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Gilligan wrote: crap snipped
"President Bush came to office believing that Clinton's policy amounted to appeasement. Force and strength were the way to deal with North Korea, not a mix of force, diplomacy and aide. And with that premise, President Bush went about scuttling the 1994 agreement, using evidence that the North Koreans were pursuing uranium enrichment (another path to the bomb) as the final straw. Remember the guiding policy of the early Bush years: Clinton did it=Bad, Bush=Not whatever Clinton did. All diplomatic niceties aside, President Bush's idea was that the North Koreans would respond better to threats than Clinton's mix of carrots and sticks. Then in the winter of 2002-3, as the US was preparing to invade Iraq, the North called Bush's bluff. And the president folded. Abjectly, utterly, even hilariously if the consequences weren't so grave and vast. Threats are a potent force if you're willing to follow through on them. But he wasn't. The plutonium production plant, which had been shuttered since 1994, got unshuttered. And the bomb that exploded tonight was, if I understand this correctly, almost certainly the product of that plutonium uncorked almost four years ago. So the President talked a good game, the North Koreans called his bluff and he folded. And since then, for all intents and purposes, and all the atmospherics to the contrary, he and his administration have done essentially nothing. " http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010275.php |
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Yeah, and Bushco's reaction... it was a bad, bad thing. Wow. I guess no
invasion is planned. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. http://tinyurl.com/g7coe Stopping terrorism begins at home. |
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http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5368
Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? Isn't this negligence? 8 years of Clinton's softness on terror was enough. |
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Huh? I believe the president is a republican. He's the one claiming he won't
tolerate a nukyaler North Korea. At least Clinton tried to deal with it. Bushco has been awol. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=5368 Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? Isn't this negligence? 8 years of Clinton's softness on terror was enough. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... . At least Clinton tried to deal with it. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/221552.shtml His own Secretary of State may give him an "A" for effort, but look at what really happened. Clinton did nothing about all those US Embassies that were toppled, nothing about the first WTC attack, nothing about the Cole. Historically, the Democrats have really gotten us into big messes. VietNam is just one example. I don't think America should take the risk of voting for any Democrat. |
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Gilligan wrote:
Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? I don't know. Why is the Republican's priorities all about blaming everything on Clinton? You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. //Walt |
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"Walt" wrote in message ... You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/232727.shtml |
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Gilligan wrote:
"Walt" wrote You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. http://www.newsmax.com/... Are you capable of speaking for yourself, or are you limited to passing out links to propaganda sites? |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 12:58:16 -0600, Gilligan wrote:
Clinton did nothing about all those US Embassies that were toppled, nothing about the first WTC attack, nothing about the Cole. The US Embassies? This article was written the day after Clinton retaliated. Notice any familiar names? http://www.cnn.com/US/9808/20/us.strikes.02/ And, the Republican response to this retaliation? Remember accusations of "wag the dog"? Uh, those involved with the first WTC attack are now in jail. "In two separate jury trials in Manhattan federal court, half a dozen men were later convicted of direct roles in the bombing. Mamed Salameh, Ahmad Ajaj, Mahmud Abouhalima and Nidal Ayyad were found guilty in March 1994. In November 1997, Ramzi Yousef was convicted of masterminding the plot, and Eyad Ismoil was convicted for driving the rented Ryder truck into the garage. Each man was sentenced to 240 years in prison, or one year for every year of expected life they deprived their victims." Oh, and the USS Cole? That happened on Oct. 12, 2000, the month before GWB was elected. Rather than be concerned with the last two months of Clinton's term, a fairer question would be what did GWB do about in the year he had before 9/11? |
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Give me a break. Try to actually cite facts. At least Clinton went after Bin
Laden. Bush didn't do anything until he had no choice after 9/11. Now, even Afganistan is spiraling out of control. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... . At least Clinton tried to deal with it. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/221552.shtml His own Secretary of State may give him an "A" for effort, but look at what really happened. Clinton did nothing about all those US Embassies that were toppled, nothing about the first WTC attack, nothing about the Cole. Historically, the Democrats have really gotten us into big messes. VietNam is just one example. I don't think America should take the risk of voting for any Democrat. |
