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![]() On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart) scribbled thusly: The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors... Well, maybe so, but on my ketch, the mizzen runners are running backstays, and the staysail forward would be called a spinnaker staysail, to differentiate it from the forestaysail one might set if the boat were rigged as a cutter-yawl, or a heavy weather staysail. KISS is more than a thing you do with your lips, y'all agree? Cheers, Mike |
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OzOne wrote:
It wasn't anything like a snipe.... Gotta agree with you there. A Snipe is a 15 foot sloop, not a yawl at all. It was a challenge to look again. I looked again, and the slot between the mizzen and the mizzen staysail (or whatever you want to call it) looks awful. Am I missing something? //Walt |
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Bart wrote:
Now about the staysail. You notice it is long in the foot and short in the luff. What is the name for that sort of staysail? Low aspect? Very low aspect? Ultra low aspect? You probably have in mind some salty word like "sputterer" or "gollywacker" or something. Sorry, but I'm tapped. (c: //Walt |
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![]() "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Also; The Staysail off the Main Mast is should be classified as the Main Staysail or the Fore Staysail. The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner. I've never heard it referred to as a "runner," but I think that term fits nicely. Maybe better than "staysail." Max |
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![]() OzOne wrote in message ... On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart) scribbled thusly: The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner. Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors... WHAT A PRETTY PICTURE!!!! It is a beauty eh! When flying our genoa, main, mizzen staysail and mizzen on our former Mariner ketch, we used to count the number of boats that sailed or motored close by to take photos. One Sunday afternoon we counted 66. Max |
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![]() "cruisin" wrote in message oups.com... On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:09:45 -0500, "Bart" .@. scribbled thusly: Oz gets no credit because he didn't answer the question, as usual, and his only comment was a snipe. 1 lash for Oz.It wasn't anything like a snipe....It was a challenge to look again. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. OK, Oz, I looked again, and if I were to modify my answer I'd say it's a high-cut mizzen staysail, one that allows the helmsman to see where he's going, unlike most mizzen staysails. What name are you so reticent to divulge that would describe it better? Bart? I would be surprised to hear a different name used in common parliance. The skipper would have to educate his crew and label the bag in large lettering if so. Do you think this boat carries a differently cut mizzen staysail as well? Curious, Mike Perhaps Oz thinks it's a mizzen staysail of yankee cut? A mizzerable yankstaysail? Max |
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Max & (Mike)
A Staysail is usally named and flown from a STAY (Even if it is a temporary set Stay) A Wire Luff isn't a Stay. A Stay is part of the STANDING RIGGING. A Luff Line is part of the RUNNING RIGGING, even if it is wire, it is part of the Sail and not the RIGGING. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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Max,
The name comes from the tack you're on when you fly it. The Main Boom has to be out of the way, as in a down wind Tack or RUNNING before the wind. It is one of the saving graces of a Yawl Mizen Masts (Besides being very pretty) http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
The name comes from the tack you're on when you fly it. The Main Boom has to be out of the way, as in a down wind Tack or RUNNING before the wind. It is one of the saving graces of a Yawl Mizen Masts (Besides being very pretty) Hmmm. It looks to me like the yawl in the picture is reaching, not running - tough to tell from a 2D picture, but the spinaker pole looks to be barely to windward of the bow. http://www.goodoldboat.com/classifieds/TonyPeot.jpg //Walt |
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Walt,
If you look at the picture, you will see that the Sail is set on the Lee side of the Back Stay. With the Runner Set there is no way that the Main Boom can be brought in. I'm sorry if I miss lead you though. A RUNNING SAIL is a sail not set on a stay, used mostly on conditions of working down wind, being broad reaching or dead downwind. It is a Three point, free Flying sail not unlike a Spinnaker. As you can see in the picture, it is set to sail on that Tack. It will have to be lowered to even Jibe. It cannot be used UP WIND because it will interfer with the Main Sail Boom. It's a Running Sail, Set for the Tack that the boat is Sailing, which is Before the Wind. Common called Running http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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