That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a
helicopter for an air intercept.


Joe wrote:
It don't ring ****..The Ronald Regan was in San Deigo, she just left
port the 9th for fleet operations.


Umm, Joe... your sarcasm detector needs a new battery.

DSK

DSK wrote:
See the C-2 in the catapult?


Joe wrote:
Thats not a C-2 it's a B-2.



One of these?
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/fac...et.asp?id=2392

no..one of these: http://www.fluidmech.net/gallery/conden/b2bgs.jpg

Joe

My God the Iraqis have not only developed the atom bomb,
they have time travel!

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Gilligan wrote:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584


That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for
an air intercept.

DSK

There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way.

That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for
an air intercept.


Gilligan wrote:
There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way.


Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the
loadout for air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military
rotating-wing unit (much less carrier cert)?

And why would they launch more fighters when they always
have a CAP overhead?

It's not just bull****, it's silly.

DSK

DSK wrote:
That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter
for an air intercept.


Gilligan wrote:

There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way.


Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for
air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much
less carrier cert)?

And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP
overhead?

It's not just bull****, it's silly.

DSK

Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter
what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck...

katy wrote:
DSK wrote:
That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter
for an air intercept.


Gilligan wrote:

There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way.


Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for
air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much
less carrier cert)?

And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP
overhead?

It's not just bull****, it's silly.

DSK

Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter
what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck...

thats not the point Katy, no(non space) flying object should be
anywhere near
that close to a carrier without permission. If it were a drone the Navy
would have taken it out.

The Iranians are just fluffing themself up to make thier capabilities
look like more than they are. After all if you can get a drone that
close surely you can get a missle that close.

It's total BS.

Joe

katysails wrote:
Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter
what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck...

Well, that's basically true. Although some of the details of
specific gear is top secret, and you're not going to see
that by looking at the ship.

The only value in watching carrier deck ops is if there are
specialists who can tell what planes are being readied with
what sort of loadout, then you can predict what their
mission will be. I strongly doubt there are any Iranians
with that kind of knowledge & experience, even if they did
have drone watching (which I also strongly doubt).

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
That certainly carries the ring of truth: "scrambling" a helicopter for
an air intercept.


Gilligan wrote:
There's always a helo ready to go when launch/recovery ops under way.

Sure is. Tell me though, what's the platform and what's the loadout for
air-to-air mission, ANY current U.S. military rotating-wing unit (much
less carrier cert)?

AIM-9 air to air missile on:

AH-64.

http://www.novia.net/~tomcat/AIM-9.html

AH-1Z:

http://www.bellhelicopter.textron.co.../bellAH-1Z.cfm

AH-1W Flying off of the USS Bataan with AIM-9 missiles:

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/supcobra/


The real question: is the heat signature of the drone enough for any missile
in the Navy inventory? Probably not. No fighter jet will lock onto that slow
moving, small drone. So send a helicopter up with a 30 caliber machine gun
and knock it out of the sky.





And why would they launch more fighters when they always have a CAP
overhead?

The CAP flies a 200 mile radius, it's not overhead.



It's not just bull****, it's silly.

It is silly to try and use million dollar missiles to knock a large toy RC
plane out of the sky. The Bismarck was sunk by biplanes because the gun
directors on the Bismarck were not calibrated for such slow flying planes.
Will history repeat itself?



DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Guy across the way from us works at Grummon..he says it doesn't matter
what kind of pics they take overhead..nothing secret's on deck...

Well, that's basically true. Although some of the details of specific gear
is top secret, and you're not going to see that by looking at the ship.

The only value in watching carrier deck ops is if there are specialists
who can tell what planes are being readied with what sort of loadout, then
you can predict what their mission will be. I strongly doubt there are any
Iranians with that kind of knowledge & experience, even if they did have
drone watching (which I also strongly doubt).

DSK




At one time Iran had the 2nd largest F-14 force in the world.

http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/jetfighters/F14/f14.html

I may be mistaken, but isn't that an A-4 on cat 3?

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Gilligan wrote:
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=4584

Some iranian propaganda BSer says it's so, and you take it as fact?

LIES all lies.

Remember Bagdads propaganda minister?

Joe