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jlrogers±³© December 30th 06 10:19 AM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

The teenager, from land-locked Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, set off from
Gibraltar on the 3,500-mile voyage to the Caribbean on November 18. He hopes
to reach his destination off the island of Antigua, and break the world
record for the youngest unaided sailor across the ocean, on January 2.

--
jlrogers±³©



Scout December 30th 06 10:30 AM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
Technically speaking, is it still sailing solo with dad sailing 2 miles
behind him?
It's a great thing for a kid to do, and I'd do the same if it were my kid,
but it seems to detract from other teenagers who have actually done it
alone.
Scout

"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
om...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

The teenager, from land-locked Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, set off from
Gibraltar on the 3,500-mile voyage to the Caribbean on November 18. He
hopes to reach his destination off the island of Antigua, and break the
world record for the youngest unaided sailor across the ocean, on January
2.

--
jlrogers±³©




jlrogers±³© December 30th 06 11:08 AM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Technically speaking, is it still sailing solo with dad sailing 2 miles
behind him?
It's a great thing for a kid to do, and I'd do the same if it were my kid,
but it seems to detract from other teenagers who have actually done it
alone.
Scout



True, at least psychologically it's not the same as being alone. And others
just as young have done it before. You can't expect reporters to know the
history or do the research. They never do on anything.





jlrogers±³©



Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 03:50 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"jlrogers±³©" wrote
True, at least psychologically it's not the same as being alone. And others just as young have done it before. You
can't expect reporters to know the history or do the research. They never do on anything.


Reporters are so stupid these days. Can you believe they write a story and don't
even tell what brand of boat it is? 28-foot is about all they say about it. Duh! They
went to college and got a degree to be so ignorant about what sailors are interested
in?

Cheers,
Ellen



Goofball_star_dot_etal December 30th 06 04:07 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:50:28 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


"jlrogers±³©" wrote
True, at least psychologically it's not the same as being alone. And others just as young have done it before. You
can't expect reporters to know the history or do the research. They never do on anything.


Reporters are so stupid these days. Can you believe they write a story and don't
even tell what brand of boat it is? 28-foot is about all they say about it. Duh! They
went to college and got a degree to be so ignorant about what sailors are interested
in?

Cheers,
Ellen

http://www.tide28.com/

Cheers, Precious.

Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 04:21 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote:
http://www.tide28.com/



Oh my GAWD! Leave it to the Brits to figure out how to make a really ugly Macgregor 26!
Maybe I shoulda gave the reporter more credit. He didn't mention it because he didn't want
people barfing all over their computers. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



Goofball_star_dot_etal December 30th 06 04:28 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:21:30 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote:
http://www.tide28.com/



Oh my GAWD! Leave it to the Brits to figure out how to make a really ugly Macgregor 26!
Maybe I shoulda gave the reporter more credit. He didn't mention it because he didn't want
people barfing all over their computers. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen


It's a Big Mac. Nice keel though. Obviously a "stunt" to advertise
dad's design.


Goofball_star_dot_etal December 30th 06 04:33 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

Forgot the link:
http://www.sailmike.com/YACHTS.htm


Scout December 30th 06 04:44 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:21:30 -0500, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote:
http://www.tide28.com/



Oh my GAWD! Leave it to the Brits to figure out how to make a really
ugly Macgregor 26!
Maybe I shoulda gave the reporter more credit. He didn't mention it
because he didn't want
people barfing all over their computers. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen


It's a Big Mac. Nice keel though. Obviously a "stunt" to advertise
dad's design.


ah, confirming that my instincts are on target. I smelled bull**** and now I
see I was right.
I posted a comment to the newspaper and they have not published it. I can
only assume they are only interested in posts that support their point of
view. Shameless.
Looks like dad's design is a safe boat for a solo crossing only if done in a
convoy.
It's all well and good, except that they are hoping to top someone's genuine
and honorable record.
Scout



Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 04:47 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote
Forgot the link:
http://www.sailmike.com/YACHTS.htm



"The Tide 28s being used for the record attempt have been modified and equipped
to bring them up to Ocean standards"
Yup, just a stunt for advertising. Fool people into thinking they're buying a seaworthy
boat. The MacGregor model exactly... Like they say, there's a sucker born every minute...

Cheers,
Ellen



JaxAsby December 30th 06 08:47 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo acrossthe Atlantic
 
jlrogers±³© wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

The teenager, from land-locked Potters Bar, Hertfordshire, set off from
Gibraltar on the 3,500-mile voyage to the Caribbean on November 18. He hopes
to reach his destination off the island of Antigua, and break the world
record for the youngest unaided sailor across the ocean, on January 2.


Such feats do not always end well:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N18/pilot.18w.html

Fortunately, not only am I an expertly trained sailor, pilot and
daredevil, I am also a member of Mensa. I attend meetings in my black
speedos and the women just go crazy.

Jax

Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 08:52 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"JaxAsby" wrote in
Such feats do not always end well: http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N18/pilot.18w.html



What a shame. There should be a law about stupid people having children...

Cheers,
Ellen



Thom Stewart December 30th 06 09:52 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo acrosst...
 
Nellen,

You should know the old saying but I'll post it, just for your
enlightment.
" If the Lord didn't like Stupid people He wouldn'd have made so many!"

I'd like to add to that! He sure must Love You, with your Warped Mind!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WISHESFORALLASA


Capt.American January 2nd 07 03:24 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

Scout wrote:

It's all well and good, except that they are hoping to top someone's genuine
and honorable record.
Scout


Mr. Scout;

Days of real sailors capable of self reliance are all but long gone.

Not only will Daddy be tagging along, they will have a dozen GPS's,
weather faxes, shore support, telephones, internet, automatic pumps,
radar, auto pilot, epirbs, medical monitoring, and so on.

