OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

A friend said I should use Firefox because it was safer against viruses. So I downloaded it and I
installed it. Boy was that ever a big mistake! It's slow. It's buggy. It doesn't do half the things Internet
Explored does. It won't open anything. Animation doesn't work. It keeps putting everything downloaded
right there on the desktop. But the very worst is it hangs up and crashes the computer about six times a
day. So I got fed up and uninstalled it.
Second mistake. Firefox had took over as the default browser. When it got uninstalled it forgot to put
things back the way they used to be. Hyperlinks in Outlook Express stopped working. Error boxes with
files not found popped up on every start up. It took me most of a day Googling and fixing. I had to hand
edit about twenty file associations. That's what got the hyperlinks working again. Error boxes were mostly
because the registry was screwed up. I had to edit it. It made me type my password in each account in
Outlook Express for mail and news every time I clicked send and receive. A registry edit fixed that. I'm
becoming an expert. Google is really a life saver. So far there's no problem it didn't have an answer for.
Take my advice stick with Internet Explorer. But don't use the new one. IE 6 is better, It lets Hotmail
work like POP mail in Outlook Express it's even got all the different folders right there. Internet Explorer
7 does something that makes Hotmail refuse to work in Outlook Express. If you want tabs install MSN live
tool bar in IE 6. That way everything works again. So, after giving Firefox the boot and IE 7 the boot life
is good again.

Cheers,
Ellen

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

I've been using Firefox on three computers for over a year and have
had few problems. I do keep IE around for a few sites that where
sloppy coding (on the sites) causes problems, but Amazon is the only
major where I have a problem on one machine. The only component of
Firefox that I've suspected of crashing is the PDF reader, but the
standalone PDF reader also crashes sometimes, so its hard to tell.

I also use Thunderbird as a newsreader, but Outlook for mail (best
spam filter going).


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
A friend said I should use Firefox because it was safer against viruses. So I downloaded it and I
installed it. Boy was that ever a big mistake! It's slow. It's buggy. It doesn't do half the things Internet
Explored does. It won't open anything. Animation doesn't work. It keeps putting everything downloaded
right there on the desktop. But the very worst is it hangs up and crashes the computer about six times a
day. So I got fed up and uninstalled it.
Second mistake. Firefox had took over as the default browser. When it got uninstalled it forgot to put
things back the way they used to be. Hyperlinks in Outlook Express stopped working. Error boxes with
files not found popped up on every start up. It took me most of a day Googling and fixing. I had to hand
edit about twenty file associations. That's what got the hyperlinks working again. Error boxes were mostly
because the registry was screwed up. I had to edit it. It made me type my password in each account in
Outlook Express for mail and news every time I clicked send and receive. A registry edit fixed that. I'm
becoming an expert. Google is really a life saver. So far there's no problem it didn't have an answer for.
Take my advice stick with Internet Explorer. But don't use the new one. IE 6 is better, It lets Hotmail
work like POP mail in Outlook Express it's even got all the different folders right there. Internet Explorer
7 does something that makes Hotmail refuse to work in Outlook Express. If you want tabs install MSN live
tool bar in IE 6. That way everything works again. So, after giving Firefox the boot and IE 7 the boot life
is good again.

Cheers,
Ellen

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

Jeff wrote:

Ellen MacArthur wrote:

A friend said I should use Firefox because it was safer against
viruses. So I downloaded it and I
installed it. Boy was that ever a big mistake!


I've been using Firefox on three computers for over a year and have had
few problems.

So have many others. But some people are too inept to use anything
other than M$ spoonfed technology.

//Walt

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
I've been using Firefox on three computers for over a year and have had
few problems. I do keep IE around for a few sites that where sloppy
coding (on the sites) causes problems, but Amazon is the only major where
I have a problem on one machine. The only component of Firefox that I've
suspected of crashing is the PDF reader, but the standalone PDF reader
also crashes sometimes, so its hard to tell.

I also use Thunderbird as a newsreader, but Outlook for mail (best spam
filter going).


