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Gilligan wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....9ddls4rg.html Total BS, no FN way. Some Iranian just googled up some images of a carrier and lied about it for propaganda reasons. Infact if you look at the aircraft they look like delta wing fighters, most likely Korean era picture. Joe |
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OzOne wrote: On 13 Nov 2006 06:54:40 -0800, "Joe" scribbled thusly: Gilligan wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/1....9ddls4rg.html Total BS, no FN way. Some Iranian just googled up some images of a carrier and lied about it for propaganda reasons. Infact if you look at the aircraft they look like delta wing fighters, most likely Korean era picture. Joe No way what? No way would an Iranian drone be able to get that close to a US carrier. It would have been blown out of the sky. Joe " The war games coincided with US-led naval manoeuvres in the Gulf off Iran aimed at halting arms-trafficking, the first time such an exercise has been held in the area." Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Total BS, no FN way. Some Iranian just googled up some images of a carrier and lied about it for propaganda reasons. Infact if you look at the aircraft they look like delta wing fighters, most likely Korean era picture. Joe I thought they were biplanes and that was a 1920's era photo. Good God Joe use your brain! That's why it is in your head!! When did the first angled deck carriers come out? See the C-2 in the catapult? How big do you think the Iraqi drone was? |
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Gilligan wrote:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK |
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Gilligan wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Total BS, no FN way. Some Iranian just googled up some images of a carrier and lied about it for propaganda reasons. Infact if you look at the aircraft they look like delta wing fighters, most likely Korean era picture. Joe I thought they were biplanes and that was a 1920's era photo. Good God Joe use your brain! That's why it is in your head!! It's a Nimitz class carrier...OZ don't know no difference. Why do you mess up my chumming? When did the first angled deck carriers come out? See the C-2 in the catapult? Thats not a C-2 it's a B-2. How big do you think the Iraqi drone was? 12ft wing span http://img78.exs.cx/img78/7278/drone.jpg Joe |
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Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 Some iranian propaganda BSer says it's so, and you take it as fact? LIES all lies. Remember Bagdads propaganda minister? Joe |
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DSK wrote: Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Joe |
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See the C-2 in the catapult?
Joe wrote: Thats not a C-2 it's a B-2. One of these? http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2392 My God the Iraqis have not only developed the atom bomb, they have time travel! DSK |
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That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a
helicopter for an air intercept. Joe wrote: It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Umm, Joe... your sarcasm detector needs a new battery. DSK |
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DSK wrote: See the C-2 in the catapult? Joe wrote: Thats not a C-2 it's a B-2. One of these? http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2392 no..one of these: http://www.fluidmech.net/gallery/conden/b2bgs.jpg Joe My God the Iraqis have not only developed the atom bomb, they have time travel! DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message .. . Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. |
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That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for
an air intercept. Gilligan wrote: There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)? And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? It's not just bull****, it's silly. DSK |
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DSK wrote:
That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. Gilligan wrote: There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)? And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? It's not just bull****, it's silly. DSK Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck... |
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katy wrote: DSK wrote: That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. Gilligan wrote: There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)? And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? It's not just bull****, it's silly. DSK Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck... thats not the point Katy, no(non space) flying object should be anywhere near that close to a carrier without permission. If it were a drone the Navy would have taken it out. The Iranians are just fluffing themself up to make thier capabilities look like more than they are. After all if you can get a drone that close surely you can get a missle that close. It's total BS. Joe |
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katysails wrote:
Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck... Well, that's basically true. Although some of the details of specific gear is top secret, and you're not going to see that by looking at the ship. The only value in watching carrier deck ops is if there are specialists who can tell what planes are being readied with what sort of loadout, then you can predict what their mission will be. I strongly doubt there are any Iranians with that kind of knowledge & experience, even if they did have drone watching (which I also strongly doubt). DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message . .. That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. Gilligan wrote: There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)? AIM-9 air to air missile on: AH-64. http://www.novia.net/~tomcat/AIM-9.html AH-1Z: http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.co.../bellAH-1Z.cfm AH-1W Flying off of the USS Bataan with AIM-9 missiles: http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/supcobra/ The real question: is the heat signature of the drone enough for any missile in the Navy inventory? Probably not. No fighter jet will lock onto that slow moving, small drone. So send a helicopter up with a 30 caliber machine gun and knock it out of the sky. And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. It's not just bull****, it's silly. It is silly to try and use million dollar missiles to knock a large toy RC plane out of the sky. The Bismarck was sunk by biplanes because the gun directors on the Bismarck were not calibrated for such slow flying planes. Will history repeat itself? DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message ... katysails wrote: Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck... Well, that's basically true. Although some of the details of specific gear is top secret, and you're not going to see that by looking at the ship. The only value in watching carrier deck ops is if there are specialists who can tell what planes are being readied with what sort of loadout, then you can predict what their mission will be. I strongly doubt there are any Iranians with that kind of knowledge & experience, even if they did have drone watching (which I also strongly doubt). DSK At one time Iran had the 2nd largest F-14 force in the world. http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/jetfighters/F14/f14.html |
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I may be mistaken, but isn't that an A-4 on cat 3?