Enough to make Captain Joshua Slocum vomit, and give Robin L. Graham
the screeming ****s.

A new class of record keeping is in order. With support, and without.

The whole stunt is sickening.

Capt. American


Ellen MacArthur January 2nd 07 04:22 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"Capt.American" wrote
A new class of record keeping is in order. With support, and without.

The whole stunt is sickening.


Did you notice how it says *to sail solo across the Atlantic*?
Well I just looked up solo in the dictionary and it said alone and without a companion.
Having another boat and your Daddy tagging along doesn't seem alone and without
a companion to me. I think the headline's cheesy. But, that's what passes for journalism
these days.

Cheers,
Ellen



scbafreak via BoatKB.com January 2nd 07 05:00 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"The Tide 28s being used for the record attempt have been modified and equipped
to bring them up to Ocean standards"


So according to the manufacture the "Boat" is not actually designed to sail
in the Ocean. A boat not designed for use in the water.........I'm not
nearly as experienced in sailing and boats as many here so please explain to
me how a boat works that is not originally designed to be put in the water.

--
Message posted via http://www.boatkb.com


JR January 2nd 07 11:25 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
It doesn't say much for the quality of the rigging if a halyard chaffed thru
in 2 weeks.
Regards,
JR

"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message
news:6bb09a9af379c@uwe...
"The Tide 28s being used for the record attempt have been modified
and equipped
to bring them up to Ocean standards"


So according to the manufacture the "Boat" is not actually designed to
sail
in the Ocean. A boat not designed for use in the water.........I'm not
nearly as experienced in sailing and boats as many here so please explain
to
me how a boat works that is not originally designed to be put in the
water.

--
Message posted via http://www.boatkb.com




Ellen MacArthur January 2nd 07 11:30 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 

"JR" wrote
It doesn't say much for the quality of the rigging if a halyard chaffed thru in 2 weeks.


I thought it said cap shroud when I read it. That's standing rigging. Halyards are
running rigging. But it's worse having the standing rigging so flimsy it breaks that soon.

Cheers,
Ellen



Scout January 3rd 07 01:36 AM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"Capt.American" wrote in message
oups.com...

Scout wrote:

It's all well and good, except that they are hoping to top someone's
genuine
and honorable record.
Scout


Mr. Scout;

Days of real sailors capable of self reliance are all but long gone.

Not only will Daddy be tagging along, they will have a dozen GPS's,
weather faxes, shore support, telephones, internet, automatic pumps,
radar, auto pilot, epirbs, medical monitoring, and so on.

Enough to make Captain Joshua Slocum vomit, and give Robin L. Graham
the screeming ****s.

A new class of record keeping is in order. With support, and without.

The whole stunt is sickening.

Capt. American


Not only is the stunt a disgusting attempt to mar a genuine record, the
Daily News is a disgraceful rag for publishing only those views that agree
with them. I wouldn't wipe my ass with their newspaper.
Scout



[email protected] January 3rd 07 03:43 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
Scout wrote:
.... the
Daily News is a disgraceful rag for publishing only those views that agree
with them. I wouldn't wipe my ass with their newspaper.


Do you often get requests for that?

-IE-


Scout January 3rd 07 10:49 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
.... the
Daily News is a disgraceful rag for publishing only those views that
agree
with them. I wouldn't wipe my ass with their newspaper.


What he means, of course, is that the views they publish differ from his
own. There is a plethora of publications he can read to validate his own
views. The Times comes to mind.


Why is that Dave, does the Times publish more than one view on a given
topic?
I'm not looking to have my view validated, I just have to wonder how many
others agree with me but will never be heard via that rag.
Scout



Scout January 3rd 07 10:49 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
wrote in message
ps.com...
Scout wrote:
.... the
Daily News is a disgraceful rag for publishing only those views that
agree
with them. I wouldn't wipe my ass with their newspaper.


Do you often get requests for that?


You've never wiped your ass with a newspaper?
Scout



[email protected] January 3rd 07 11:09 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
Scout wrote:
You've never wiped your ass with a newspaper?


On rare occasions with incorrect or misleading tech manuals, yes.

Newspaper, no.

-signed- Injun Ear (formerly known as Eagle Eye)


Scout January 3rd 07 11:56 PM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo across the Atlantic
 
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:49:02 -0500, "Scout" said:

What he means, of course, is that the views they publish differ from his
own. There is a plethora of publications he can read to validate his own
views. The Times comes to mind.


Why is that Dave, does the Times publish more than one view on a given
topic?


The Times, like virtually every paper, has a point of view. It has one
more
in line with yours.

I will give the Times credit for appointing a "public editor" in an effort
to restore its lost credibility. His job is to evaluate how well the Times
is doing on truth in publishing, and his columns are recommended reading.

But for a variety of views, read a variety of papers.


That's true, just because the piece reads "Readers' Comments" is no reason
for me to believe it in any way reflects the comments of readers who see the
scam for what it is.



Jeff January 4th 07 12:14 AM

14-year-old set to become youngest person to sail solo acrossthe Atlantic
 
Dave wrote:
On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:49:02 -0500, "Scout" said:

What he means, of course, is that the views they publish differ from his
own. There is a plethora of publications he can read to validate his own
views. The Times comes to mind.

Why is that Dave, does the Times publish more than one view on a given
topic?


The Times, like virtually every paper, has a point of view. It has one more
in line with yours.

I will give the Times credit for appointing a "public editor" in an effort
to restore its lost credibility. His job is to evaluate how well the Times
is doing on truth in publishing, and his columns are recommended reading.

But for a variety of views, read a variety of papers.

You're absolutely correct. That's why I read Mallard Fillmore every
day - so that I can understand the Republican point of view.


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