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
A friend said I should use Firefox because it was safer against
viruses. So I downloaded it and I
installed it. Boy was that ever a big mistake! It's slow. It's buggy. It
doesn't do half the things Internet
Explored does. It won't open anything. Animation doesn't work. It keeps
putting everything downloaded
right there on the desktop. But the very worst is it hangs up and crashes
the computer about six times a
day. So I got fed up and uninstalled it.
Second mistake. Firefox had took over as the default browser. When
it got uninstalled it forgot to put
things back the way they used to be. Hyperlinks in Outlook Express
stopped working. Error boxes with
files not found popped up on every start up. It took me most of a day
Googling and fixing. I had to hand
edit about twenty file associations. That's what got the hyperlinks
working again. Error boxes were mostly
because the registry was screwed up. I had to edit it. It made me type my
password in each account in
Outlook Express for mail and news every time I clicked send and receive.
A registry edit fixed that. I'm
becoming an expert. Google is really a life saver. So far there's no
problem it didn't have an answer for.
Take my advice stick with Internet Explorer. But don't use the new
one. IE 6 is better, It lets Hotmail
work like POP mail in Outlook Express it's even got all the different
folders right there. Internet Explorer
7 does something that makes Hotmail refuse to work in Outlook Express. If
you want tabs install MSN live
tool bar in IE 6. That way everything works again. So, after giving
Firefox the boot and IE 7 the boot life
is good again.

Cheers,
Ellen


Well, Neal isn't too bright. What can you expect...


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..

I've been using Firefox on three computers for over a year and have had
few problems. I do keep IE around for a few sites that where sloppy
coding (on the sites) causes problems, but Amazon is the only major where
I have a problem on one machine. The only component of Firefox that I've
suspected of crashing is the PDF reader, but the standalone PDF reader
also crashes sometimes, so its hard to tell.

I also use Thunderbird as a newsreader, but Outlook for mail (best spam
filter going).


Ellen MacArthur wrote:

A friend said I should use Firefox because it was safer against
viruses. So I downloaded it and I
installed it. Boy was that ever a big mistake! It's slow. It's buggy. It
doesn't do half the things Internet
Explored does. It won't open anything. Animation doesn't work. It keeps
putting everything downloaded
right there on the desktop. But the very worst is it hangs up and crashes
the computer about six times a
day. So I got fed up and uninstalled it.
Second mistake. Firefox had took over as the default browser. When
it got uninstalled it forgot to put
things back the way they used to be. Hyperlinks in Outlook Express
stopped working. Error boxes with
files not found popped up on every start up. It took me most of a day
Googling and fixing. I had to hand
edit about twenty file associations. That's what got the hyperlinks
working again. Error boxes were mostly
because the registry was screwed up. I had to edit it. It made me type my
password in each account in
Outlook Express for mail and news every time I clicked send and receive.
A registry edit fixed that. I'm
becoming an expert. Google is really a life saver. So far there's no
problem it didn't have an answer for.
Take my advice stick with Internet Explorer. But don't use the new
one. IE 6 is better, It lets Hotmail
work like POP mail in Outlook Express it's even got all the different
folders right there. Internet Explorer
7 does something that makes Hotmail refuse to work in Outlook Express. If
you want tabs install MSN live
tool bar in IE 6. That way everything works again. So, after giving
Firefox the boot and IE 7 the boot life
is good again.

Cheers,
Ellen



Well, Neal isn't too bright. What can you expect...


I suppose the loss of being able to use little happy faces must have
been too devastating...

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Jeff wrote:

I've been using Firefox . . . and have had
few problems. * * * The only component
. . . I've suspected of crashing is the PDF reader,
but the standalone PDF reader also crashes
sometimes, so its hard to tell.

If so, why not just program Firefox to use a different PDF reader
(e.g., "Foxit")?

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

OzOne wrote:

On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:35:24 -0500, Jeff scribbled
thusly:


Firefox works fine for days - its that every now and then I find the
standalone pdf reader hanging when I shut down. This seems to share
code with the loadable version so it makes me wonder ... but I've only
noticed this a few times in the last year.

But maybe I'll try Foxit


Me too...that's my one and only complain with F/F.
Other than that one problem, it's smooth, fast and untra reliable.
M/S is just a user of space on my HDD...and soon to disappear.


I keep IE around because I write web based applications and need to
check them against different browsers. I'm pretty confident running it
against my own code, but I would *never* visit an unknown website with
IE with it's default security options. (or should I say non-security
options) I know what kind of malicious code I could put into a webpage
to hose an unwitting IE user's PC. Not that I would, I just know what's
possible.

//Walt

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On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 17:57:34 -0500, Charlie Morgan wrote:


With the price of hard drive space hovering close to zero, there is really no
practical reason to remove IE, even if you might need it only once in 3 years.
Specifically, MS often makes it difficult to navigate and obtain patches and so
forth unless you are using their favorite browser. They can't legally make it
impossible, but they sure can make it less enjoyable.