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 Some iranian propaganda BSer says it's so, and you take it as fact? LIES all lies. Remember Bagdads propaganda minister? Joe |
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"Gilligan" wrote in message ... And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. It flies underhead? It is silly to try and use million dollar missiles to knock a large toy RC plane out of the sky. The Bismarck was sunk by biplanes because the gun directors on the Bismarck were not calibrated for such slow flying planes. Will history repeat itself? Iran has biplanes? S |
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"Gilligan" wrote in message . .. At one time Iran had the 2nd largest F-14 force in the world. At one time Britannia ruled the seas, my friend. What's your point? Scotty |
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Gilligan wrote: "DSK" wrote in message . .. That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. Gilligan wrote: There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way. Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)? AIM-9 air to air missile on: AH-64. http://www.novia.net/~tomcat/AIM-9.html AH-1Z: http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.co.../bellAH-1Z.cfm AH-1W Flying off of the USS Bataan with AIM-9 missiles: http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/supcobra/ The real question: is the heat signature of the drone enough for any missile in the Navy inventory? Probably not. No fighter jet will lock onto that slow moving, small drone. So send a helicopter up with a 30 caliber machine gun and knock it out of the sky. And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. It's not just bull****, it's silly. It is silly to try and use million dollar missiles to knock a large toy RC plane out of the sky. The Bismarck was sunk by biplanes because the gun directors on the Bismarck were not calibrated for such slow flying planes. Will history repeat itself? How's about the Phalanx .. A "last line of defense" for ships, the Phalanx is a rapid-fire, computer-controlled radar and 20-millimeter gun system that can automatically track and destroy close-range enemy threats such as low-flying cruise missiles, small boats and helicopters. Since 1979, more than 850 Phalanx systems have been built and deployed in the navies of 22 allied nations, Raytheon says. Firing 3,000 to 4,500 armor-piercing rounds per minute, the Phalanx was battle-tested by the British during the Falklands War. The advanced Phalanx 1B version includes advanced Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) and beefier gun barrels. Joe DSK |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... How's about the Phalanx . A "last line of defense" for ships, the Phalanx is a rapid-fire, computer-controlled radar and 20-millimeter gun system that can automatically track and destroy close-range enemy threats such as low-flying cruise missiles, small boats and helicopters. Since 1979, more than 850 Phalanx systems have been built and deployed in the navies of 22 allied nations, Raytheon says. Firing 3,000 to 4,500 armor-piercing rounds per minute, the Phalanx was battle-tested by the British during the Falklands War. The advanced Phalanx 1B version includes advanced Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) and beefier gun barrels. http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm http://www.navybook.com/nohigherhonor/ First you have to turn the Phalanx on. It has a warm up time. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Gilligan" wrote in message ... And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. It flies underhead? At 200 miles they are over the horizon and below you. It is silly to try and use million dollar missiles to knock a large toy RC plane out of the sky. The Bismarck was sunk by biplanes because the gun directors on the Bismarck were not calibrated for such slow flying planes. Will history repeat itself? Iran has biplanes? No, just toy airplanes with the capability to fly undetected over American aircraft carriers for 20 minutes and then evade aircraft without getting shot down. S |
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"JR" wrote in message ... I may be mistaken, but isn't that an A-4 on cat 3? Yes, John McCain is flying it. That carrier is really the Forrestal. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. At one time Iran had the 2nd largest F-14 force in the world. At one time Britannia ruled the seas, my friend. What's your point? Doug questions the knowledge and experience of Iranians with regards to carrier operations and aircraft. I'm just pointing out that Iran was the only nation outside of the US to fly F-14's the most sophisticated aircraft of its time and capable of launching phoenix missiles. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/aim-54.htm Here the Iranians repair the Phoenix missiles that the US gave to them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix Note that they have shot down multiple planes with one missile. It would appear the Iranians are quite capable and possess some formidible weaponry. Both the capabilities and weapons were supplied by the US. You can't beat American weapon systems and training. One again, America screws itself. I don't understand why the Liberals haven't caught one and are whining about America arming up the Iranians. This is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Don't get me going on what nuclear capabilities the US supplied to Iran. Notice Bush is worried about Iran and not North Korea. Iran has had some help from the world's foremost nuclear armed nation in getting their own capabilities up and running. It's going to get ugly. |
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have a CAP overhead? "Gilligan" The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. "Scotty" wrote It flies underhead? Underhanded Gilligan wrote: At 200 miles they are over the horizon and below you. And only minutes away. As well the question, how is a slow drone going to penetrate the CAP radius? Does it drop in from outer space, directly above the carrier? Or does it materialze from another space-time continuum? Iran has biplanes? No, just toy airplanes with the capability to fly undetected over American aircraft carriers for 20 minutes and then evade aircraft without getting shot down. I'm telling you, they have time travel. DSK |
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OzOne wrote:
A trap that many westerners fall into. Because the Arabic states are sand....it doesn't mean that the people are any less capable than anyone else. Those "ragheads" dress the way they do because they're smart.... I don't think they're stupid at all. In fact I think they are very intelligent and subtle, and in the Big Game of realpolitik they have outplayed the West for years. OTOH I don't think they have anybody with the knowledge & experience to make any meaningful analysis of watching carrier flight deck ops. As Gilligan says, they flew F-14s.... decades ago, and not off carriers... I bet there's nobody from the Shah's military left. That's not saying they're stupid, that's saying that they just don't have carriers or people who are experienced naval aviation intel specialists. DSK |
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Yes, but, we have ''the big one''.
