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Dave wrote:

One of the few things I don't like about the CS is its iron keel.

I used mine for a rock plow last year, dragged two anchors 1/2 mile,
made a furrow a foot and half deep in the rock bottom (I wasn't on board
at the time). Got towed of the way I went in, hauled 3 months later to
find some of the paint scratched of.

Those CS's are damn tough boats!

Cheers
Marty

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I almost bought one out here... sure seem well-built.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:24:11 -0400, Martin Baxter said:

Those CS's are damn tough boats!

You have a CS, Marty?

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Dave wrote:

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:24:11 -0400, Martin Baxter said:

Those CS's are damn tough boats!

You have a CS, Marty?

Same one you have, I'm replacing the Yanmar with a Volvo-Penta D1-13
this winter.

Cheers
Marty

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Martin Baxter wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:24:11 -0400, Martin Baxter said:

Those CS's are damn tough boats!
You have a CS, Marty?

Same one you have, I'm replacing the Yanmar with a Volvo-Penta D1-13
this winter.

Cheers
Marty

Out of the frying pan?

I've never had a marine Volvo, but it seems that all I hear about them
is negative, especially when it comes to parts.

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Dave wrote:

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:50:20 -0400, Martin Baxter said:

Same one you have

What has your experience been with the iron keel?


Well as I told you I took a bunch of paint of last year. This year I
brushed the rusty bits with a wire brush and used the same Interlux XXX
on it that I used on the rest of the bottom. I hauled on Sunday and
there are a few rust blister on the bottom 4 inches or so, nothing
serious, I'll probably follow the same procedure next spring. It would
take a long time to rust through that keel, at the thinnest point it's
what, about 8" thick?

Cheers
Marty

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"Jeff" wrote in message

I've never had a marine Volvo, but it seems that all I hear about them is
negative, especially when it comes to parts.

I found that attempting to get parts for both my vovlo engines was a unique
experience. Rarely does one get overcharged, informed all parts are
back-ordered with 2 month wait lists, get billed for global air freight
shipping to the local retail outlet... find out they had one in stock all
along.... all the while being talked down to and subjected to rude remarks.
The extra touch to make you feel like you are putting them out was amazing.
Positive point about volvos... their extra weight makes for an excellent
mooring block.

Funny story... my marine mechanic phoned the local volvo dealer. It was an
extra $200 and a week delay to have a part shipped. He drove down to pick
up it up.[a fuel pump - $4800.00] and ended up punching out the parts guy.
ha Ha ha.... ask me again why I'm so delighted with my Yanmar 3GM.

CM-

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Capt.Mooron wrote:


Funny story... my marine mechanic phoned the local volvo dealer. It was an
extra $200 and a week delay to have a part shipped. He drove down to pick
up it up.[a fuel pump - $4800.00] and ended up punching out the parts guy.
ha Ha ha.... ask me again why I'm so delighted with my Yanmar 3GM.

CM-


What the heck kind of gold plated fuel pump are you installing??? We
just put a new one in ours and it cost $250.00!!!!! With shipping! And
installation!!!!

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"katy" wrote in message

What the heck kind of gold plated fuel pump are you installing??? We just
put a new one in ours and it cost $250.00!!!!! With shipping! And
installation!!!!

That's what I was trying to fiqure out as well. I ended up buying a
reconditioned one for $2600. Volvo... go figure.

CM-

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

What the heck kind of gold plated fuel pump are you installing??? We just
put a new one in ours and it cost $250.00!!!!! With shipping! And
installation!!!!

That's what I was trying to fiqure out as well. I ended up buying a
reconditioned one for $2600. Volvo... go figure.

CM-


Maybe you should have come down here for the part....sounds like they
shipped air jet from Sweden....

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:24:11 -0400, Martin Baxter
said:

Those CS's are damn tough boats!

You have a CS, Marty?

Same one you have, I'm replacing the Yanmar with a
Volvo-Penta D1-13
this winter.


What's wrong with the Yanmar?

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"Scotty" wrote in message news

What's wrong with the Yanmar?

Marty is a masochist.....

CM-

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Scotty wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:24:11 -0400, Martin Baxter
said:

Those CS's are damn tough boats!

You have a CS, Marty?

Same one you have, I'm replacing the Yanmar with a
Volvo-Penta D1-13
this winter.

What's wrong with the Yanmar?

What's not wrong? Cylinder is pear shaped, piston is pear shaped, rings
gone, crank bearings gone, crank scored, cam bearings shot, cam shot,
valve stem guides shot, valve seats shot, valve faces shot, injector
pump shot, injectors shot, transmission is totally 'poooned.... $6500 in
parts alone, so I said "****-it, let's get something else". It took 3
months just to find sources for all the parts. The motor's thirty years
old and getting parts for it is next to impossible. Why spend over seven
grand to fix an old motor when I can get a new, more powerful,
guarenteed for 4 years lump? What happens if I fix it and 2 years from
now something else breaks and I can't find a replacement part?

As for Vovlo horror stories, I've heard and equal amount of the same for
every other manufacturer.

The six most expensive letters in the English alphabet? 1)M 2)A 3)R 4)I
5)N 6)E

Cheers
Marty
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...

As for Vovlo horror stories, I've heard and equal amount of the same for
every other manufacturer.

In all sincerity, Marty, I haven't. I first became aware of Volvo's parts
issues in an article in Practical Sailor, circa the late 80s. Since that
time I've heard similar issues of high parts prices, poor customer service,
unavailability of parts, etc. from persons who've owned Volvos and some
who've had them overhauled. I've yet to hear of the same sorts of stories
from Yanmar, Westerbeke, Universal, Nanni, or Perkins owners, although I'm
sure there are *some* such issues with each of them. So far, in my
experience, Volvo holds the record for parts and service problems by a wide
margin, which is one reason I'm reluctant to buy a boat with a Volvo, either
conventional drive or Saildrive.

Max

Max

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Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" baxter-m@ I've yet to hear of the same sorts of stories
from Yanmar, Westerbeke, Universal, Nanni, or Perkins owners, although I'm
sure there are *some* such issues with each of them. So far, in my
experience, Volvo holds the record for parts and service problems by a wide
margin, which is one reason I'm reluctant to buy a boat with a Volvo, either
conventional drive or Saildrive.


Well you can say you've heard one such story about Yanmars now. ;-) I'll
let you know if I have any parts issues. The guy I'm dealing with used
to be the Yanmar dealer, but he had supply issues with Yanmar and
switched. Perhaps Yanmar support in the US is superior to what it is in
my area? Time will tell.

Thanks for the input though.

Cheers
Marty