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I just bought a 1986 O'Day 31. I received a lot of paperwork with the
boat, but no owner's manual. Is there an owner's manual for this boat? If
anyone has one, I would like to get a copy.

I have to replace all the running rigging on the boat. The rigging is very
worn, but it appears that the size of the lines are as follows:
Reefing lines: 3/8"
Jib Halyard: 3/8"
Main Sheet: 1/2"
Main Halyard: 3/8"
Can anyone confirm that these are the right line sizes?

Thanks for any assistance.

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On Nov 28, 9:42*pm, "BFan" wrote:
I just bought a 1986 O'Day 31. *I *received a lot of paperwork with the
boat, but no owner's manual. *Is there an owner's manual for this boat? *If
anyone has one, I would like to get a copy.

I have to replace all the running rigging on the boat. *The rigging is very
worn, but it appears that the size of the lines are as follows:
Reefing lines: *3/8"
Jib Halyard: *3/8"
Main Sheet: *1/2"
Main Halyard: *3/8"
Can anyone confirm that these are the right line sizes?

Thanks for any assistance

A Google search might turn up an owners group with a online manual.
As far as replacing running rigging goes those sizes sound fine
although upgrading to a slightly higher tech line would allow you to
drop down a size in halyards particularly the jib halyard. Mainsheet
would not have to be high tech and you could still drop down to 3/8" I
use 3/8" StaSet on my boat and it has a bigger main than yours. Buy
solid black for the mainsheet.

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message use 3/8"
StaSet on my boat and it has a bigger ma Buy
solid black for the mainsheet.


Why?

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Buy
solid black for the mainsheet.

Why?

Scott,
I like solid black for the mainsheet because it's always being
handled and it lays on the cabin sole and gets stepped on. After all
that it still looks good. Anything else looks crappy after a season.
I also use black for the outhaul and Harken jib cars. That jib car
line is always getting stepped on too.
Everything else is color coded.

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com..
..


Buy
solid black for the mainsheet.

Why?

Scott,
I like solid black for the mainsheet because it's
always being
handled and it lays on the cabin sole and gets stepped on.
After all
that it still looks good. Anything else looks crappy
after a season.
I also use black for the outhaul and Harken jib cars.
That jib car
line is always getting stepped on too.
Everything else is color coded.

Yeah, good point.

SBV

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I always love it when some ****** starts a thread by asking a question
and never has the curtesy to participate later with so much as a
thanks.

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I never got any replies! Who should I thank? Get a life.


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...
I always love it when some ****** starts a thread by asking a question
and never has the curtesy to participate later with so much as a
thanks.

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P.S. I am a brand new sailor. This is my first boat. I do not have much
to offer in the line of advice to people who have been sailing for any
period of time. I was just looking for a little help. You are a jerk.


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...
I always love it when some ****** starts a thread by asking a question
and never has the curtesy to participate later with so much as a
thanks.

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BFan wrote:
I never got any replies! Who should I thank? Get a life.


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...

I always love it when some ****** starts a thread by asking a question
and never has the curtesy to participate later with so much as a
thanks.




I thought I had replied, being a former owner of 2 O'Day's...but maybe I
didn't...mine were originals, not Person built or Lear built, which I
believe, is what your is. With the European style cabin? We were very
happy with the perfotmance of our 27. Have no idea who you would wirte
regarding manuals etc, but there is an O'Day discussion group somewhere.
Is SailNet still in existence? THat's where it used to be.

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"BFan" wrote in message
...
P.S. I am a brand new sailor. This is my first boat. I do not have much
to offer in the line of advice to people who have been sailing for any
period of time. I was just looking for a little help. You are a jerk.


"Ringmaster" wrote in message
oups.com...
I always love it when some ****** starts a thread by asking a question
and never has the curtesy to participate later with so much as a
thanks.





Hey, chill. this is tough crowd. No one answered because no one knows. Looks
like you posted your question to several places, so maybe you'll find
something useful.

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On Dec 7, 8:58*pm, "BFan" wrote:
I never got any replies! *Who should I thank? *Get a life.

What do you mean you never got any replys? You tell me to get a
life! I spent a few moments of my life trying to help your ass out. I
guess you can't follow this newsgroups thread.
Than you have the balls to write this:
P.S. I am a brand new sailor. This is my first boat. I do
not have much
to offer in the line of advice to people who have been sailing for any
period of time. I was just looking for a little help. You are a
jerk.

Is this guy for real? I leave a post to help you out and you write
the above.

Bottom line here is your nothing but a ****ing ****** and your
choice of boats proves it. O'Days are cheaply made, undercanvased
pieces of ****. We have one in our race club and they can't even get
back in time on Wednesday nights before the cookout food gets cold.
Oh, and it's bigger than yours. O'Days are owned by ******s like you
who can't even figure out what size line to buy for halyards. There's
only a ton of information out there on choosing line. I guess your
too stupid to find it or your too lazy.
You should have bought a Sunfish to get started. I'll bet you can't
even dock that floating houseboat. Your probably a menace at your
marina. Now get lost you stupid **** before you get your ass kicked
all over this newsgroup.

