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Capt. Rob October 9th 06 07:24 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Well, I paid my money and I took my chances....ordered a main and genoa
for Heart of Gold an hour ago.
Rather than get everyone worked up, I'll wait until I have them hoisted
(not long to wait) and post pics of them. Yes, they did cost more than
Scotty's boat. Yes, they are less gay than Ganzy. And yes, they will
allow VMG's of 6.3 knots at 37%.

Pics coming soon!


RB
35s5
NY


Gilligan October 9th 06 07:58 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Good for you!

Now your boat will be superfast!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, I paid my money and I took my chances....ordered a main and genoa
for Heart of Gold an hour ago.
Rather than get everyone worked up, I'll wait until I have them hoisted
(not long to wait) and post pics of them. Yes, they did cost more than
Scotty's boat. Yes, they are less gay than Ganzy. And yes, they will
allow VMG's of 6.3 knots at 37%.

Pics coming soon!


RB
35s5
NY




Capt. JG October 9th 06 09:29 PM

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But, he'll still be the same vile little troll.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..
Good for you!

Now your boat will be superfast!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, I paid my money and I took my chances....ordered a main and genoa
for Heart of Gold an hour ago.
Rather than get everyone worked up, I'll wait until I have them hoisted
(not long to wait) and post pics of them. Yes, they did cost more than
Scotty's boat. Yes, they are less gay than Ganzy. And yes, they will
allow VMG's of 6.3 knots at 37%.

Pics coming soon!


RB
35s5
NY






Gilligan October 9th 06 10:05 PM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
But, he'll still be the same vile little troll.


The only reason his trolls work is because you let him get to you. If you
simply agree with whatever he says, you disarm him. Do you see anyone
calling me gay? No, because if they did I would offer them a big wet
smootchie and a good spanking with a big rubber paddle. They run when they
hear that. I can't be trolled about my boat because I don't have one. No
one will ridicule my 350lb wife who has incurable acne on her back and hairy
nipples (five of them!).
This place is like a pool of sharks. Once they sense weakness, you are
toast. So what if someone says you are gay. It's effortless to just agree
with them and move on. The people who know you in real life know you aren't
gay and they know you are a kind, caring person.
RB comes across as a big monstrous troll but he's really not. If you look at
all the dirt everyone has thrown on him, he has never really struck back.
Yes, he'll troll you and say a few bad things but if you ignore him he'll go
elsewhere. In that light, he is a very generous person. If you really wanted
to get him, go sailing with him. Wait until you are a few miles offshore
then go into the cabin, strip down to your speedos and slap your buttcheeks
real loud. Walk out to the cockpit with two jars of Mayonaise (Hellman's -
you're east of the Mississippi) and slap the cheeks some more. Ask him if
it's time now as you rub mayonaise all over yourself while wearing swim
goggles. It really works, gets them everytime. (You can explain later that
the mayonaise was to be used as Channel Grease).




Jeff October 9th 06 10:31 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Thanks for telling it like it is.

Capt. Rob wrote:
Well, I paid my wife's money and I took my chances....ordered a main and
genoa for Hearse of Gold an hour ago.
Rather than get everyone worked up, I'll wait until I have them hoisted
(not long to wait) and post pics of them. Yes, they did cost more than
than any other, so they must be good. Yes, I'm more gay than
Ganzy. And yes, they will allow VMG's of 6.3 knots at 37%. I don't
know what that means, but the salesman said it, so it must be true.

Pics coming soon!


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. JG October 9th 06 11:20 PM

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Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him, you're
one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.

Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less what
goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this fiction into
the real world. This has happened on occasion, unfortunately.

Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I don't
care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At one point,
he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way. This changed a few
years ago, so something must have changed dramatically in his life... for
the worse I'm sure.

In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change, and
I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the people
are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better. Clearly, some
people either can't or won't change. The former have mental problems and
need help. There are a couple of people like that... no need to name names.
The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a lot better. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
But, he'll still be the same vile little troll.


