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Oh Yeah... gotta watch out for those "IT" guys....
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My post was about people who 'feel' rather than first learn
facts. For some reason, Red Cloud has decided to use himself
as a perfect example. He immediately 'feels' I was discussing
dielectrics. Of course I was not. But then he knows because
he 'feels' that is what I must have been thinking. So why
does Red Cloud do this? Just another name and reason to
insult others. His name?

Red Cloud® posted using numerous names including
, Ekal Bnek, MaximumSmoke, and
. One poster even speculates that
BinaryBill also posted using the name Ken Blake. He has been
accused by Sirius, VWWall, Thor, etc of using pseudo names.
In a discussion entitled "Computer Fire Starts Flame War" in
alt.computer, others bluntly ask him (whoever he really is)
what his alter egos would think. Previous posts by BinaryBill
- now Red Cloud® - of insults are cited in that alt.computer
discussion at:
http://tinyurl.com/bjk8e ============

He even claimed to work with Grace Hopper on the original
computer called Eniac in the 1940s. Therefore he must know
something... about twisting the truth.

You forgot an important piece of research, dopey. W_tom is a well known
usenet
kook.

Here's what a fellow who posts in a lot of computer groups has to say
about BB:

From ???@??? Fri May 04 22:55:14 2001
Douglas A. Shrader wrote:

Yeah the cheap overclocking trick.

Nitwit

Heheee. I like your style BB :-))

BB knows computers way better than many of us. He however, doesn't have
the current insight that many of us do who have to go onsite to fix
day-to-day odd problems as he now sits behind a desk as an
administrator. He doesn't have to drive his car an hour to fix the
****-ups the modern AOL user does to their system nor sit in a clients
****ty apartment or cow **** smelling office on a Friday night trying to
fix a bargain brand so we can pay our mortgage that month.

He gets a regular paycheck from corporate. I only get paid by the job if
I'm successful. Different situations require different tactics to solve
a computer problem. That it where like all of my past technical
arguments and dis-agreements with BB have been based on. However, I
generally have learned also NOT to argue like I want to with BB as he
has 50 more years commanding the English language than I have.

However, his arguments have enlightend me and have caused me to change
the way I address a computer problem. I do understand that you don't
have to be an active field tech to generally address field tech
problems.

BB also reads my posts in every group I'm in and has no qualms whatsover
about responding with an _accruate_ correction to my sometimes "off the
cuff" advice. I couldn't afford to pay for that kind of QA/QC and I
appreciate it.

Perhaps that is yet another reason why we continue to respect each
other. Aside from the fact that both of us believe shooting flaming
lighter fluid tennis balls from a homemade Coke Can cannon at each
others garage is a nice idea of a geek olimpic sporting event.

Anyway, I been wanting to say this for a while.

And here's the reactions when I "died":

Book of Condolence

Name: Peter C. Forrest
[Edited: October 3rd]
Comments

I'm so sorry to hear of Bill's passing. My sincerest condolences to you
and your
family. Bill was a much-valued and much-respected contributor to
news:alt.windows98 and news:alt.computer - and I, for one, will miss his
posts,
dearly. I regarded him as a friend although we never really met. I only
knew him
through his Usenet posts, both to myself and others. But I rarely missed
an
opportunity to read his posts and am forever grateful for his support and
his
(apparently) endless supply of generosity.

To me, Bill was a highly-intelligent individual, never short of a cutting
or
witty remark, but always willing to listen and learn, even from those
without
his vast breadth of experience. Rare qualities indeed, he earned a great
deal of
respect amongst the community. The groups will be very much dulled by his
passing, but he'll be remembered fondly by all who benefited from his
wisdom.

I am honoured and privileged to have been his friend. Rest in peace, Bill.

Eric, please get in touch so that I may "officially" deliver these
messages to
your family, and to pass on any messages that you may have in return.

Sincerely,

Peter C. Forrest

Name: David Cleghorn
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 05:31
Comments

I always enjoyed reading Binary Bill's posts and from day one of my
participation on alt.windows98, I regarded him as one of the gurus. I
would
generally follow a thread he was involved in as I found his posts to be
informative, concise, intelligent, and often very funny.

I am genuinely saddened by this news and will miss seeing Bill's name in
anticipation of reading the colourful and helpful posts I looked out for
and
learned from.