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Hey, chill. this is tough crowd. No one answered because no one
knows.

I'm sorry?.......... Look back. I left this idiot a courteous and
detailed answer to his question days ago. The dimwit can't even follow
a thread that he started. He said nobody replied. I guess he was
waiting for his mailman to bring a response. He's almost as stupid as
Boobsprit. Maybe he is Boobsprit.

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Oh, and by the way. A simple Google search turned up 2 O'Day websites
both offering owner's manuals. Now if you can't find that sitting at
your desk how are you going to find your way past the first channel
marker? Once again...........get lost.

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"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey, chill. this is tough crowd. No one answered because no one
knows.

I'm sorry?.......... Look back. I left this idiot a courteous and
detailed answer to his question days ago. The dimwit can't even follow
a thread that he started. He said nobody replied. I guess he was
waiting for his mailman to bring a response. He's almost as stupid as
Boobsprit. Maybe he is Boobsprit.



Missed your reply... well, you tried.

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Oh, and in case the ****** didn't see it (he does miss a lot) there is
a link to the Layline website next to the start of every thread on this
newsgroup. It even has a tag line that states "help on line selection"
I'll bet that guy has a TOW BOAT US card with an upgrade.

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Apparently my news server has missed many of the posts in reply to my
original question. Although I now am able to read posts from Dec 7 and Dec
8, my server still does not show any posts to this thread prior to that
(except Ringmaster's criticism on Dec 5!). I want to thank those of you who
responded, even though I have not seen your posts.

As a matter of fact, I did find a source for the owner's manual (D&R Marine
Supply in Masachusetts). One of the owners is a former employee of O'Day
and is very knowledgable about O'Day construction.

On the whole, my experience as a new sailor is that almost everyone has been
very cordial and helpful. Ringmaster, I do appreciate the fact that you
responded to my original question. Had I seen your response I would have
thanked you. You assume that I am some newbie who knows nothing about
boating or technology (newsgroups). Well, I may be a new sailor, but I an
certainly not a tech newbie. I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.

I have monitored this newsgroup for some time now, and I have seen a lot of
helpful, informative and amusing discussion taking place. The one striking
thing that I noticed, though, is the insults and name-calling that take
place here. When I saw Ringmasters insult, I was not going to accept it
without comment. Normally I just ignore name-callers and trolls, but this
time I had enough.

Sorry if I took the newsgroup in the wrong direction, but foul insults from
people like Ringmaster do not belong in a newsgroup like this.

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BFan wrote:
Apparently my news server has missed many of the posts in reply to my
original question. Although I now am able to read posts from Dec 7 and Dec
8, my server still does not show any posts to this thread prior to that
(except Ringmaster's criticism on Dec 5!). I want to thank those of you who
responded, even though I have not seen your posts.

As a matter of fact, I did find a source for the owner's manual (D&R Marine
Supply in Masachusetts). One of the owners is a former employee of O'Day
and is very knowledgable about O'Day construction.

On the whole, my experience as a new sailor is that almost everyone has been
very cordial and helpful. Ringmaster, I do appreciate the fact that you
responded to my original question. Had I seen your response I would have
thanked you. You assume that I am some newbie who knows nothing about
boating or technology (newsgroups). Well, I may be a new sailor, but I an
certainly not a tech newbie. I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.

I have monitored this newsgroup for some time now, and I have seen a lot of
helpful, informative and amusing discussion taking place. The one striking
thing that I noticed, though, is the insults and name-calling that take
place here. When I saw Ringmasters insult, I was not going to accept it
without comment. Normally I just ignore name-callers and trolls, but this
time I had enough.

Sorry if I took the newsgroup in the wrong direction, but foul insults from
people like Ringmaster do not belong in a newsgroup like this.


You just have to have a thick skin to stay around here...if you ignore
the noise, there are some great people here with good advice.

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"katy" wrote

You just have to have a thick skin to stay around here...if you ignore the noise, there are some great people here
with good advice.



If you ignore the noise it gets awful boring..... You know, you'd be staring at a blank screen. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen


One example of noise...

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"katy" wrote
You just have to have a thick skin to stay around here...if you ignore the noise, there are some great people here
with good advice.


If you ignore the noise it gets awful boring..... You know, you'd be staring at a blank screen. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"katy" wrote

You just have to have a thick skin to stay around here...if you ignore
the noise, there are some great people here with good advice.



If you ignore the noise it gets awful boring..... You know, you'd be
staring at a blank screen. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen
One example of noise...


Hahaha... good one Katy!

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The one striking
thing that I noticed, though, is the insults and name-calling that take

place here. When I saw Ringmasters insult, I was not going to accept
it
without comment. Normally I just ignore name-callers and trolls, but
this
time I had enough. .

Well, if you have been lurking for a while you would notice that I
usually don't get involved with that crap. Except in the case of the
ex Boobsprit. Your comment that you were "responding" is a laugh since
you started the name calling.