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You're joking. Those right-wingnuts are not interested in accepting
responcibility. The blame game is all they have. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Gilligan wrote: Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? I don't know. Why is the Republican's priorities all about blaming everything on Clinton? You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. //Walt |
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"Walt" wrote in message ... Are you capable of speaking for yourself, or are you limited to passing out links to propaganda sites? Of course I can speak for myself. I believe Bush is a bad President. He has no real principles and clings to religion out of emptiness. Invading Iraq was a mistake. Spending has gone through the roof under his watch. He caters to poltical interest with handouts. The only thing good he has done are the tax cuts and balancing the Supreme Court. I believe he gives big business preferential treatment over small businesses and individuals. He is a threat to individual liberties and freedom everywhere. I have never and will not ever vote for the clown. He is better than any Democrat. The propaganda links are for entertainment purposes only. Remember when I presented both sides of the global warming issue and it totally confused you? Well, now I'm critical of that demon Clinton and his satanic administration and you think I'm a Republican. Then I go and criticize Bush and now I bet you think I'm a Democrat. The world is not black and white. This election is a close one. With the world on the brink of total annihilation I may actually hold my nose and pull the Republican levers down the board. This is no time for clowning around, we cannot risk handing the reins to the Democrats. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Give me a break. Try to actually cite facts. At least Clinton went after Bin Laden. Bush didn't do anything until he had no choice after 9/11. Now, even Afganistan is spiraling out of control. http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/7...ovak02.article Haiti spiraled out of control for Clinton. |
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Well, in that case, he's one up on Bush. Afganistan and Iraq are out of
control and many lives have been lost as a result. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Give me a break. Try to actually cite facts. At least Clinton went after Bin Laden. Bush didn't do anything until he had no choice after 9/11. Now, even Afganistan is spiraling out of control. http://www.suntimes.com/news/novak/7...ovak02.article Haiti spiraled out of control for Clinton. |
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Yeah, as opposed to leaving the reins in the hands of incompetents... got
it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Walt" wrote in message ... Are you capable of speaking for yourself, or are you limited to passing out links to propaganda sites? Of course I can speak for myself. I believe Bush is a bad President. He has no real principles and clings to religion out of emptiness. Invading Iraq was a mistake. Spending has gone through the roof under his watch. He caters to poltical interest with handouts. The only thing good he has done are the tax cuts and balancing the Supreme Court. I believe he gives big business preferential treatment over small businesses and individuals. He is a threat to individual liberties and freedom everywhere. I have never and will not ever vote for the clown. He is better than any Democrat. The propaganda links are for entertainment purposes only. Remember when I presented both sides of the global warming issue and it totally confused you? Well, now I'm critical of that demon Clinton and his satanic administration and you think I'm a Republican. Then I go and criticize Bush and now I bet you think I'm a Democrat. The world is not black and white. This election is a close one. With the world on the brink of total annihilation I may actually hold my nose and pull the Republican levers down the board. This is no time for clowning around, we cannot risk handing the reins to the Democrats. |
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Capt. JG wrote: You're joking. Those right-wingnuts are not interested in accepting responcibility. The blame game is all they have. I never thought Clinton was a right wing nutcase. hmmmmmmmmm Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Gilligan wrote: Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? I don't know. Why is the Republican's priorities all about blaming everything on Clinton? You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. //Walt |
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I believe Clinton has accepted responsibility for his mistakes, or at least