The only reason his trolls work is because you let him get to you. If you
simply agree with whatever he says, you disarm him. Do you see anyone
calling me gay? No, because if they did I would offer them a big wet
smootchie and a good spanking with a big rubber paddle. They run when they
hear that. I can't be trolled about my boat because I don't have one. No
one will ridicule my 350lb wife who has incurable acne on her back and
hairy nipples (five of them!).
This place is like a pool of sharks. Once they sense weakness, you are
toast. So what if someone says you are gay. It's effortless to just agree
with them and move on. The people who know you in real life know you
aren't gay and they know you are a kind, caring person.
RB comes across as a big monstrous troll but he's really not. If you look
at all the dirt everyone has thrown on him, he has never really struck
back. Yes, he'll troll you and say a few bad things but if you ignore him
he'll go elsewhere. In that light, he is a very generous person. If you
really wanted to get him, go sailing with him. Wait until you are a few
miles offshore then go into the cabin, strip down to your speedos and slap
your buttcheeks real loud. Walk out to the cockpit with two jars of
Mayonaise (Hellman's - you're east of the Mississippi) and slap the cheeks
some more. Ask him if it's time now as you rub mayonaise all over yourself
while wearing swim goggles. It really works, gets them everytime. (You can
explain later that the mayonaise was to be used as Channel Grease).






Gilligan October 10th 06 12:10 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him,
you're one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.


I think he is entertaining. Sometimes a bit over the top, sometimes cruel. I
don't respond to him all the time. I have a good respect for his trolling
ability, insight into psychology and the guy is no dummy. He is also very
resourceful and works diligently for things he wants.



Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less
what goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this
fiction into the real world. This has happened on occasion, unfortunately.


Sharks.


Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I don't
care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At one point,
he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way. This changed a
few years ago, so something must have changed dramatically in his life...
for the worse I'm sure.


He does add value besides the entertainment. I value his opinions on just
about anything. I don't always agree. He can save someone a lot of money and
headache. I'm following his advice on cameras and buying a Nikon. He can be
very helpful.


In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change,
and I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the
people are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better.
Clearly, some people either can't or won't change. The former have mental
problems and need help. There are a couple of people like that... no need
to name names. The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a lot better.
:-)


You did change for the better by practicing amazing restraint. Just don't
show you get irritated and they will leave you alone. You have the potential
to some excellent trolling if you desire. You could even be trolling now by
pretending they get to you, who knows?

How did this weekend go? Did you see the Blue Angels?




Thom Stewart October 10th 06 12:49 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Nutsy,

I read all your stupid BS along with your purchase. It seems to me, I
remember you boasting about the wonderful condition of the sails on the
"Benny" at the time of purchase. Also you posts of all the boats on your
end of the 'Sound' that you 'Cleaned their Clock'

Tell us Nutsy, Why in the first season of sailing are you buying new
sais?

???Do believed you caught yourself in your own Lies once again. Still
in top form for slipping on your own S--T!

Go ahead; I've got a good grip on my chair. Firer Away with another dumb
rebuttal. I'm ready:^)

TS or better known as Beached Bum


katy October 10th 06 12:58 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Gilligan wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him,
you're one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.


I think he is entertaining. Sometimes a bit over the top, sometimes cruel. I
don't respond to him all the time. I have a good respect for his trolling
ability, insight into psychology and the guy is no dummy. He is also very
resourceful and works diligently for things he wants.


Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less
what goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this
fiction into the real world. This has happened on occasion, unfortunately.


Sharks.

Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I don't
care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At one point,
he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way. This changed a
few years ago, so something must have changed dramatically in his life...
for the worse I'm sure.


He does add value besides the entertainment. I value his opinions on just
about anything. I don't always agree. He can save someone a lot of money and
headache. I'm following his advice on cameras and buying a Nikon. He can be
very helpful.

In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change,
and I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the
people are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better.
Clearly, some people either can't or won't change. The former have mental
problems and need help. There are a couple of people like that... no need
to name names. The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a lot better.
:-)


You did change for the better by practicing amazing restraint. Just don't
show you get irritated and they will leave you alone. You have the potential
to some excellent trolling if you desire. You could even be trolling now by
pretending they get to you, who knows?

How did this weekend go? Did you see the Blue Angels?



I saw white angels this weekend....

Thom Stewart October 10th 06 01:01 AM

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Nutsy,
VMG's of 6.3 knots at 37%

Just what kind of Dumb **** statement is that! 37% of What?

By the way? How are you feeling?

Ol Thom / BB


Gilligan October 10th 06 01:02 AM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him,
you're one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.


I think he is entertaining. Sometimes a bit over the top, sometimes
cruel. I don't respond to him all the time. I have a good respect for his
trolling ability, insight into psychology and the guy is no dummy. He is
also very resourceful and works diligently for things he wants.


Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less
what goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this
fiction into the real world. This has happened on occasion,
unfortunately.


Sharks.

Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I
don't care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At
one point, he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way.
This changed a few years ago, so something must have changed
dramatically in his life... for the worse I'm sure.


He does add value besides the entertainment. I value his opinions on just
about anything. I don't always agree. He can save someone a lot of money
and headache. I'm following his advice on cameras and buying a Nikon. He
can be very helpful.

In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change,
and I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the
people are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better.
Clearly, some people either can't or won't change. The former have
mental problems and need help. There are a couple of people like that...
no need to name names. The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a
lot better. :-)


You did change for the better by practicing amazing restraint. Just don't
show you get irritated and they will leave you alone. You have the
potential to some excellent trolling if you desire. You could even be
trolling now by pretending they get to you, who knows?

How did this weekend go? Did you see the Blue Angels?



I saw white angels this weekend....


Sure they weren't albino flying monkeys?



Gilligan October 10th 06 01:03 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

I read all your stupid BS along with your purchase. It seems to me, I
remember you boasting about the wonderful condition of the sails on the
"Benny" at the time of purchase. Also you posts of all the boats on your
end of the 'Sound' that you 'Cleaned their Clock'

Tell us Nutsy, Why in the first season of sailing are you buying new
sais?

???Do believed you caught yourself in your own Lies once again. Still
in top form for slipping on your own S--T!

Go ahead; I've got a good grip on my chair. Firer Away with another dumb
rebuttal. I'm ready:^)

TS or better known as Beached Bum


Good detective work there Thom. Book'em Dano!



katy October 10th 06 01:03 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Thom Stewart wrote:
Nutsy,

I read all your stupid BS along with your purchase. It seems to me, I
remember you boasting about the wonderful condition of the sails on the
"Benny" at the time of purchase. Also you posts of all the boats on your
end of the 'Sound' that you 'Cleaned their Clock'

Tell us Nutsy, Why in the first season of sailing are you buying new
sais?

???Do believed you caught yourself in your own Lies once again. Still
in top form for slipping on your own S--T!

Go ahead; I've got a good grip on my chair. Firer Away with another dumb
rebuttal. I'm ready:^)

TS or better known as Beached Bum

Ya know...to be culpable for lying you have to make a conscious decision
to lie...seeing that BS has no conscience to be conscious of, he cannot
lie.

Capt. JG October 10th 06 01:08 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
It's only entertaining when he's showing off his ignorance about sailing.
It's not entertaining when he's bragging about whatever. He's no dummy for
sure, but he's not a grownup either. He's a known liar and a thief.

And, you're wrong about "them leaving me alone" if I show restraint. That's
not going to happen, because there are underlying psychological problems
with "them." Yeah, I'm trolling... whatever.

Blue Angels were fantastic as usual. I'll have some pictures uploaded as
soon as work gives me a break.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him,
you're one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.


I think he is entertaining. Sometimes a bit over the top, sometimes cruel.
I don't respond to him all the time. I have a good respect for his
trolling ability, insight into psychology and the guy is no dummy. He is
also very resourceful and works diligently for things he wants.



Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less
what goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this
fiction into the real world. This has happened on occasion,
unfortunately.


Sharks.


Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I
don't care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At one
point, he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way. This
changed a few years ago, so something must have changed dramatically in
his life... for the worse I'm sure.


He does add value besides the entertainment. I value his opinions on just
about anything. I don't always agree. He can save someone a lot of money
and headache. I'm following his advice on cameras and buying a Nikon. He
can be very helpful.


In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change,
and I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the
people are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better.
Clearly, some people either can't or won't change. The former have mental
problems and need help. There are a couple of people like that... no need
to name names. The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a lot better.
:-)


You did change for the better by practicing amazing restraint. Just don't
show you get irritated and they will leave you alone. You have the
potential to some excellent trolling if you desire. You could even be
trolling now by pretending they get to you, who knows?

How did this weekend go? Did you see the Blue Angels?






katy October 10th 06 01:57 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Gilligan wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Ah, but I've plonked him, so all I see are the replies to his crapola. I
don't care what he calls me. Never have, never will. Why do you think
otherwise? Bob is a pathetic guy, who is desperate for attention and
deserving of our sympathy. Since you feel the need to respond to him,
you're one who's feeding his psychosis. You might want to rethink it.
I think he is entertaining. Sometimes a bit over the top, sometimes
cruel. I don't respond to him all the time. I have a good respect for his
trolling ability, insight into psychology and the guy is no dummy. He is
also very resourceful and works diligently for things he wants.


