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Bart October 20th 06 06:35 AM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.


[email protected] October 20th 06 04:14 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
"Bart" 0, wrote:

You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.
What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?
Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]
Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.


Realize you don't always get what you want, at least not necessarily
when you want and so: go into the slip bow first; have a beer or take
a nap, or both, waiting for the wind to shift or die; then back out
and turn around and back into the slip later.

Alternatives: You don't posit in your "Given" that the wind aligned
with the length of the slip will not enable patiently allowing that
wind simply blow the boat backward also aligned with the slip; and
nothing you posit as a "Given" above appears to suggest that using the
motor briefly to obtain steerage ability from an angle that would
account for whatever if any prop walk they may be after shifting into
forward as a brake would undermine backing in pretty much as always.




Scotty October 20th 06 04:44 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.


This scenario is what my real slip is like most often. I
simply go past my slip, hug the other,, windward, side of
the fairway, back with enough speed for good steerage, turn
into slip using prop walk to turn stern in. When straight in
slip, gun in forward to stop and also bring stern over to
starboard piling , grab dock line, tie up.

Scotty





Capt. JG October 20th 06 04:57 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
You should be able to back in fairly straight since you can use the engine
to hold the bow in alignment, but not use it so much that it overcomes the
wind. A stern fender would be appropriate. Crew on both sides, no jumping.
Fend off with fenders not limbs.

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"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.




Scotty October 20th 06 05:03 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You should be able to back in fairly straight since you

can use the engine
to hold the bow in alignment, but not use it so much that

it overcomes the
wind. A stern fender would be appropriate. Crew on both

sides, no jumping.
Fend off with fenders not limbs.



fenders? crew? fend off? Phtttttttttt !





Capt. JG October 20th 06 06:01 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
Well, if necessary of course. Not that either of us would need that.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You should be able to back in fairly straight since you

can use the engine
to hold the bow in alignment, but not use it so much that

it overcomes the
wind. A stern fender would be appropriate. Crew on both

sides, no jumping.
Fend off with fenders not limbs.



fenders? crew? fend off? Phtttttttttt !







Edgar October 20th 06 09:57 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
First and foremost-don't even think of trying it in the slip next to mine...

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.




Edgar October 20th 06 09:59 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
Sorry, as a rule I only carry enouh crew for one side.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You should be able to back in fairly straight since you can use the engine
to hold the bow in alignment, but not use it so much that it overcomes the
wind. A stern fender would be appropriate. Crew on both sides, no jumping.
Fend off with fenders not limbs.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.






otnmbrd October 21st 06 12:24 AM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
"Bart" wrote in news:1161322541.858573.223730
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

You want to back into your slip. The wind is aligned
with the slip, so that your bow will be into the wind as
you back in.

What is the best way to get your boat into its slip?

Discuss your thoughts on planning this. [1 pt]

Given: Modern, relatively flat bottomed, single engine
aux 40' sailboat, fin keel, skeg hung rudder, RH two
blade feathering screw, and a wind speed 15 knots
and building.


The problem with questions like these is that many variables exist for
different boats and different operators.
Backing downwind is a hard maneuver (single or twin screw) and you need to
use the wind to handle the bow and the prop and rudder for the stern.....
to varying degrees.
Getting the right mix is what practice and individual skills is all about

Bart October 28th 06 03:57 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
1 point for you Scotty. Good answer.


Scotty wrote:

This scenario is what my real slip is like most often. I
simply go past my slip, hug the other,, windward, side of
the fairway, back with enough speed for good steerage, turn
into slip using prop walk to turn stern in. When straight in
slip, gun in forward to stop and also bring stern over to
starboard piling , grab dock line, tie up.

Scotty



Bart October 28th 06 04:02 PM

Docking Situation Question #10
 
This is not the answer I was looking for but it shows
excellent judgment. 1 point to you.

In fact, this was my solution not long ago when I discovered
my new prop doesn't back well. I'm planning a installing a
new rudder next year to mitigate the problem somewhat.

Backing out is easy because you have the option of a spring
line to control the alignment of the boat. Backing in is much
harder with boats with less forgiving keel/rudder/prop configurations.

wrote:

Realize you don't always get what you want, at least not necessarily
when you want and so: go into the slip bow first;




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