a few of them. Bushco thinks he's perfect, apparently. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: You're joking. Those right-wingnuts are not interested in accepting responcibility. The blame game is all they have. I never thought Clinton was a right wing nutcase. hmmmmmmmmm Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Walt" wrote in message ... Gilligan wrote: Why are the Democrat's priorities on a homosexual former Congressman (who most likely did not violate ANY law) rather than a crazed madman who just blew off a nuke and claims he'll use them on the US? I don't know. Why is the Republican's priorities all about blaming everything on Clinton? You guys might actually want to take responsibility for *something* at some point, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse for your collosal failures. //Walt |
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If Clinton did good by simply trying, shouldn't Bush get credit for trying
in Iraq? |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, as opposed to leaving the reins in the hands of incompetents... got it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Walt" wrote in message ... Are you capable of speaking for yourself, or are you limited to passing out links to propaganda sites? Of course I can speak for myself. I believe Bush is a bad President. He has no real principles and clings to religion out of emptiness. Invading Iraq was a mistake. Spending has gone through the roof under his watch. He caters to poltical interest with handouts. The only thing good he has done are the tax cuts and balancing the Supreme Court. I believe he gives big business preferential treatment over small businesses and individuals. He is a threat to individual liberties and freedom everywhere. I have never and will not ever vote for the clown. He is better than any Democrat. The propaganda links are for entertainment purposes only. Remember when I presented both sides of the global warming issue and it totally confused you? Well, now I'm critical of that demon Clinton and his satanic administration and you think I'm a Republican. Then I go and criticize Bush and now I bet you think I'm a Democrat. The world is not black and white. This election is a close one. With the world on the brink of total annihilation I may actually hold my nose and pull the Republican levers down the board. This is no time for clowning around, we cannot risk handing the reins to the Democrats. Will you forgive me for voting Republican if I wear a clown suit while doing it? |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I believe Clinton has accepted responsibility for his mistakes, or at least a few of them. That's because he was caught with incontravertable evidence. |
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Gilligan wrote:
This election is a close one. With the world on the brink of total annihilation I may actually hold my nose and pull the Republican levers down the board. This is no time for clowning around, we cannot risk handing the reins to the Democrats. That's right, don't forget that a Democratic President was the last to actually ask Congress to declare war! Not only that, only a Democratic President has ever actually used a nuclear weapon on a foreign country! DSK |
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No because he mislead us into thinking it was a war of necessity rather than
a war of choice. Clinton didn't lie about the reasons for the military action. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. If Clinton did good by simply trying, shouldn't Bush get credit for trying in Iraq? |
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Yes. Absolutely. I would like picture verification of course... trust, but
verify. Someone must have said that... :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, as opposed to leaving the reins in the hands of incompetents... got it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Walt" wrote in message ... Are you capable of speaking for yourself, or are you limited to passing out links to propaganda sites? Of course I can speak for myself. I believe Bush is a bad President. He has no real principles and clings to religion out of emptiness. Invading Iraq was a mistake. Spending has gone through the roof under his watch. He caters to poltical interest with handouts. The only thing good he has done are the tax cuts and balancing the Supreme Court. I believe he gives big business preferential treatment over small businesses and individuals. He is a threat to individual liberties and freedom everywhere. I have never and will not ever vote for the clown. He is better than any Democrat. The propaganda links are for entertainment purposes only. Remember when I presented both sides of the global warming issue and it totally confused you? Well, now I'm critical of that demon Clinton and his satanic administration and you think I'm a Republican. Then I go and criticize Bush and now I bet you think I'm a Democrat. The world is not black and white. This election is a close one. With the world on the brink of total annihilation I may actually hold my nose and pull the Republican levers down the board. This is no time for clowning around, we cannot risk handing the reins to the Democrats. Will you forgive me for voting Republican if I wear a clown suit while doing it? |
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"DSK" wrote in message .. . That's right, don't forget that a Democratic President was the last to actually ask Congress to declare war! Not only that, only a Democratic President has ever actually used a nuclear weapon on a foreign country! DSK Now you did it! How can I argue with that? |
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