Pool of sharks?? Now that's funny. This is Usenet. I couldn't care less
what goes on here. I only care about things when they go beyond this
fiction into the real world. This has happened on occasion,
unfortunately.
Sharks.

Bob isn't going away, even though I (certainly) mostly ignore him. I
don't care either way, actually. He's been here a long, long time. At
one point, he actually contributed in an interesting and useful way.
This changed a few years ago, so something must have changed
dramatically in his life... for the worse I'm sure.
He does add value besides the entertainment. I value his opinions on just
about anything. I don't always agree. He can save someone a lot of money
and headache. I'm following his advice on cameras and buying a Nikon. He
can be very helpful.

In the past, I certainly did my bit of name-calling, etc. People change,
and I decided quite a while ago not to engage in that, since mostly the
people are not worth the candle. I hope I've changed for the better.
Clearly, some people either can't or won't change. The former have
mental problems and need help. There are a couple of people like that...
no need to name names. The latter are just stuborn, and I like them a
lot better. :-)

You did change for the better by practicing amazing restraint. Just don't
show you get irritated and they will leave you alone. You have the
potential to some excellent trolling if you desire. You could even be
trolling now by pretending they get to you, who knows?

How did this weekend go? Did you see the Blue Angels?



I saw white angels this weekend....


Sure they weren't albino flying monkeys?


No...when U ciiked one it tasted like chicken....

Capt. Rob October 10th 06 02:13 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 

Go ahead; I've got a good grip on my chair. Firer Away with another
dumb
rebuttal. I'm ready:^)


The 35s5 sails were said to be in great shape....but here's what I
found during the full survey. The mylar main was badly stained with
mildew. An effort was made to wash it...a no-no, and it suffered even
more. The owner said I'd get a season out of it and he was right. The
110% was in the same kind of shape, more ugly than worn, but now has
some delamination. The 155 is in good shape, but FAR too much sail for
the boat. I'll probably sell it off at some point. The chute is
practically new. The heavier storm sail is unused. So in short it was a
mixed bag. I paid less for the boat after the sails were surveyed.
I've bought very nice sails to replace these and I'm excited to get
them up!

I've e-mailed you the deal I got....


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. JG October 10th 06 02:55 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
It's hard to disagree with this...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Thom Stewart wrote:
Nutsy,

I read all your stupid BS along with your purchase. It seems to me, I
remember you boasting about the wonderful condition of the sails on the
"Benny" at the time of purchase. Also you posts of all the boats on your
end of the 'Sound' that you 'Cleaned their Clock'

Tell us Nutsy, Why in the first season of sailing are you buying new
sais?

???Do believed you caught yourself in your own Lies once again. Still
in top form for slipping on your own S--T!

Go ahead; I've got a good grip on my chair. Firer Away with another dumb
rebuttal. I'm ready:^)

TS or better known as Beached Bum

Ya know...to be culpable for lying you have to make a conscious decision
to lie...seeing that BS has no conscience to be conscious of, he cannot
lie.




Ringmaster October 11th 06 01:55 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
The 155 is in good shape, but FAR too much sail for
the boat..

Boy that must be one stiff boat.

35s5 too tippy for a #1. ROFLOL.................


Capt. Rob October 11th 06 06:19 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 


Boy that must be one stiff boat.

35s5 too tippy for a #1.





It's a fractional rig, dummy! I'm trying to think of how many times my
J29 and J30 sailing friends with fractional rigs fly their big
headsails....almost never. Nor does Mark P. who owns Doyle sails here
along with a C&C 41. He agrees that a 110 is fine most of the time on
his CF fractional.
A 155 on a fractional rig, Sloco? How often is THAT needed?! Where do
you sail...in a CAVE????

BWAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY


Ringmaster October 12th 06 03:33 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Boob, who are you trying to kid. "People with frac rigs on LIS don't
use their #1s" What are they a bunch of pussys?

35s5 toooooooooo tender for a #1


Capt. Rob October 12th 06 08:36 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Boob, who are you trying to kid.




Not you! You think people with fractional rigs are flying 155%'s all
the time!!!!
We rarely used the 155 on the C&C 32! Oh, how about the 1990 Ericson 34
I sail on...he's flying a 135% and needs to furl that down as well. I
guess these are all too tender for 155's, right?
You sure KNOW boats, Sloco!!!!


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 12th 06 09:09 PM

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Dave wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 12:36:06 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

We rarely used the 155 on the C&C 32!