S "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. At one time Iran had the 2nd largest F-14 force in the world. At one time Britannia ruled the seas, my friend. What's your point? Doug questions the knowledge and experience of Iranians with regards to carrier operations and aircraft. I'm just pointing out that Iran was the only nation outside of the US to fly F-14's the most sophisticated aircraft of its time and capable of launching phoenix missiles. http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/aim-54.htm Here the Iranians repair the Phoenix missiles that the US gave to them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIM-54_Phoenix Note that they have shot down multiple planes with one missile. It would appear the Iranians are quite capable and possess some formidible weaponry. Both the capabilities and weapons were supplied by the US. You can't beat American weapon systems and training. One again, America screws itself. I don't understand why the Liberals haven't caught one and are whining about America arming up the Iranians. This is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Don't get me going on what nuclear capabilities the US supplied to Iran. Notice Bush is worried about Iran and not North Korea. Iran has had some help from the world's foremost nuclear armed nation in getting their own capabilities up and running. It's going to get ugly. |
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"DSK" wrote in message .. . OzOne wrote: A trap that many westerners fall into. Because the Arabic states are sand....it doesn't mean that the people are any less capable than anyone else. Those "ragheads" dress the way they do because they're smart.... I don't think they're stupid at all. In fact I think they are very intelligent and subtle, and in the Big Game of realpolitik they have outplayed the West for years. OTOH I don't think they have anybody with the knowledge & experience to make any meaningful analysis of watching carrier flight deck ops. As Gilligan says, they flew F-14s.... decades ago, and not off carriers... I bet there's nobody from the Shah's military left. That's not saying they're stupid, that's saying that they just don't have carriers or people who are experienced naval aviation intel specialists. DSK One year ago Iranian agents caught buying parts for F-14: http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/new...p?storyid=1861 More on Iranian F-14's: http://www.amazon.com/Iranian-Tomcat.../dp/1841767875 Russia upgrades Iranian F-14's: http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0077.shtml Iranian F-14 crashes during training in 2004: http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040621123352.qir2y8ys.html Video of Iranian F-14 flying dated Sept 8, 2006: http://www.murdoconline.net/archives/004125.html Note it is modified to carry upgraded missiles. Link to satellite photo of operational Iranian F-14 on ground: http://www.irandefence.net/showthread.php?t=3187 Iranian pilots were trained by the US at Miramar NAS. They do not need to know intimate details of American carrier operations. All they need to know is how to sink one. |
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"DSK" wrote in message . .. And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP overhead? "Gilligan" The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead. "Scotty" wrote It flies underhead? Underhanded Gilligan wrote: At 200 miles they are over the horizon and below you. And only minutes away. 20 seconds to execute turn, 200 miles at 600 mph = 20 minutes, 30 seconds to decelerate, we're looking at 21 minutes. Even at 1200 mph we're looking at 12 minutes not counting time to acquire target. The carrier plane guard is to keep planes out, it is not too responsive to planes on top of the carrier. As well the question, how is a slow drone going to penetrate the CAP radius? Does it drop in from outer space, directly above the carrier? Or does it materialze from another space-time continuum? Iran has biplanes? No, just toy airplanes with the capability to fly undetected over American aircraft carriers for 20 minutes and then evade aircraft without getting shot down. I'm telling you, they have time travel. I think it is the flying carpets. DSK |
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Gilligan wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... How's about the Phalanx . A "last line of defense" for ships, the Phalanx is a rapid-fire, computer-controlled radar and 20-millimeter gun system that can automatically track and destroy close-range enemy threats such as low-flying cruise missiles, small boats and helicopters. Since 1979, more than 850 Phalanx systems have been built and deployed in the navies of 22 allied nations, Raytheon says. Firing 3,000 to 4,500 armor-piercing rounds per minute, the Phalanx was battle-tested by the British during the Falklands War. The advanced Phalanx 1B version includes advanced Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) and beefier gun barrels. http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm Yeah, it was the iranians plot, and fault. http://www.navybook.com/nohigherhonor/ First you have to turn the Phalanx on. It has a warm up time. http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...be-phalanx.jpg Maybe in antarticia, but the radar is allready scanning in CIC. You would think it would be ideal for drones, true they are an under used weapon but I here the Army is mounting them on trailors and