It seems to me, that is a pretty good reason to remove all of Microsoft. ;-)

http://distrowatch.com/

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Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:20:38 +1100, OzOne wrote:

M/S is just a user of space on my HDD...and soon to disappear.

With the price of hard drive space hovering close to zero, there is really no
practical reason to remove IE, even if you might need it only once in 3 years.
Specifically, MS often makes it difficult to navigate and obtain patches and so
forth unless you are using their favorite browser. They can't legally make it
impossible, but they sure can make it less enjoyable.

Also, good luck removing much of the code without negatively impacting
the OS. You can delete some icons and shortcuts, but to free up a
significantl amount of drive space you'd need to delete some .dll files
that are used for other purposes.

//Walt

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I'm convinced that if you want to avoid computer problems you should
just leave a computer as it was shipped from the manufacture. Never
install new programs, never download anything, just leave the damn
thing alone. If you have problems just run the recovery discs that you
received with the thing and turn it back into new condition. Then heed
the above advice.

OT / Firefox what a buggy mess.
 

"Ringmaster" wrote
I'm convinced that if you want to avoid computer problems you should
just leave a computer as it was shipped from the manufacture. Never
install new programs, never download anything, just leave the damn
thing alone. If you have problems just run the recovery discs that you
received with the thing and turn it back into new condition. Then heed
the above advice.

I agree about a thousand percent. When I put the new hard drive in my HP Pavillion last week
I used the recovery CDs to format it and put it back to when it was new. It booted up in less than
fifteen seconds and shut down in about five seconds. Now, since I put Service Pack II and about
60 hotfixes and critical patches from Microsoft back it's getting back to a snail's pace.
I really do think when you get all those patches and then get an anti virus program and a spyware
program and an adaware program it makes your hard drive work all the time. It wears it slap out.
But, worse it makes it so slow that it aggravates you. And microsoft and Moxilla are at war. Don't
put any Firefox stuff on because it's written to sabotage IE and vice versa.
I got rid of the anti virus and the spyware and the adware and firefox and its better but not as
good as it was when it was fresh from the recovery disks. Pretty soon, I'm gonna end up taking your
advice.
I'll just save all pictures and data to CDs and do the recovery disk trick again. Then I won't put any
of the microsoft updates and security patches back on. If I get a virus, I'll just do the recovery disk thing
again.
I wish they'd make a laptop with two hard drives. A big one for all the pictures, songs, movies
and other data and all the add on programs to be saved there and a small one for Windows or
some other operating system. That way when it got all virused up and corrupted and bogged down
all you'd have to do is reinstall the operating system. One disk could be firewalled from the other
so it would stay safe.

Cheers,
Ellen

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"Ringmaster" wrote in news:1165618072.908817.275410@
73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com:

I'm convinced that if you want to avoid computer problems you should
just leave a computer as it was shipped from the manufacture. Never
install new programs, never download anything, just leave the damn
thing alone. If you have problems just run the recovery discs that you
received with the thing and turn it back into new condition. Then heed
the above advice.

A better way to avoid computer problems is not to use a computer;-)

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'm convinced that if you want to avoid computer problems you should
just leave a computer as it was shipped from the manufacture. Never
install new programs, never download anything, just leave the damn
thing alone. If you have problems just run the recovery discs that you
received with the thing and turn it back into new condition. Then heed
the above advice.



I hope that includes never taking it out of the box.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Ringmaster" wrote
I'm convinced that if you want to avoid computer problems you should
just leave a computer as it was shipped from the manufacture. Never
install new programs, never download anything, just leave the damn
thing alone. If you have problems just run the recovery discs that you
received with the thing and turn it back into new condition. Then heed
the above advice.

I agree about a thousand percent. When I put the new hard drive in my
HP Pavillion last week
I used the recovery CDs to format it and put it back to when it was new.
It booted up in less than
fifteen seconds and shut down in about five seconds. Now, since I put
Service Pack II and about
60 hotfixes and critical patches from Microsoft back it's getting back to
a snail's pace.

snip

I don't think you should have tried to do that on a HP computer. They do not
want you to. In common with IBM, Compaq and some others they have secret
files and their own stuff all mixed up on the disk with the operating
system. That is why they only give you their own setup disk instead of the
original disks for Windows (or whatever) operating system. If you have the
original system disks you can wipe your drive and reinstall everything and
get going easily again if you hit a problem, always provided that you keep
the 'C' drive for programmes for which you have the disks and keep all your
personal files on another drive.
Works for me anyway.