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On Dec 8, 8:15*am, "BFan"
wrote:
Apparently my news server has missed many of the posts in reply to my
original question. *Although I now am able to read posts from Dec 7 and Dec
8, my server still does not show any posts to this thread prior to that
(except Ringmaster's criticism on Dec 5!). *I want to thank those of you who
responded, even though I have not seen your posts.

Since your news server missed it (don't know how that works) here is my
original post that I took the time to write.

A Google search might turn up an owners group with a online manual.
As far as replacing running rigging goes those sizes sound fine
although upgrading to a slightly higher tech line would allow you to
drop down a size in halyards particularly the jib halyard. Mainsheet
would not have to be high tech and you could still drop down to 3/8" I

use 3/8" StaSet on my boat and it has a bigger main than yours. Buy
solid black for the mainsheet.

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Well, I may be a new sailor, but I an
certainly not a tech newbie. I provide critical computer programming
and
support for a fortune 500 company. ..

Yea, your the guy who tells everyone who calls with a problem to
reboot.

I would think a person who provides "critical programming and support"
who was having a problem reading newsgroups would know to:

http://news.google.com/archivesearch

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BFan wrote:
....
I have monitored this newsgroup for some time now, and I have seen a lot of
helpful, informative and amusing discussion taking place. The one striking
thing that I noticed, though, is the insults and name-calling that take
place here.

You have to remember that the same small group has been here for
years; some of these feuds have gone on for five years or more. My
discussion with Jim has been going now for 2.5 years.

For most newcomers, we remain civil. Even helpful. But you want
polite, try rec.boats.cruising. If fact, you'll find half of us are
there also.

When I saw Ringmasters insult, I was not going to accept it
without comment. Normally I just ignore name-callers and trolls, but this
time I had enough.

It was just a sign of endearment.

Sorry if I took the newsgroup in the wrong direction,

there really is no wrong direction

but foul insults from
people like Ringmaster do not belong in a newsgroup like this.

If not here, where?

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"BFan" wrote in
message ...
I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.


yeah, you and everybody else on the Net.

SV

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

"katy" wrote
You just have to have a thick skin to stay around
here...if you ignore the noise, there are some great people
here
with good advice.


If you ignore the noise it gets awful boring..... You
know, you'd be staring at a blank screen. :-)


Do you hear voices from your screen?

SV

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"BFan" wrote in
message ...
I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.


yeah, you and everybody else on the Net.

SV




Me too.

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"BFan" wrote in
message ...
I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.

yeah, you and everybody else on the Net.

SV




Me too.

I used too. At the time it seemed real critical, with hindsight its
really not that critical, and soon it will all be in the Great Bit
Bucket in the Sky. Actually, since I worked on spreadsheet software,
there probably were a few million folks that used my stuff, but it was
all cosmetic, graphics, and performance. I never changed the cell
engine or formula evaluator.

One of the last little things I did was to be on call on New Year's
Day, 2000, on the chance that the Millennium Bug would hit. I did a
few hours of prep to make sure I knew where sources were, and promised
to come right in, sober at midnight if needed, when it hit the fan.
Nothing came of it, of course, and I got a $500 bonus for my effort.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. JG wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"BFan" wrote in
message ...
I provide critical computer programming and
support for a fortune 500 company.

yeah, you and everybody else on the Net.

SV




Me too.

I used too. At the time it seemed real critical, with hindsight its
really not that critical, and soon it will all be in the Great Bit Bucket
in the Sky. Actually, since I worked on spreadsheet software, there
probably were a few million folks that used my stuff, but it was all
cosmetic, graphics, and performance. I never changed the cell engine or
formula evaluator.

One of the last little things I did was to be on call on New Year's Day,
2000, on the chance that the Millennium Bug would hit. I did a few hours
of prep to make sure I knew where sources were, and promised to come right
in, sober at midnight if needed, when it hit the fan. Nothing came of it,
of course, and I got a $500 bonus for my effort.


Ah, the millennium bug debacle... we had a party and hoped it would all
end... no such luck.


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"Donal" wrote

Donal, you might want to check the clock on your computer. It's got you posting on the 9th....

Cheers,
Ellen

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"BFan" wrote in message
...
When I saw Ringmasters insult, I was not going to accept it
without comment. Normally I just ignore name-callers and trolls, but this
time I had enough.

It sounds like you have a bit of an Ego problem. It really doesn't matter
what strangers on Usenet think of you. We cannot affect your next pay rise.
We cannot affect how your wife, friends or family treat you. Our opinion of
you is totally irrelevant. If you want to take offence from total
strangers, then you probably need a little bit of therapy.

Sorry if I took the newsgroup in the wrong direction, but foul insults
from
people like Ringmaster do not belong in a newsgroup like this.

Actually, foul insults are quite welcome here. Most of the posters are not
only mature enough to recognise the wit in a good insult, but they
appreciate the humour.


Regards


Donal
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