Scout wrote:
Ahhh . . . so I have this VHF radio with an antenna high atop my mast.
Can I tap into that antenna for a TV?
Seems like it should work.
Scout

I use a special splitter to share the FM with the VHF radio. IIRC, it
has the logic to shut down the FM side when the VHF side is
transmitting. Or maybe that was the excuse to get me to pay $15 for it.

For the TV we use the larger Shakespeare "disc" style omni directional
antennae that comes with an amplifier. It does a good job of pulling
in stations from 50 miles away. It is, however, 8 year old technology.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scout wrote:
Ahhh . . . so I have this VHF radio with an antenna high atop my mast.
Can I tap into that antenna for a TV?
Seems like it should work.
Scout

I use a special splitter to share the FM with the VHF radio. IIRC, it has
the logic to shut down the FM side when the VHF side is transmitting. Or
maybe that was the excuse to get me to pay $15 for it.

For the TV we use the larger Shakespeare "disc" style omni directional
antennae that comes with an amplifier. It does a good job of pulling in
stations from 50 miles away. It is, however, 8 year old technology.

Thanks Jeff,
where did you mount the disc or is it inside the cabin?

Scout wrote:

For the TV we use the larger Shakespeare "disc" style omni directional
antennae that comes with an amplifier. It does a good job of pulling in
stations from 50 miles away. It is, however, 8 year old technology.

Thanks Jeff,
where did you mount the disc or is it inside the cabin?


Its on the mast, under the radar.
http://www.sv-loki.com/Summer_06/Misery_Cove-1.jpg

At this frequency, height is important, so being able to elevate it
some is important.

On our previous boat, we used the smaller version, but rather than
attach it to the mast, we laid it out on the boom, as high as we could
get. The results were mixed. A Practical Sailer review claimed the
21 inch disk was much better than the 14, but again, this is old info.

Much depends on your needs and location, so the first thing to try is
some very cheap solution, such as the wire "T" that comes with FM
radios.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Scout wrote:

For the TV we use the larger Shakespeare "disc" style omni directional
antennae that comes with an amplifier. It does a good job of pulling in
stations from 50 miles away. It is, however, 8 year old technology.

Thanks Jeff,
where did you mount the disc or is it inside the cabin?


Its on the mast, under the radar.
http://www.sv-loki.com/Summer_06/Misery_Cove-1.jpg

At this frequency, height is important, so being able to elevate it some
is important.

On our previous boat, we used the smaller version, but rather than attach
it to the mast, we laid it out on the boom, as high as we could get. The
results were mixed. A Practical Sailer review claimed the 21 inch disk
was much better than the 14, but again, this is old info.

Much depends on your needs and location, so the first thing to try is some
very cheap solution, such as the wire "T" that comes with FM radios.

wow, nice boat Jeff!
Scout

Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly 1/2
mile.

Gilligan wrote:
Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly 1/2
mile.


There was no general recall, and the problem only affect several
hundred units, none of them were omnidirectional.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly 1/2
mile.


There was no general recall, and the problem only affect several hundred
units, none of them were omnidirectional.

Marine Safety, Security and Environmental Protection
November 15, 2002
Washington, DC


It has come to the attention of the U.S. Coast Guard and Federal
Communications Commission that certain consumer electronics-grade active
VHF/UHF marine television antennas are causing operational degradation in
the performance of Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers. This
interference may be realized as a display of inaccurate position information
or a complete loss of GPS receiver acquisition and tracking ability.

The interference is not limited to the GPS equipment onboard the vessel with
the installed active marine television antennae. There have been reports of
interference occurring on other vessels and installations operating up to
2000 feet away from vessels using such antennas.

In one particular case, the interference caused the position of the vessel
as displayed on the electronic chart to move erratically and dramatically
often across large expanses of land. As can be expected, various data
displays indicated erroneous information such as excessive speeds. In these
instances the problem would occasionally correct itself while at other times
required resetting the system. To the vessel's crew these annoyances were
frustrating and caused concerns that perhaps less obvious inaccuracies were
occurring. Ultimately this affected their confidence in the performance of
the GPS and Electronic Chart Display and Information System.

If you are experiencing recurring outages or degradation of your GPS
receiver operation you should perform an on-off test of your TV antenna. If
turning off the power to the antenna results in improvement in the GPS
receiver performance, the antenna may be the source of interference in the
GPS band. In that case, you should contact the manufacturer of the antenna
and identify the symptoms.

If the test is not positive and the GPS interference persists, contact the
watchstander at the Coast Guard Navigation Information Service at
/ 703.313.5900.

Antennae models identified during investigations of GPS interference.