Sincerely, D Cleghorn

Name: Brent Mallon
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 06:55
Comments

In this medium of faceless people he was indeed a character

Name: Steelhead
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 07:17
Comments

May Bill rest in Peace! Will miss his posts in the newsgroups. Very nice
Eulogy.
Bill

Name: Michael-NC
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 08:11
Comments

You have my sympathies for your loss. Binary Bill must have been a
blessing for
not only his family but the many people he helped. May we all endeavor to
help
others as he did. He will live on in the thoughts of those who loved him
and
those who know him. My thought is that Bill was part of the "Greatest
Generation" who helped deliver the America that we all love and cherish
today.
His legacy is our freedom.

Sincerely,

Michael-NC

Name: Rich
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 08:46
Comments

I deeply regret your loss. I know Binary Bill was a blessing to you much
more
than he was to us on alt.windows98. He was a great help to us and we will
miss
him very much.

Sincerely Rich

Name: Weyoun the dancing Borg
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 08:46
Comments

I am very sorry to hear of your loss. I may not have always got on with
him, but
we weren't at each other's throats (just the occasional difference of
opinion).
Our newsgroups will no longer be the same, as I am sure, your life will be
as
well. All I can say is that he was a good man, form what I knew of him,
and may
he rest in peace.

Name: Richard Benfield
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 08:53
Comments

As one who recently lost a father, I know how his children feel. My
sincere
sympathies go out to his whole family at this sad time. Shocked and
saddened by
the news, we have lost a valuable and witty contributor to this group.

Richard :(

Name: Ken Blake
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 10:31
Comments

I'm very sad to hear of this. Binary Bill and I have had our share of
spats, but
in spite of them I always had great respect for him, both as a man and as
a
source of knowledge and help for others. He will be a loss to the
newsgroups as
well as to those who knew him personally.

Name: Plato
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 12:47
Comments

I'm proud that I had the chance to know and talk with BB.

It feels like losing a close member of your family.

Name: Pete Burgess
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 13:03
Comments

Bill's passing will leave a gap in the NG that will not be filled. Rest in
peace.

Name: Thor
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 13:04
Comments

My heart goes out to your family in this time of loss. BinaryBill was a
greatly
respected, and valued member of our little online "family" in
alt.computer, as
I'm sure he was in many other groups. I have a deep respect and admiration
for
what he accomplished in his life, and the contributions he has made to the
country, and to the field of computing. I am touched that he mentioned
many of
us in his "offline life". His presence will be sorely missed in
alt.computer,
but I'm sure he will continue to be there in spirit. Your family has my
heartfelt condolences.

-Thor

Name: Richard Dakin
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 14:13
Comments

I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. I always made a point in reading
Bills
contributions, which I found both entertaining & educating.

I shall miss him.

Name: Dave Cowden-bub
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 14:57
Comments

I always enjoyed reading through the newsgroup, and coming across BB's
spirited
remarks. I shall miss his posts, and I send my condolences to all his
family.

Name: Kevin Liversage
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 15:44
Comments

I didn't really have any correspondence with your Father, though I often
would
enjoy reading his postings on the alt.computer Newsgroup.

May he rest in peace.

Kev

Name: George Mooth
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 18:37
Comments

I am very sorry to hear about your dad's passing. I didn't know him
personally,
but his posts in the alt.window.98 conference were always respectful and
informative. Though I skipped many posts I always read what Bill had to
say. My
heart-felt condolences go out to his family. You were fortunate to have
him for
all these years.

May God have mercy on his soul.

Name: Sirius
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 19:20
Comments

What a shock. Just glad I said sorry to him after our recent disagreement
and
that he accepted my apology. Had no idea he was so old till, I think,
Plato
mentioned age. My sympathy and condolences to those who loved him.

Goodbye and Best Wishes BB

Name: Douglas A. Shrader
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 20:32
Comments

I can't believe it. I am so sorry to learn that BB is no longer here. I
never
met him, but I miss His presence here already. My heartfelt condolences to
his
family, know that thanks to his kindness and wisdom the world is a better
place,
and I for one will always remember him. Rest in Peace Binary Bill.