But what do people who know how to sail do?



Well, let's see.....the J29 owner rarely flies his big genny, the new
C&C 32 owner is using a 135%....even my friend's J30 typically only
needs a 110%.
Dave, how often do you need a 155%??? We sail just fine with a 110%
(and a rather tired sail at that) in everything over 6-8 knots of wind.
Most mastheads around here have a RF 135-145% type sail and it's quite
common to see them out reefed down or with no main up. Oh, and
according to Mark at Doyle, he flew a 110 on his Beneteau 36.7 most of
the time.

You guys simply don't know crap and this thread is really proving it!!!

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 12th 06 09:56 PM

NEW Sails!!!
 

Dave wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 13:09:16 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Dave, how often do you need a 155%??? We sail just fine with a 110%
(and a rather tired sail at that) in everything over 6-8 knots of wind.


I carry a 155, a 135, a 100 and a storm jib. This summer, I'd say I got
about equal use of the 155 and the 100, and used the 135 only a couple of
times.



So you either had pretty light days or some good air. Not much in the
middle? I think most of the days we sailed we had between 8 and 16
knots. Do you think a fractional rig boat with a SA of over 600 sq.
feet and disp. of under 12000 lbs needs a 155% often? I just want YOUR
opinion because no one else I know with lighter boats and fractional
rigs needs them much. In fact, the J29 here Excite flys a small
headsail almost all of the time and he has a custom ballast boat. The
go-to sail on a J30 here (and we know three) is a 110%.
See my other post regarding the change to my headsail spec.


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 13th 06 02:12 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 
Nutsy,

A Question; You have a Self Furler on your Head Stay, Why are you
cutting a #1? Why aren't you just rolling it up?

It sounds like your "2nd Hand head sail" isn't going to be able to take
a partial reef? Is that the case? Will you be able to roll it to a 100%
if you can't cut it?

I guess I'm asking; If you furl it, will it lose its driving force and
just be a Heeling Producer?

I don't understand the mentality of cutting down a head sail on a Self
Furler?

Please explain?


Capt. Rob October 13th 06 02:44 AM

NEW Sails!!!
 

I guess I'm asking; If you furl it, will it lose its driving force and
just be a Heeling Producer?



All good questions, Thom. I feel that sails perform best when they are
not furled, with a sharp leading edge and proper shape. 125% combined
with our big main is a lot of sail area and as I've said, we found the
110% more than enough most of the time. The sail will also last longer
with loads distributed across the whole grid, rather than a section of
it when the sail is partially rolled up. Now add to that the fact that
these hi tech sails will power up the boat even more and I happy to be
a bit conservative by cutting the genoa a bit. Sure it will furl,
pretty well I bet. Remember that the 35s5 is all about her mainsail. I
sailed all the way to oyster bay on a close reach with only the main,
and well to weather at times. No jib required with 15 knots+ blowing.
Also keep this in perspective: I don't race and I do a lot of easy
daysailing and overnighters. I won't demand a lot from these sails 95%
of the time, certainly not what they were built for. On the other hand
they will be fun when I do push the boat and are a great deal for the
money. It's a win/win all around.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron October 13th 06 04:21 AM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Now add to that the fact that these hi tech sails will power up the boat
even more


You cannot seriously believe that these sails will boast horsepower... do
you???

CM-



Capt. Rob October 13th 06 10:43 AM

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You cannot seriously believe that these sails will boast horsepower...
do
you???


You cannot seriously believe that these hi tech sails won't improve
windward performance, trim, acceleration on all points and reduce
weight aloft...do you?


RB
35s5
NY


Martin Baxter October 13th 06 01:01 PM

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Dave wrote:

On 12 Oct 2006 13:56:17 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Do you think a fractional rig boat with a SA of over 600 sq.
feet and disp. of under 12000 lbs needs a 155% often? I just want YOUR
opinion because no one else I know with lighter boats and fractional
rigs needs them much.


Hell, what do I know about it. I don't have either a fractional rig or a
particularly light boat.


You've a real boat, a Canadian boat, a boat with enough glass and resin
to make two Bennies of the same length!

Cheers
Marty

Capt. Rob October 13th 06 01:18 PM

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You've a real boat, a Canadian boat, a boat with enough glass and resin

to make two Bennies of the same length!



Real boat = too much glass and resin and poor technology?
Oh.
I prefer a boat that doesn't need a 155% genoa on the LIS 50% of the
time.

RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 13th 06 07:03 PM

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Nutsy,

Or should we address you as; "2nd Hand Rose?"

Are you putting ultra violet protection on the the Leech of your 2nd
handed Butchered Head Sail?

Seems like your wonderful Deck Level Furler is just "Junk" now. Worth
nothing on e-bay because of the Track attached.

Seems like a very poor mental error on your part. I want to go on
recorded of not agreeing with any thing you've done with your Head
Sail. Starting with the purchase of a racing jib for a cruising knock
about boat, The need to go to the pointy End of the boat to hank on a
head sail and remove it from a useless Self Furling system.

I'm really not sure that you are that stupid. Is this just another of
your; "Lying trolls?"


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Thom Stewart October 13th 06 07:29 PM

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Nutsy wrote;
I prefer a boat that doesn't need a 155% genoa on the LIS 50% of the
time.

I thought that is why you have a 155% on a Roll-up Furler?


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Capt. Rob October 14th 06 01:52 AM

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Seems like your wonderful Deck Level Furler is just "Junk" now. Worth
nothing on e-bay because of the Track attached.


Seems like a very poor mental error on your part. I want to go on
recorded of not agreeing with any thing you've done with your Head
Sail. Starting with the purchase of a racing jib for a cruising knock
about boat,


Thom, I paid nothing for the Pentax Mylar. I thought I e-mailed you and
gave you the facts. I traded a sail from my closet, a 1989 Kevlar Lt.
#1 from a J35. To be fare, it's in like new shape and worth more than
what I'm getting, but I couldn't use it or recut it and I got less that
400 bucks for the last one I sold.
The pentax mylar has only been cut down 8% and a new cover added. I've
been promised that it's 8-9 condition or my money back. Same for the
main and that sail, already delivered, is hard to rate much below a 10
for condition.
The Genoa was cut high to make it easier for a small crew to handle and
for singlehanding. The deck sweeper is a pain and I don't race. On top
of that the loft threw in new battens for the main and is including a
lazy jack system for free. I can't see the downside of a basically free
hi tech sail, cut for easier handling that I will use for bopping
around the bay. True, we're not taking advantage of the below deck
furler, but so what? I'm not taking advantage of all the 35s5's
potential or any boat for that matter. Who does? Perhaps you can
enlighten me?

RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 14th 06 05:09 AM

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Nutsy,

Years ago, when I lived in NY and Herb Hild was still alive and sailing
his Tartan, he had a saying that has stuck with me. He said: " Anything
that keep me, my family and my friends off the pointy end of the Boat is
a GOOD THING!"

Nutsy, you have turned that completely around by going to a Hanked on
head sail!

You've made Neal happy and me disgusted. You've gone against a
cruiser's way. Sorry, I disagree with you (For what ever that means
coming from a Beached Bum)


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Capt. Rob October 14th 06 01:55 PM

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Nutsy, you have turned that completely around by going to a Hanked on
head sail!



Thom, I think you're confused. The Pentax Mylar has a UV cover and was
built to be furled and left up. Perhaps if I was going away for a week
or more, I'd roll and stow, but otherwise it's no different than my
current Mylar 110% except that it's in great shape and will be easier
to fly.


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart October 14th 06 05:23 PM

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Sorry Nutsy,

I asked about Ultra Lite protection and didn't get an answer or at least
I don't remember an affirmative answer.

Is you have it set-up for Self Furling and storage on the Head Stay;
GOOD ON YOU!! I stand corrected. Carry on.


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Lady Pilot October 15th 06 06:11 PM

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"Gilligan" wrote:

The only reason his trolls work is because you let him get to you. If you
simply agree with whatever he says, you disarm him. Do you see anyone
calling me gay?


You are more gay than Liberace! :-)

No, because if they did I would offer them a big wet smootchie and a good
spanking with a big rubber paddle.


Ummm, promises, promises!

They run when they hear that. I can't be trolled about my boat because I
don't have one. No one will ridicule my 350lb wife who has incurable acne
on her back and hairy nipples (five of them!).


You have Ozzy beat, his wife only has 3 nipples!

This place is like a pool of sharks.


Sharks in a barrel...

LP



Scotty October 17th 06 01:04 AM

HEY Gilly ...
 
"Gilligan" wrote in
message . ..


Do you see anyone
calling me gay? No, because if they did I would offer them

a big wet
smootchie and a good spanking with a big rubber paddle.



you're gay.

Scotty
1-215-754-8390




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