setting them up to take out mortar rounds in Iraq. Only problem is the huge coulds of AP rounds have to land somewhere. Watch and listen(headphones cranked up), takes a few seconds for the sound to reach these good ol boys. Sounds like dragons roaring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESw9gqQnJ_0 Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Gilligan wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... How's about the Phalanx . A "last line of defense" for ships, the Phalanx is a rapid-fire, computer-controlled radar and 20-millimeter gun system that can automatically track and destroy close-range enemy threats such as low-flying cruise missiles, small boats and helicopters. Since 1979, more than 850 Phalanx systems have been built and deployed in the navies of 22 allied nations, Raytheon says. Firing 3,000 to 4,500 armor-piercing rounds per minute, the Phalanx was battle-tested by the British during the Falklands War. The advanced Phalanx 1B version includes advanced Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) and beefier gun barrels. http://eightiesclub.tripod.com/id344.htm Yeah, it was the iranians plot, and fault. http://www.navybook.com/nohigherhonor/ First you have to turn the Phalanx on. It has a warm up time. http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/...be-phalanx.jpg Maybe in antarticia, but the radar is allready scanning in CIC. You would think it would be ideal for drones, true they are an under used weapon but I here the Army is mounting them on trailors and setting them up to take out mortar rounds in Iraq. Only problem is the huge coulds of AP rounds have to land somewhere. Watch and listen(headphones cranked up), takes a few seconds for the sound to reach these good ol boys. Sounds like dragons roaring. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESw9gqQnJ_0 Joe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/weaps/mk-15.htm The radar on the Phalanx operates independent of CIC. The Phalanx is intended to be an automatic defense system as reaction time for incoming missiles is very short. Recent upgrades to the system do allow for targeting control from CIC. Running the system continuously increases the maintenance costs and the mandatory down time of the system. Most ships only turn on the system when necessary. It is unfortunate that you spent your naval career aboard such a low priority target that it wasn't even considered for a Phalanx system, let alone any gun system that required a fixed mount. |
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OzOne wrote: On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:45:07 -0500, "Scotty" scribbled thusly: Yes, but, we have ''the big one''. That's why everyone else wants one now. After Shrubs performance..they don't trust you. Well thats pretty stupid and dangerious. It's this way..The N. Korea Gomer who digs Elvis sunglasses and punk haircuts has a .22. He is aming it at 100 marines all with .50 cal machine guns. BTW Gomer is starving his people so he can buy a .22 cal saturday night special to aim at us. Unless he spends all his people wealth for the next 100 years he will have no chance of survival if he pulls the trigger....he and all his people will be dead. And you do not trust Bush. Next we have an ugly Sonny Bono look alike with a shortman complex. He says the holocaust (Thats were the Nazis murdered all thoses people) was made up and did not happen. He says he is going to wipe out Isreal as they have not right to exist. And you worry about Bush. Brainwashed you are. Better tell your women to wear scarves from head to toe...dont want them causing crime now do we? Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Nope. January 4 - July 6, 2006: Maiden deployment to western Pacific and Persian Gulf. http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn76.html Source. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Nope. January 4 - July 6, 2006: Maiden deployment to western Pacific and Persian Gulf. http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn76.html Source. Eisboch Eisboch she returned to Port July 6th...just how did an Iranian drone take pictures of her in November in the Persian Gulf? Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Eisboch wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Nope. January 4 - July 6, 2006: Maiden deployment to western Pacific and Persian Gulf. http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn76.html Source. Eisboch Eisboch she returned to Port July 6th...just how did an Iranian drone take pictures of her in November in the Persian Gulf? Joe The date of the Iranian "report" is May 30, 2006. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Eisboch wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Gilligan wrote: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584 That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for an air intercept. DSK It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left port the 9th for fleet operations. Nope. January 4 - July 6, 2006: Maiden deployment to western Pacific and Persian Gulf. http://www.navysite.de/cvn/cvn76.html Source. Eisboch Eisboch she returned to Port July 6th...just how did an Iranian drone take pictures of her in November in the Persian Gulf? Joe The date of the Iranian "report" is May 30, 2006. You need to read the original article Gilligan posted. Only time mentioned was "end of recent war games" . Joe Eisboch |
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