Winch Question for you...
 

How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Winch Question for you...
 

Bigger handle?

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"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Winch Question for you...
 

How much bigger?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Bigger handle?

"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Winch Question for you...
 

Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


rebuild it....

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Don't know... a few inches maybe. I'm not familar with them.

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"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
How much bigger?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Bigger handle?

"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Winch Question for you...
 

"Bart" .@. wrote
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Bigger handle?

"Bart" .@. wrote
How much bigger?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Don't know... a few inches maybe. I'm not familar with them.


48/40 = 1.2 So it needs to be 20 % bigger.

This is the benefit of the newer winches being sized
in the power ratio.

Power ratio is calculated as follows:

(Handle Length/Drum Diameter) x Gear Ratio=Power Ratio.

Typically these are calculated for a 10" winch handle.

For a power ratio 48:
This means a pound of handle input, generates 48 lbs of power.
An adult is capable of handling loads of 35 lb typically, so the
winch can pull 1680 lb of sheet and halyards .

Going from 8 to 10" give you 25% more power.
10" to 12" give you exactly 20% more. Although
I've never seen a 12 in winch handle, I'd like to have
one though.

You don't get something for nothing. A longer handle is
slower than a shorter handle. So the idea is to size the
winch to the load.

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I guess I was wrong... I should have said a couple of inches. I said a few.
:-)

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"Bart" .@. wrote in message ...
"Bart" .@. wrote
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Bigger handle?

"Bart" .@. wrote
How much bigger?

"Capt. JG" wrote
Don't know... a few inches maybe. I'm not familar with them.


48/40 = 1.2 So it needs to be 20 % bigger.

This is the benefit of the newer winches being sized
in the power ratio.

Power ratio is calculated as follows:

(Handle Length/Drum Diameter) x Gear Ratio=Power Ratio.

Typically these are calculated for a 10" winch handle.

For a power ratio 48:
This means a pound of handle input, generates 48 lbs of power.
An adult is capable of handling loads of 35 lb typically, so the
winch can pull 1680 lb of sheet and halyards .

Going from 8 to 10" give you 25% more power.
10" to 12" give you exactly 20% more. Although
I've never seen a 12 in winch handle, I'd like to have
one though.

You don't get something for nothing. A longer handle is
slower than a shorter handle. So the idea is to size the
winch to the load.

Winch Question for you...
 

Bart wrote:

How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Add 8.

// Walt

Winch Question for you...
 

Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


Walt wrote:
Add 8.


You make it sound so easy.

DSK

Winch Question for you...
 

"Bart" .@. wrote in message
...


You don't get something for nothing. A longer handle is
slower than a shorter handle. So the idea is to size the
winch to the load.


If you went from a 40 to a 48, wouldn't that be slower (with
the same handle).?

Scotty

Winch Size...
 

I have Lewmar ST 40 s on my boat. The jib sheets are big and
fuzzy ( 1/2'' IIRC ) soft to the touch, but they 'hang up'
on the stays in light air. I bought some smaller line (
Stayset 3/8 IIRC ) . It sorta works with the self tailing,
but slips half the time, or comes out of the ST part
completely. Someone suggested the new line is too slippery
and maybe it will wear in. Is there anything I can do to the
winch to remedy this situation?


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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


Walt wrote:
Add 8.


You make it sound so easy.

DSK

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DSK wrote:
Bart wrote:

How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?

Walt wrote:

Add 8.

You make it sound so easy.


It's not. You need three people, because by the time you've gotten to
40, you and your helper are all out of fingers and toes.


That's why the 48 is so expensive - it's not the parts, it's the labor.


// Walt
//
// There is no Lewmar Conspiracy

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Scotty wrote:
I have Lewmar ST 40 s on my boat. The jib sheets are big and
fuzzy ( 1/2'' IIRC ) soft to the touch, but they 'hang up'
on the stays in light air. I bought some smaller line (
Stayset 3/8 IIRC ) . It sorta works with the self tailing,
but slips half the time, or comes out of the ST part
completely. Someone suggested the new line is too slippery
and maybe it will wear in. Is there anything I can do to the
winch to remedy this situation?


no


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Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_






"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


Walt wrote:
Add 8.


You make it sound so easy.

DSK

Winch Size...
 

You made a mistake going for smaller rope. You should have stayed with 1/2"
which is better for handling until it comes onto the winch, but made sure
that this time you did not get fuzzy rope.
I do not think a big(ish) winch is good at handling small rope as the
makers rather expect the rope size to increase in proportion to the winch.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I have Lewmar ST 40 s on my boat. The jib sheets are big and
fuzzy ( 1/2'' IIRC ) soft to the touch, but they 'hang up'
on the stays in light air. I bought some smaller line (
Stayset 3/8 IIRC ) . It sorta works with the self tailing,
but slips half the time, or comes out of the ST part
completely. Someone suggested the new line is too slippery
and maybe it will wear in. Is there anything I can do to the
winch to remedy this situation?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_






"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


Walt wrote:
Add 8.


You make it sound so easy.

DSK

Winch Size...
 

I was trying to save some weight.

Scotty

"Edgar" wrote in message
...
You made a mistake going for smaller rope. You should have
stayed with 1/2"
which is better for handling until it comes onto the
winch, but made sure
that this time you did not get fuzzy rope.
I do not think a big(ish) winch is good at handling small
rope as the
makers rather expect the rope size to increase in
proportion to the winch.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I have Lewmar ST 40 s on my boat. The jib sheets are big
and
fuzzy ( 1/2'' IIRC ) soft to the touch, but they 'hang
up'
on the stays in light air. I bought some smaller line (
Stayset 3/8 IIRC ) . It sorta works with the self
tailing,
but slips half the time, or comes out of the ST part
completely. Someone suggested the new line is too
slippery
and maybe it will wear in. Is there anything I can do to
the
winch to remedy this situation?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_






"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:
How do you make a Lewmar 40 perform like a
Lewmar 48?


Walt wrote:
Add 8.


You make it sound so easy.

DSK

Winch Size...
 

Stick with the heavier line. Put some rollers on the stays.
I've seen short lengths of PVC slipped over the stays. Not pretty
but it works.

Another option, you could splice in some more core in the section of
the line where it meets the winch. That would be more difficult with
older line but might be worth the effort.

"Scotty" wrote
I have Lewmar ST 40 s on my boat. The jib sheets are big and
fuzzy ( 1/2'' IIRC ) soft to the touch, but they 'hang up'
on the stays in light air. I bought some smaller line (
Stayset 3/8 IIRC ) . It sorta works with the self tailing,
but slips half the time, or comes out of the ST part
completely. Someone suggested the new line is too slippery
and maybe it will wear in. Is there anything I can do to the
winch to remedy this situation?

Winch Question for you...
 

"Scotty" wrote

"Bart" .@. wrote
You don't get something for nothing. A longer handle is
slower than a shorter handle. So the idea is to size the
winch to the load.


If you went from a 40 to a 48, wouldn't that be slower (with
the same handle).?

Scotty

Yes. Easier to sheet in, but slower.

Winch Question for you...
 

Bart wrote:


Going from 8 to 10" give you 25% more power.
10" to 12" give you exactly 20% more. Although
I've never seen a 12 in winch handle, I'd like to have
one though.

I've got Lewmars on my boat, one 10" handle in black anodized aluminum
and one 12" chromed steel handle, it's a heavy bugger. The longer handle
rarely sees use, it's amazingly awkward turning a handle through a 24"
diameter circle, but when you are kedging of it's a blessing.

Cheers
Marty
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