Name: Chris Letizia
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 20:48
Comments

Sorry to hear of Bill's passing. I loved his contributions to our
newsgroup. But
even more loved reading about his much more important contributions to
you, his
family, and charity. Perhaps I will meet him one day after all!!!! Good
thing,
unlike Windows XP, he doesn't have to call anywhere or anyone to activate
Heaven. ( I couldn't help it, Bill would like that) I know this is a
trying time
for you all ( I assume this is going to Bill's family) May God bless and
keep
you. Thanks for sharing Bill with us. He will be very much missed. Chris
(aka
chrisclu)

Name: Herman R Standiford
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 21:33
Comments

We all share your loss. He will be in my prayers. I always read his
comments
along with some of the helpful others in altwin98. Things will not be the
same
for many of us but perhaps He will be giving sound advice at a higher
level now.
may God Bless and receive Him.

Herman

Name: Brad aka Frisbee
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 22:08
Comments

My sincerest condolences for you and your family. this is now a time to
mourn
and pay respect. with recent events it seems we are just a bit more aware
of
such losses, but that never makes it easy.

I was one of those that said enough to give BB a big chunk of bait to get
all
worked up over, but I really hope he enjoyed the stimulating debate. I
have
respect for everyone, but know that he was able to take criticism.

while we do not know Gods decisions, we merely yield to them, and all of
us have
a time when we will be standing in the presence of God, so better now to
seek to
reach out to God to ask Him what it is He wants us to be doing in the
present
moment. we can find good news and comfort in the bible.

Brad aka this computer

Name: pcbutts
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 23:10
Comments

I am so sorry to hear about this loss. My heart and prayers go out to you
and
your family. I learned a lot from his posts and heard a lot about him
before
that.

Take care, pc

Name: DeMoN LaG - Hyper Hands
Date: 01 October, 2001
Time: 23:55
Comments

First, I'm quite shocked to have been mentioned. BB was a great man. He
was
definitely knowledgeable in his field, and I am strapped to think of a
time when
I can remember him ever posting something wrong. I can't believe I'll
never see
another of his posts. His posts were always so great, they were blunt,
head on
statements. Never beating around a bush, just flat out telling it like it
was.
And now he's gone. I believe his presence will be deeply missed among the
Alt.Computer regulars. I feel extremely saddened, but yet honored that BB
considered me a friend enough to talk about me outside of Usenet. I will
deeply
miss BB in the Usenet community. Good bye, old friend.

Name: Fred J. Wilson
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 00:13
Comments

My condolences go out to you and your family. I am not as close to a lot
of the
newsgroup regulars as most of you, but I remember first seeing the post of
"Binary Bill the Sailor". A hard name to forget. I can't remember when any
of
his advice I thought was wrong, and he will be greatly missed. Fred

Name: Robert Schumacher
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 03:08
Comments

I've been out of the alt.windows98 group for a while, but early on in my
lurking
there I noticed Binary Bill. I remember my first impression of him, a very
knowledgeable and "salty" guy. I once asked him about the "sailor" part,
and we
had a talk about his Navy days (I'm in the US Navy myself). Bill was a
great
guy, a spirited debater, and a fountain of knowledge...and from some "OT"
posts
I got the impression he was a great family man and all around good guy. I
offer
my sincerest condolences and in the tradition of the sea I say to Bill
"fair
winds and following seas".

Rest easy, shipmate. You will be missed, but never forgotten.

Name: Bernard - TigerCom
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 09:22
Comments

Whilst generally a lurker to the group I felt compelled to write and offer
my
condolences to the list of many. I can only add that though he will be
missed
his memory will be kept alive by, not only myself but, the many people
that he
has touched. Again my deepest sincere condolences for your loss.

Bernard

Name: Mark W. Brouwer
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 12:07
Comments

Shocked to hear this sad news. Enjoyed how an *oldie* shared his knowledge
with
the youngsters in the alt.windows98 NG. My deepest sympathies to the
family.

Ride with wind, BB.

Name: Yodel
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 13:18
Comments

Well I haven't been around for some time, but I certainly remember with
great
fondness the postings of our friend, BinaryBill. Although he only touched
my
life in one place (alt.computer) I'll always remember him for his honesty
and
his knowledge, both of which were considerable. My condolences go out to
those
who will miss him most.

Respectfully, Nick Maclean, aka Yodel.

Name: shagrock AKA Greg
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 19:36
Comments

Well as mostly a lurker, I never did speak to Binary Bill directly, but I
did
love to read his posts, they gave me a lot of useful information, he will
be
missed.

