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Bart October 10th 06 04:17 PM

ASA question #119
 

Capt. JG wrote:.

8 or 5? I believe 5 is what signals a danger alarm.


5 or more short blasts is what the rules state.

Rule 34:
When vessels in sight of one another are approaching each
other and from any cause either vessel fails to understand
the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether
sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision,
the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by
giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle.
[Such / This] signal may be supplemented by at least five short
and rapid flashes.

More is better right? Never use a fly swatter if you have
a nuke.


Bart October 10th 06 04:21 PM

ASA question #119
 
I like the bit about anchoring. A very good idea.
That might be the best solution to stop you quickly.

Jeff wrote:

Drop anchor. If the breaker is on (it normally isn't) I can deploy
pretty quickly, but I would only consider this in shallow water. On
the first power of the season (often across from the storage marina to
a slip) I usually have both anchors ready to deploy.



Walt October 10th 06 04:33 PM

ASA question #119
 
Bart wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:.

8 or 5? I believe 5 is what signals a danger alarm.


5 or more short blasts is what the rules state.

Rule 34:
When vessels in sight of one another are approaching each
other and from any cause either vessel fails to understand
the intentions or actions of the other, or is in doubt whether
sufficient action is being taken by the other to avoid collision,
the vessel in doubt shall immediately indicate such doubt by
giving at least five short and rapid blasts on the whistle.
[Such / This] signal may be supplemented by at least five short
and rapid flashes.

More is better right? Never use a fly swatter if you have
a nuke.


Oh, absolutely. Honk your horn like a madman, shoot off all your
flairs, deploy all your lifesaving equipment, and raise the coast guard
on the radio. Far more fun than just anticipating the situation 30
seconds earlier and calmly heading up above the motoring sailboat.

I mean, you've spent all that money on all that safety gear, right?
Well, dammit, use it forcrissakes.

//Walt

Capt. JG October 10th 06 05:48 PM

ASA question #119
 
Someone for sure... could be a combination of assumptions and not paying
attention.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Walt" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:


The best option would be to turn as sharply as possible & go astern of
the sailboat under power, while you still have room to do so. That would
not require gybing. However it would require making a decision *before*
you run out of room, which apparently is not part of your scenario.



Yep. Don't let yourself get into situations like this where you have no
options. The fact that it has gotten as far as it has in JG's scenario
shows somebody isn't paying attention.


//Walt




Capt. JG October 10th 06 05:49 PM

ASA question #119
 
When in doubt, anchor out. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com...
I like the bit about anchoring. A very good idea.
That might be the best solution to stop you quickly.

Jeff wrote:

Drop anchor. If the breaker is on (it normally isn't) I can deploy
pretty quickly, but I would only consider this in shallow water. On
the first power of the season (often across from the storage marina to
a slip) I usually have both anchors ready to deploy.





Capt. Scumbalino October 10th 06 09:03 PM

ASA question #119
 
Capt. JG wrote:

What are your options? What would you do?


Could let the sheets out and try to lose speed. If it has a tiller, could
maybe bang the rudder hard over and use it as a brake. Maybe hail the port
boat and get them to fall away to make room, but there might not be enough
time for that.


--
Capt Scumbalino



Capt. Scumbalino October 10th 06 09:12 PM

ASA question #119
 
Jeff wrote:

Release jib and Pull the main in amidships. Again, it depends on the
exact situation and boat, but this could release enough power to slow
enough to avoid the problem.


Would pulling the main in reduce speed more effectively than letting it
right out to flog?


--
Capt Scumbalino



Jeff October 10th 06 09:50 PM

ASA question #119
 
Capt. Scumbalino wrote:
Jeff wrote:

Release jib and Pull the main in amidships. Again, it depends on the
exact situation and boat, but this could release enough power to slow
enough to avoid the problem.


Would pulling the main in reduce speed more effectively than letting it
right out to flog?


The original post specified broad reach - so it would depend on just
how broad, and how far does the rigging permit the boom to go. Like I
said, it depends on the boat and the exact situation.

Capt. JG October 10th 06 10:32 PM

ASA question #119
 
Letting the main out from a broad reach wouldn't get you much. Sheeting in
might be possible, but it might also cause the boat to head up (in this case
into the boat under power) if the wind is up. The only way letting it out
would work is if you're on a very shallow BR.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. Scumbalino wrote:
Jeff wrote:

Release jib and Pull the main in amidships. Again, it depends on the
exact situation and boat, but this could release enough power to slow
enough to avoid the problem.


Would pulling the main in reduce speed more effectively than letting it
right out to flog?


The original post specified broad reach - so it would depend on just how
broad, and how far does the rigging permit the boom to go. Like I said,
it depends on the boat and the exact situation.




Seahag October 11th 06 01:57 AM

ASA question #119
 
Throw a windsurfer in there and you got something!

Seahag

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
3 pts for the best answer. Fewer points for second, third
best.

You're sailing a 36' relatively modern sailboat sailing on
a broad reach, starboard tack. To port is another sailboat
also sailing on a starboard tack, approaching on a beam
reach. Additionally, to starboard of your vessel is a
sailboat under power. The pecking order is obviously,
leward over windward, sail over power. Unfortunately, the
sailboat under power is not giving way. You signal several
times using various methods available, but they're
distracted, don't respond, perhaps don't know what to do.
You can't turn to starboard, because that would be
directly into the sailboat under power. You can't jibe,
because that would be directly into the approaching
sailboat on the port. Time is rapidly running out to avoid
a collision, which you're required to do.

What are your options? What would you do?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com







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