TDP (Tandy Distribution Products) Electronics - MINI STATE Electronic
Amplified UHF/VHF TV Antenna - Models 5MS740, 5MS750, 5MS921

Radio Shack Corporation - Long Range Amplified Omni Directional TV Antenna -
Model 15-1624

Shakespeare Corporation - SeaWatch - Models 2030, 2050

This material is provided for informational purpose only and does not
relieve any existing domestic or international safety, operational or
material requirement.

RELEASED BY - Office of Investigations and Analysis, USCG Headquarters.
Questions or comments related to this information or its delivery may be
addressed to Mr. Ken Olsen at 202.267.1417 or .



Also at:
http://www.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/St...tM_01-2006.pdf

Shakespeare 2030:

http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an.../tv/2030-g.htm

Described and marketed by manufacturer as omnidirectional. It's on the
recall list.

You're becoming the master of obsolete info - the report you cite
turned out to be erroneous. Shakespeare ended up recalling 400 units
that were built during one month for each style.
http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an...tvantennas.htm

Here's the updated safety alert that specifies only one date code for
each of the Shakespeare units:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/docs/11-02.htm


Gilligan wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly 1/2
mile.

There was no general recall, and the problem only affect several hundred
units, none of them were omnidirectional.

Marine Safety, Security and Environmental Protection
November 15, 2002
Washington, DC


It has come to the attention of the U.S. Coast Guard and Federal
Communications Commission that certain consumer electronics-grade active
VHF/UHF marine television antennas are causing operational degradation in
the performance of Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers. This
interference may be realized as a display of inaccurate position information
or a complete loss of GPS receiver acquisition and tracking ability.

The interference is not limited to the GPS equipment onboard the vessel with
the installed active marine television antennae. There have been reports of
interference occurring on other vessels and installations operating up to
2000 feet away from vessels using such antennas.

In one particular case, the interference caused the position of the vessel
as displayed on the electronic chart to move erratically and dramatically
often across large expanses of land. As can be expected, various data
displays indicated erroneous information such as excessive speeds. In these
instances the problem would occasionally correct itself while at other times
required resetting the system. To the vessel's crew these annoyances were
frustrating and caused concerns that perhaps less obvious inaccuracies were
occurring. Ultimately this affected their confidence in the performance of
the GPS and Electronic Chart Display and Information System.

If you are experiencing recurring outages or degradation of your GPS
receiver operation you should perform an on-off test of your TV antenna. If
turning off the power to the antenna results in improvement in the GPS
receiver performance, the antenna may be the source of interference in the
GPS band. In that case, you should contact the manufacturer of the antenna
and identify the symptoms.

If the test is not positive and the GPS interference persists, contact the
watchstander at the Coast Guard Navigation Information Service at
/ 703.313.5900.

Antennae models identified during investigations of GPS interference.

TDP (Tandy Distribution Products) Electronics - MINI STATE Electronic
Amplified UHF/VHF TV Antenna - Models 5MS740, 5MS750, 5MS921

Radio Shack Corporation - Long Range Amplified Omni Directional TV Antenna -
Model 15-1624

Shakespeare Corporation - SeaWatch - Models 2030, 2050

This material is provided for informational purpose only and does not
relieve any existing domestic or international safety, operational or
material requirement.

RELEASED BY - Office of Investigations and Analysis, USCG Headquarters.
Questions or comments related to this information or its delivery may be
addressed to Mr. Ken Olsen at 202.267.1417 or .



Also at:
http://www.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/St...tM_01-2006.pdf

Shakespeare 2030:

http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an.../tv/2030-g.htm

Described and marketed by manufacturer as omnidirectional. It's on the
recall list.

My Coast Guard notice to Mariners is from 2006.



"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
You're becoming the master of obsolete info - the report you cite turned
out to be erroneous. Shakespeare ended up recalling 400 units that were
built during one month for each style.
http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an...tvantennas.htm

Here's the updated safety alert that specifies only one date code for each
of the Shakespeare units:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/docs/11-02.htm


Gilligan wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly
1/2 mile.

There was no general recall, and the problem only affect several hundred
units, none of them were omnidirectional.

Marine Safety, Security and Environmental Protection
November 15, 2002
Washington, DC


It has come to the attention of the U.S. Coast Guard and Federal
Communications Commission that certain consumer electronics-grade active
VHF/UHF marine television antennas are causing operational degradation in
the performance of Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers. This
interference may be realized as a display of inaccurate position
information or a complete loss of GPS receiver acquisition and tracking
ability.

The interference is not limited to the GPS equipment onboard the vessel
with the installed active marine television antennae. There have been
reports of interference occurring on other vessels and installations
operating up to 2000 feet away from vessels using such antennas.

In one particular case, the interference caused the position of the
vessel as displayed on the electronic chart to move erratically and
dramatically often across large expanses of land. As can be expected,
various data displays indicated erroneous information such as excessive
speeds. In these instances the problem would occasionally correct itself
while at other times required resetting the system. To the vessel's crew
these annoyances were frustrating and caused concerns that perhaps less
obvious inaccuracies were occurring. Ultimately this affected their
confidence in the performance of the GPS and Electronic Chart Display and
Information System.

