetically sealed bags, float forever. reefers also have foot thick foam walls, great floation. Joe Do the math, Joe. a foot thick foam lining is not going to float a flooded container. I said it provided great flotation. A 20' box has a volume of just over 1341 cubic feet, and a 40' box a volume of 2719 cubic feet. The density of sea water really depends on a number of variables, including the temperature, the amount of salt and whatever other foreign items may be present, and the depth, thus the pressure, but basically at the surface, on average just over 64.1 lbs per cubic foot. The forces required to push the box under the water, or to sink it, must therefore exceed the volume of water to be displaced. A 20' box is allowed a maximum gross weight of 63,800 pounds and a 40' box a maximum of 67056 lbs. It therefore seems that if either size of container is watertight and not overloaded then it will float. Foam provides great flotation, i'd guess most container lost far offshore that make it to land are reefers. Anyhow BB, your claim to be a Harvard Man... if the seal was leaking on the small 20 ft container... and it was taking on 3 gallons of seawater per hour, how many days will it take to sink? Joe CWM |
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it's not that thick.
Scotty "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... reefers also have foot thick foam walls, great floation. Joe |
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"Scotty" wrote it's not that thick. Be careful Scotty. I've seen some second-hand posts from Capt. JG. You shouldn't talk about thickness around his kind.... :-))))))))))))))) Cheers, Ellen |
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"Edgar" wrote i Cheers, Ellen I do not claim first-hand knowledge but have heard that the test consists of shutting someone in the empty container and if he cannot see daylight anywhere the container is judged OK for use. That's what the repair shops do to look for holes to patch. Scotty |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in You must be right. I left a bag out in the hot sun in the cockpit one afternoon and they tasted oily and stale..... you eat Doritos? I wouldn't have thunk it after seeing your pics. SCOTTY |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote It looks like a freezer container. How come they freeze Doritos? So they don't melt. SBV |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.ne t... "Scotty" wrote it's not that thick. Be careful Scotty. I've seen some second-hand posts from Capt. JG. You shouldn't talk about thickness around his kind.... :-))))))))))))))) I'm starting to worry about 'ol Gilly, too. SV |
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"Scotty" wrote I'm starting to worry about 'ol Gilly, too. Yah! I never thought he was a Negro. But a gay Negro? Yuck! Cheers, Ellen |
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"Scotty" wrote in message
. .. "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.ne t... "Scotty" wrote it's not that thick. Be careful Scotty. I've seen some second-hand posts from Capt. JG. You shouldn't talk about thickness around his kind.... :-))))))))))))))) I'm starting to worry about 'ol Gilly, too. SV Neal sounds like he's getting desperate. Don't bend over in his presence ... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.ne t... "Scotty" wrote I'm starting to worry about 'ol Gilly, too. Yah! I never thought he was a Negro. But a gay Negro? Yuck! Do we hang him twice? |
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Joe wrote:
There was a river of beer cans 2ft wide 1/4 mile long heading offshore, you never seen so many boats appear from no-where. The whole barge stunk like old beer for a week. For Miller Light! I wouldn't drink that crap with your lips. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: There was a river of beer cans 2ft wide 1/4 mile long heading offshore, you never seen so many boats appear from no-where. The whole barge stunk like old beer for a week. For Miller Light! I wouldn't drink that crap with your lips. uh oh, beer snob thread, gun threads...must be Winter. Scotty |
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On Jan 23, 5:22 pm, "Scotty" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in ... Joe wrote: There was a river of beer cans 2ft wide 1/4 mile long heading offshore, you never seen so many boats appear from no-where. The whole barge stunk like old beer for a week. For Miller Light! I wouldn't drink that crap with yourlips. uh oh, beer snob thread, gun threads...must be Winter. I dont drink that crap either, I'd rather shoot the full can with my Remington .22 using CB rounds. CB rounds are great in urban areas were you do not need hassles, the are very quiet, but great for plinking and taking rats out under 100 ft. Bad points are they do not have enough power to cycle a semi auto (jams). I can hit the Miller i at 75 ft, or in one ear and out the other on rats. Joe Scotty |
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Joe wrote:
uh oh, beer snob thread, gun threads...must be Winter. I dont drink that crap either, I'd rather shoot the full can with my Remington .22 using CB rounds. CB rounds are great in urban areas were you do not need hassles, the are very quiet, but great for plinking and taking rats out under 100 ft. Bad points are they do not have enough power to cycle a semi auto (jams). I can hit the Miller i at 75 ft, or in one ear and out the other on rats. Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left. Cheers Marty |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left. Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? Scotty |
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On Jan 24, 8:29 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left.Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? Not sure, we plink with the BB pistols all the time when we sit on the dock sipping brews. Floating beer bottles are great practice targets and provide the little fisheys a place to hide. Joe Scotty |
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Scotty wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left. Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? If you were at a club, unless it had a license to serve liquor, it would be illegal. Not because of the shooting, just that consumption of alcohol in a public place is generally illegal. On your own property, you'd be okay unless you were quite squiffed, in which case you could be charged with unsafe handling of a firearm, or worse something like criminal negligence or maybe possession of weapon dangerous to the public peace. Makes sense to me, being hammered and messing with guns seems pretty stupid to me. Cheers Marty |
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Joe wrote:
On Jan 24, 8:29 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left.Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? Not sure, we plink with the BB pistols all the time when we sit on the dock sipping brews. Floating beer bottles are great practice targets and provide the little fisheys a place to hide. We shoot cans with pellet rifles and pistols, unfortunatly pellets rarely break glass bottles. I've got a Crossman BB pistol around somewhere, I should go dig it out, holds about a hundred BBs, shoot as fast as you can squeeze the trigger, looks like a luger. We used to play "find the bottle in the box" back in college, you put on or two bottles in beer box and the other guy gets six shots to "find" it. Cheers Marty |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: On Jan 24, 8:29 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left.Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? Not sure, we plink with the BB pistols all the time when we sit on the dock sipping brews. Floating beer bottles are great practice targets and provide the little fisheys a place to hide. We shoot cans with pellet rifles and pistols, unfortunatly pellets rarely break glass bottles. I've got a Crossman BB pistol around somewhere, I should go dig it out, holds about a hundred BBs, shoot as fast as you can squeeze the trigger, looks like a luger. We used to play "find the bottle in the box" back in college, you put on or two bottles in beer box and the other guy gets six shots to "find" it. Is that a required course in Canada, eh? Scotty |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: Wow Scotty, see that, _A_Beer_Thread and a _Gun_Thread_ at the _same_ time! Hoo weeee! Hey Joe, ever blast a Miller with a 12 ga. #4 shot at twenty feet? Not much can left. Is it illegal to target shoot while drinking in Can. ? Texas? Anywhere? If you were at a club, unless it had a license to serve liquor, it would be illegal. Not because of the shooting, just that consumption of alcohol in a public place is generally illegal. On your own property, you'd be okay unless you were quite squiffed, in which case you could be charged with unsafe handling of a firearm, or worse something like criminal negligence or maybe possession of weapon dangerous to the public peace. Makes sense to me, being hammered and messing with guns seems pretty stupid to me. That's how a lot of 'Russian Roulette' games got started, I bet. SV |
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Scotty wrote:
BBs, shoot as fast as you can squeeze the trigger, looks like a luger. We used to play "find the bottle in the box" back in college, you put on or two bottles in beer box and the other guy gets six shots to "find" it. Is that a required course in Canada, eh? Oh absolutely, along other gems like "determining a mooses age and sex from the aroma and texture of its' droppings, or "Proper preparation of beavers for dining" ;-o Cheers Marty |
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