If anyone can do it, BB will figure out how to post from Heaven.

Name: doS
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 20:48
Comments

I am very sorry to hear about the passing of Bill. I enjoyed his comments
and
replies on Usenet. My deepest regards to the family, he will be missed.

Name: Derek Aitken
Date: 02 October, 2001
Time: 21:52
Comments

Having benefited from BB's knowledge through PCF. I am sorry to hear of
your sad
loss, my thoughts are with you all. regards Dex

Name: Jim Roberts Gambler
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 00:01
Comments

Sorry to hear of your loss. We all enjoyed reading Bill's contributions to
the
newsgroups. In one way or another he made us all better people.

Name: Boomer
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 00:57
Comments

I remember him from Win95 and 98 news group. What a guy he was.

So very helpful with that special pinch of "salt". And some pepper too.

He will be missed. He was a Grand person.

Sending my deepest sympathy to his family and friends.

Name: trout
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 01:23
Comments

I'm sorry to hear of his passing. I didn't have a lot of conversations
with
Bill, and we were usually arguing opposite sides the few times we met. But
he
always struck me as decent, and honest man. A good guy that spoke his
mind, told
the truth, and would never let a friend down. He will be missed. My
condolences
to the family.

Name: Harry Ohrn
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 08:55
Comments

Bill not only shared his knowledge with us but he often 'drew a line in
the
sand'. You knew where he stood. It is people like him that have helped me
to try
and set standards for myself when contributing in newsgroups. We all need
role
models and Bill was one of those, at least for me. Binary Bill was one of
the
Good Guys. And, in a world that desperately needs more good guys, he will
be
surely missed.

Harry O

Name: Iceman from Downunder Australia
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 10:12
Comments

Gosh, time flies ... BB was a well known Usenetic he will definitely be
miss
from all the people who knew him..... Cheers BB I know you have fulfilling
life!

Name: The Old Sourdough
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 15:01
Comments

Sorry to hear of Bill's passing, but he *will* be remembered....

Name: Phisherman
Date: 03 October, 2001
Time: 17:51
Comments

Sorry to hear about Bill. His keen knowledge and respected advice is a
great
loss to alt.windows98. I would love to have his energy and wit at 89! He
lived
through the fast changes of computer science from its infancy. My sincere
blessings and prayers are sent to his family, friends, and all Usenet
buddies.

Phisherman

Name: James Liles
Date: 04 October, 2001
Time: 00:59
Comments

I am sorry to hear that he passed away. He will be missed. 8-(.

Name: Virgil Wall
Date: 04 October, 2001
Time: 13:39
Comments

As an "old timer" myself, I enjoyed BB's take on life. Wish we'd had more
time
to get to know each other! He'll be greatly missed by all of
us...............

Name: Gil
Date: 07 October, 2001
Time: 09:46
Comments

I lurk a lot more than I post. But alt.windows.98 is a group I've spent a
lot of
time in. And I have often read posts by Binary Bill. I will definitely
miss him.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the family.

Name: Neal Pollack
Date: 07 October, 2001
Time: 13:06
Comments

With one thing or another keeping me busier than a one-legged man on a
unicycle,
I haven't been able to spend any time in the newsgroups. Even though I
knew that
Binary Bill was an old timer, hearing about his passing from Doug Schrader
was a
surprise. The depth and breadth of his knowledge and his willingness to
share
made him one of the beacons in cyberspace. We seemed to always come down
on the
same side in many of the spirited OT discussions and his opinions were
always
tempered with the wisdom of time. We had occasion to correspond privately
and he
sent me a picture of himself in full nautical regalia as well as some
links to
archival photos of him and ENIAC at the dawn of he computer age. Recently,
there
has been talk of building a monument to the WWII veterans. I maintain that
this
country, the opportunity and freedom it affords and the technology we
enjoy is a
dynamic and enduring monument to Binary Bill and countless others liike
him.
Rest in peace BB and smooth sailing on your new adventure.

Neal Pollack

Name: Matt Y.
Date: 15 October, 2001
Time: 11:29
Comments

BB will be missed by all those that had the fortune of knowing him. Rest
in
peace, Bill.

Name: Robert Humpleby aka ballscrew
Date: 08 October, 2001
Time: 00:14
Comments

The groups will be a quieter place. Bill added a touch of sense and a
brand of
humor that will be greatly missed.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

CWM