If you are experiencing recurring outages or degradation of your GPS
receiver operation you should perform an on-off test of your TV antenna.
If turning off the power to the antenna results in improvement in the GPS
receiver performance, the antenna may be the source of interference in
the GPS band. In that case, you should contact the manufacturer of the
antenna and identify the symptoms.

If the test is not positive and the GPS interference persists, contact
the watchstander at the Coast Guard Navigation Information Service at
/ 703.313.5900.

Antennae models identified during investigations of GPS interference.

TDP (Tandy Distribution Products) Electronics - MINI STATE Electronic
Amplified UHF/VHF TV Antenna - Models 5MS740, 5MS750, 5MS921

Radio Shack Corporation - Long Range Amplified Omni Directional TV
Antenna - Model 15-1624

Shakespeare Corporation - SeaWatch - Models 2030, 2050

This material is provided for informational purpose only and does not
relieve any existing domestic or international safety, operational or
material requirement.

RELEASED BY - Office of Investigations and Analysis, USCG Headquarters.
Questions or comments related to this information or its delivery may be
addressed to Mr. Ken Olsen at 202.267.1417 or .



Also at:
http://www.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/St...tM_01-2006.pdf

Shakespeare 2030:

http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an.../tv/2030-g.htm

Described and marketed by manufacturer as omnidirectional. It's on the
recall list.

Gilligan wrote:
My Coast Guard notice to Mariners is from 2006.

Your Notice supports the more recent claim that it was only two
models, with one month's run for each, for a total of only 400 units.

You should actually read the stuff you post.

Much ado over nothing.








"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
You're becoming the master of obsolete info - the report you cite turned
out to be erroneous. Shakespeare ended up recalling 400 units that were
built during one month for each style.
http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an...tvantennas.htm

Here's the updated safety alert that specifies only one date code for each
of the Shakespeare units:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/moa/docs/11-02.htm


Gilligan wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Gilligan wrote:
Shakespeare Ampified Omni Marine Antenna recalled:

http://www.zurichmarinespecialty.com...nerboating.pdf

Read about it on page 7. Apparently it wipes out GPS units for nearly
1/2 mile.

There was no general recall, and the problem only affect several hundred
units, none of them were omnidirectional.
Marine Safety, Security and Environmental Protection
November 15, 2002
Washington, DC


It has come to the attention of the U.S. Coast Guard and Federal
Communications Commission that certain consumer electronics-grade active
VHF/UHF marine television antennas are causing operational degradation in
the performance of Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers. This
interference may be realized as a display of inaccurate position
information or a complete loss of GPS receiver acquisition and tracking
ability.

The interference is not limited to the GPS equipment onboard the vessel
with the installed active marine television antennae. There have been
reports of interference occurring on other vessels and installations
operating up to 2000 feet away from vessels using such antennas.

In one particular case, the interference caused the position of the
vessel as displayed on the electronic chart to move erratically and
dramatically often across large expanses of land. As can be expected,
various data displays indicated erroneous information such as excessive
speeds. In these instances the problem would occasionally correct itself
while at other times required resetting the system. To the vessel's crew
these annoyances were frustrating and caused concerns that perhaps less
obvious inaccuracies were occurring. Ultimately this affected their
confidence in the performance of the GPS and Electronic Chart Display and
Information System.

If you are experiencing recurring outages or degradation of your GPS
receiver operation you should perform an on-off test of your TV antenna.
If turning off the power to the antenna results in improvement in the GPS
receiver performance, the antenna may be the source of interference in
the GPS band. In that case, you should contact the manufacturer of the
antenna and identify the symptoms.

If the test is not positive and the GPS interference persists, contact
the watchstander at the Coast Guard Navigation Information Service at
/ 703.313.5900.

Antennae models identified during investigations of GPS interference.

TDP (Tandy Distribution Products) Electronics - MINI STATE Electronic
Amplified UHF/VHF TV Antenna - Models 5MS740, 5MS750, 5MS921

Radio Shack Corporation - Long Range Amplified Omni Directional TV
Antenna - Model 15-1624

Shakespeare Corporation - SeaWatch - Models 2030, 2050

This material is provided for informational purpose only and does not
relieve any existing domestic or international safety, operational or
material requirement.

RELEASED BY - Office of Investigations and Analysis, USCG Headquarters.
Questions or comments related to this information or its delivery may be
addressed to Mr. Ken Olsen at 202.267.1417 or .



Also at:
http://www.nga.mil/MSISiteContent/St...tM_01-2006.pdf

Shakespeare 2030:

http://www.shakespeare-marine.com/an.../tv/2030-g.htm

Described and marketed by manufacturer as omnidirectional. It's on the
recall list.